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India’s manned space mission, not in near future … or never?

For the red part...

where did I stated anything contrary??I stated that ISRO exclusively stated that "It is not in their priority in near future".

for blue part,

I'm not comparing achievements of different space research organizations.but some trolls who hasn't achieved anything sometimes try to act smart.my reply was against them.

ISRO is going to focus on Interplanetary Missions as well as domestic and international satellite market.These are the major areas and ISRO is doing extremely well in these sector.
First, the part where you said it's more prestigious and will be handled by private players.

Second, your entire last paragraph was comparing. But I get your point.

LMAO another butt hurt Chinese which indian member said ISRO is ahead of CNSA ,its insecure Chinese like OP who keep getting butt hurt on other countries achievement & open thread for flame bait & trolling
YOU keep saying butt hurt this, butt hurt that, and now you are turning this on me. You specifically said we will get butt hurt over this and that, when this and that isn't much of anything.

As to the first part. read this page, see if you can't find any.

Who Will Win Asia's Fifth-Generation Fighter Race? | Page 6
 
You're right CZ-5 is nothing. Never mind your ULV is only 60 percent the size of our CZ-5, which is already in launch center, and will be launched next year.

I can't even find a launch date for ULV. Your GSV is not even up to our current standards. Why would we be butt hurt.

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So because India hasn't done Manned missions, it's not important.

Manned missions and inter planetary missions are equally impressive. There's a reason moon landings are still the milestone to reach for all.

Obviously China is behind on Mars, but with recovering moon rocks, and space stations on the table, as well as moon landings, we have to give somethings up.

Mars rover by 2020. So 2 years after India, if indeed it's by 2018 and includes a rover. I don't have too much info on that after a quick search.
That's what we are saying all the while...Two different countries...Two different space program...Two different budgets...Two different priorities!!!
That reply is for the troll!!
We never said we are ahead of Chinese....but we are close!!
It's your country man started this stupid troll thread!!
 
That's what we are saying all the while...Two different countries...Two different space program...Two different budgets...Two different priorities!!!
That reply is for the troll!!
We never said we are ahead of Chinese....but we are close!!
It's your country man started this stupid troll thread!!

Since you can say it's for trolls, then so is this thread, I'm know for a fact there's a few trolls who start these threads in Chinese section, and the other comments in other threads, you can't have missed.

No reason to troll just because someone else is.
 
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This Time I'm not quoting Mars Mission kid.. Let see how your manned space mission fared.?
China's Spaceship Is Mainly Russian by Richard Ingham
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Paris (AFP) November 23, 1999 - Western experts are unimpressed by China's claims to have developed by itself the unmanned spaceship that took its maiden flight last weekend, saying the craft was born from a three-decade-old design bought from impoverished Russia.
Beijing trumpeted the 21-hour unmanned flight made by the Shenzhou ("Divine Vessel") spacecraft, aimed at making China the third country after the former Soviet Union and the United States to put a man in orbit.
An undated image from Chinese television footage shows a part of the experimental spacecraft at the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center in northwest China's Gansu Province. The space craft, named 'Shenzhou' by President Jiang Zemin, is part of China's manned space flight program and has completed a short mission in space touching down in Inner Mongolia 21 November 1999. CCTV/AFP Photo
The vehicle was "completely indigenous" and the mission "another milestone in China's astronautical history," the state-controlled media declared.
But analysts appraising official pictures of the mission say the ship seemed little more than a slightly modified version of the old Soviet workhorse of space, the Soyuz.
American experts in particular are convinced that China, seeking a technological short cut, simply handed over a fistful of dollars to Moscow, whose experience in manned missions stretches back to 1961.
"It is likely that the Russians provided complete Soyuz capsules, with Russian parachute, reaction control and soft landing systems," writes Mark Wade on the specialist website Encyclopaedia Astronautica.
"These were then outfitted with Chinese avionics and instruments. The landing systems are among the most difficult to develop and the Chinese would have saved much time and money by just adopting the Russian solution."
The Shenzhou is "a Soyuz to a very considerable extent. It's off the shelf, as it were," David Baker, editor of the British specialist publication Jane's Space Directory told AFP.
The capsule itself, as well as the launch escape system -- a rocket that wrenches the capsule free from the launcher and blasts it to safety if danger threatens during liftoff -- are "a total Soyuz lookalike," Baker said.
The collapse of the Soviet Union in December 1991 removed ideological barriers and provided a financial spur for Moscow or its "disenfranchised engineers" to sell coveted technology or skills to a former rival, he said.
The following year, the ground was laid for close cooperation when China's State Council directed that the country place a man in space by October 1999, in time for the 50th anniversary of the Communist revolution.
The US House of Representatives, in the so-called Cox Report earlier this year on the Chinese drive for technological prowess, said China purchased a number of Soyuz capsules during Russian President Boris Yeltsin's visit to Beijing in April 1996.
Phillip Clark, a British writer who specialises in Chinese space effort, offers a dissenting view, saying China had only acquired various pieces of equipment -- including a docking system, life-support system and pressure suit -- which it had copied, adapted or improved so that it would not have to "reinvent the wheel."
In addition, two of its astronauts had gone to Russia's Star City for space training, he said.
He added there appeared to be important differences between Shenzhou and Soyuz.
He estimated Shenzhou could weigh 8.5 tonnes, making it 1.5 tonnes heavier than the Soyuz, appeared to be built for up to four, rather than three astronauts, and the pictures showed it to be equipped with two sets of solar panels, rather than Soyuz' one, which could indicate a higher power requirement.
Experts struggled to understand why China should throw its resources into manned missions, a hugely costly business whose scientific or military benefits can be emulated by satellites, retrievable capsules or missiles.
"There are no sensible or logical reasons why China should need human space flight. It already has a very successful and innovative space programme," Baker said, pointing to the highly-regarded (and genuinely home-grown) Long March launcher.
Like nuclear weapons, a man in space is a "national virility symbol... that great big icon in the sky that nations find irresistible," he said.
Apart from prestige, the Shenzhou could be used to build a rival to the International Space Station (ISS) planned by western powers, Russia and Japan, some analysts said.
Alternatively, China could use the Shenzhou, if it is successful, as a bargaining counter to join the ISS as "an equal partner," a French space expert said.

