Indian Special Forces

[killer elite]

bro, could you make a video of marcos from here?

 

[Abingdonboy]

 

[Unknowncommando]

Marco

 

[Mike_Brando]

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Buddy,can you identify the pistol which is being carried by the Marcos operator in this pic??I mean,i am damn sure that it's not a Glock series because of the presence of hammer,again it's not a Browning Hi Power because of the pistol grip!!

 

[Unknowncommando]

Buddy,can you identify the pistol which is being carried by the Marcos operator in this pic??I mean,i am damn sure that it's not a Glock series because of the presence of hammer,again it's not a Browning Hi Power because of the pistol grip!!

Dude its browning hi power pistol. Coz pistol grip is big. Glock definitely not. I thought sig p225 226 or 227 but their grip lenght in shorter than the browning. And shape of sig grip is more round than browning. So its an browning pistol. Coz i can see the lock knob with hole there. Only browning among these have that.

 

[Abingdonboy]

Interestingly, the SPG used an armoured Range Rover to transport the PM during his visit in Varanasi. Usually, no matter where the PM is in India the SPG will use the BMW 7 Series but in some cases they require an SUV because of the quality of the roads and such and have been using their own fleet of armoured Tata Safaris for this purpose when the PM visits places like Varanasi, Chattisgarh etc but this was the first time I have seen them use a Range Rover for the PM's fleet. I'm not sure if this is a permenant change and now they will use the Range Rover instead of the Safari when there is a need for a SUV.

Also note, the Range Rover (along with all SPG support vehicles in the PM's motorcade such as the Safaris for their transport and ECM vehicle) is on Delhi plates so 100% belongs to the SPG.


@Aminroop @Star Wars @hinduguy @anant_s @Koovie

 

[Levina]

Interestingly, the SPG used an armoured Range Rover to transport the PM during his visit in Varanasi. Usually, no matter where the PM is in India the SPG will use the BMW 7 Series but in some cases they require an SUV because of the quality of the roads and such and have been using their own fleet of armoured Tata Safaris for this purpose when the PM visits places like Varanasi, Chattisgarh etc but this was the first time I have seen them use a Range Rover for the PM's fleet. I'm not sure if this is a permenant change and now they will use the Range Rover instead of the Safari when there is a need for a SUV.

Also note, the Range Rover (along with all SPG support vehicles in the PM's motorcade such as the Safaris for their transport and ECM vehicle) is on Delhi plates so 100% belongs to the SPG.


@Aminroop @Star Wars @hinduguy @anant_s @Koovie

Ah!
Finally!!!
All this while I was wondering that why dont TATAs replace their "steel ka Dabba- tata safari" with their luxury 4WD, Range Rover, in our PM's motorcade ???
Btw did this change over happen before or after Modi's visit to Land Rover plant???
Modi to visit Jaguar Land Rover plant in Britain - Times of India

 

[Abingdonboy]

Ah!
Finally!!!
All this while I was wondering that why dont TATAs replace their "steel ka Dabba- tata safari" with their luxury 4WD, Range Rover, in our PM's motorcade ???
Btw did this change over happen before or after Modi's visit to Land Rover plant???
Modi to visit Jaguar Land Rover plant in Britain - Times of India

A few answers @Aminroop

1) The SPG are the customer and thus TATA have no say in what they use to transport the PM. The Range Rover option has been open all this time, TATA would have loved the chance to sell it to them. So it is the SPG that has taken this decsion for their specific compulsions.
2) I don't think the Modi visit to JLR's plant in Solihal had anything to do with this move as the model the SPG are using is the (2010-2012) L322 not the current generation L405 so this is not PR coup by Range Rover, this was a decsion made by the SPG and they sourced their own solution.
3) The 7 series will remain the PM's main form of transports with the X5s as escort vehicles and the TATA Safari will remain in use by the SPG for support roles.

 

[Levina]

1) The SPG are the customer and thus TATA have no say in what they use to transport the PM. The Range Rover option has been open all this time, TATA would have loved the chance to sell it to them. So it is the SPG that has taken this decsion for their specific compulsions.

I bet they do not like luxury ...and I am not surprised- all the men in defences prefer bare minimum (in your lexicon stripped down to bones lol ).