Posting a bogus and biased old article with no facts to back is only the pathetic way to mask your Indian space inferiority compare to Chinese one.

Let's see some professional documentary done by NASA who has more facts and knowledge of Chinese space program. At least , they soundly acknowledge China real indigenous effect in building a credible space manned program.

 
First, the part where you said it's more prestigious and will be handled by private players.

Second, your entire last paragraph was comparing. But I get your point.


YOU keep saying butt hurt this, butt hurt that, and now you are turning this on me. You specifically said we will get butt hurt over this and that, when this and that isn't much of anything.

As to the first part. read this page, see if you can't find any.

Who Will Win Asia's Fifth-Generation Fighter Race? | Page 6
I was defending Chinese in that thread where few Indian members were discouraging your achievement ,I must say for every two stupid indian members in this forum I can find one sane indian member but I yet to find a sane chinese member you to some extent & Chinese bamboo is exception though
 
That's what we are saying all the while...Two different countries...Two different space program...Two different budgets...Two different priorities!!!
That reply is for the troll!!
We never said we are ahead of Chinese....but we are close!!
It's your country man started this stupid troll thread!!


This article is from Today's Indian news paper, how is this a "stupid troll thread"?
 
I was defending Chinese in that thread where few Indian members were discouraging your achievement ,I must say for every two stupid indian members in this forum I can find one sane indian member but I yet to find a sane chinese member you to some extent & Chinese bamboo is exception though
I must say, you joined on Wednesday, this is only your second day? Or third depending on time zone. That was a fast conversion though. lol

It usually takes a little longer for the back and forth to take place. Took me a couple of month.

As to the other thing, there's more Indian members on this board, and both only see the bad of each other due to the thread we would frequent.
 
Since you can say it's for trolls, then so is this thread, I'm know for a fact there's a few trolls who start these threads in Chinese section, and the other comments in other threads, you can't have missed.

No reason to troll just because someone else is.
This article is from Today's Indian news paper, how is this a "stupid troll thread"?
banglore mirror?....lol
You dug this up to troll...lol
 
banglore mirror?....lol
You dug this up to troll...lol

Just because it is not to your liking, it doesn't mean it is a troll. Do you have anything to contribute to counter the article itself? If you do, please present it, but if you don't, remaining quiet is better than accusing other being troll, which makes yourself a troll.
 
Just because it is not to your liking, it doesn't mean it is a troll. Do you have anything to contribute to counter the article itself? If you do, please present it, but if you don't, remaining quiet is better than accusing other being troll, which makes yourself a troll.
Lol I could say the same thing to you!! Look at your posts in this thread!!
 
Lol I could say the same thing to you!! Look at your posts in this thread!!

I did not resort to personal attack, and I merely use Indian materials to show you the gap between ISRO promise and the reality. If you can't take it, blame on your media and ISRO.
 
I did not resort to personal attack, and I merely use Indian materials to show you the gap between ISRO promise and the reality. If you can't take it, blame on your media and ISRO.
Who did?
 
Post #6. Help yourself.

What exactly are you trying to convey here, chinaman? It seems you're damning us if we hadn't gone to space and now damning us that we finally did. We really shouldn't convern ourselves with what others say. Our space program started from literally nothing, and was often seen as a mockery. A true definition of the space underdogs, we have reached such heights at what seems like a short amount of time, and with great success too. Is that what bothers, you? That we haven't conducted a manned space flight mission yet? That you feel the need along with your pakistani boot lickers to redicule us for that?
 

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