I am sure it was the financial constraints that stopped them from buying Range Rovers. SPG, I know, would never compromise on PM's security.

2) I don't think the Modi visit to JLR's plant in Solihal had anything to do with this move as the model the SPG are using is the (2010-2012) L322 not the current generation L405 so this is not PR coup by Range Rover, this was a decsion made by the SPG and they sourced their own solution.

I had guessed it!
Modi visited the plant very recently while the picture was taken a few months back or so I think.

TATA Safari will remain in use by the SPG for support roles.

Oh?
That's bad news.

 

[Abingdonboy]

I bet they do not like luxury ...and I am not surprised- all the men in defences prefer bare minimum (in your lexicon stripped down to bones lol ).

This is true for all other forces of course but the SPG is a very different force. They are charged with the transport and protection of the Prime Minister of India and thus will not be looking at "stripped down" products.

I am sure it was the financial constraints that stopped them from buying Range Rovers. SPG, I know, would never compromise on PM's security.

Hmmm perhaps but I'm not convinced by this argument to be honest. The SPG has by far the largest budget-manpower ratio of all forces in the GoI. The SPG usually change on a needs basis, they had used the Ambassador until it became clear that the PM of India was at sufficent risk to require an upgrade (7 series). I don't think it is a coincidence that the most at risk PM in India's history has received a more secure SUV.

I had guessed it!
Modi visited the plant very recently while the picture was taken a few months back or so I think.

I'm still not so sure to be honest, the picture was taken yesterday (December 12 2015)in Varanasi and this is the first time I have seen the Range Rovers used by the SPG. I don't know why the PM visiting the JLR plant would mean the SPG then gets previous generation Range Rovers? Am I missing something?

Oh?
That's bad news.

Hmmm it's quite fine, the PM won't be transported in the Safaris, now they are support role only. The ECM (Electric Counter Measure vehicle/mobile Jammer) is still based on the Safari:

(In Varanasi yesterday- Safari ECM vehicle in front of the lead Range Rover and Safari escort vehicle for the SPG behind)


The Safari-based ECM is present in the PM's motorcade no matter where the PM is in India whereas the SPG uses Safaris for other support roles (escorts ans such) only outside of the NCR, within the NCR they use X5s for this role:

(^picture taken yesterday-December 12, 2015- at Palam Airport, Delhi).



I don't see any issue with this to be honest, the X5s are ideal for high speed travel on the smooth roads of the NCR, I'm not sure many other cities/towns in India would suit them and thus the Safaris will be retained for travel utside of the NCR only now the Range Rover has been added to transport the PM.

 

[Death In Fire]

@abingdongboy

I think since 1947 among Indian PMs Modi has the highest life risk after Indira Gandhi.

 

[Abingdonboy]

@abingdongboy

I think since 1947 among Indian PMs Modi has the highest life risk after Indira Gandhi.

This is what the security establishment (SPG, R&AW and IB) have concluded.

 

[bipi@342]

Interestingly, the SPG used an armoured Range Rover to transport the PM during his visit in Varanasi. Usually, no matter where the PM is in India the SPG will use the BMW 7 Series but in some cases they require an SUV because of the quality of the roads and such and have been using their own fleet of armoured Tata Safaris for this purpose when the PM visits places like Varanasi, Chattisgarh etc but this was the first time I have seen them use a Range Rover for the PM's fleet. I'm not sure if this is a permenant change and now they will use the Range Rover instead of the Safari when there is a need for a SUV.

Also note, the Range Rover (along with all SPG support vehicles in the PM's motorcade such as the Safaris for their transport and ECM vehicle) is on Delhi plates so 100% belongs to the SPG.


@Aminroop @Star Wars @hinduguy @anant_s @Koovie

I saw Range Rover with Sonia some time back so they have this one for quite some time.

 

[bipi@342]

 

[Abingdonboy]

I saw Range Rover with Sonia some time back so they have this one for quite some time.

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I'm aware the Gandhis use Range Rovers but from what I have heard these vehciles were paid for by themselves as they are private citizens. The PM does not share a pool of vehicles with anyone else, the fleet of vehicles used for the PM of India is earmarked for the PM of India alone so what the Gandhis have is an irrelevance.