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Indian Navy Initiates Steps to Acquire Predator B Guardian and EMALS - LOR sent to US Gov

Heron is smaller and is a MALE. Predator is a HALE, is about 5 times heavier, so more electronics.

Israel has the newer Eitan, so that could be a future option.
He is talking about IAI Eitan. Which is better than Predator, but costly.
 
Heron is smaller and is a MALE. Predator is a HALE, is about 5 times heavier, so more electronics.

Israel has the newer Eitan, so that could be a future option.
heron isnt smeller

heron isnt smeller
he can reach high of 45000 ft and they have same take of weiht and heron haqve bigger engine 1200hp peredetor b 900 hp
and you get the armed virson i didnt under stend india cenceld the heron dill?
 
heron isnt smeller


he can reach high of 45000 ft and they have same take of weiht and heron haqve bigger engine 1200hp peredetor b 900 hp
and you get the armed virson i didnt under stend india cenceld the heron dill?

Oh, okay, you were referring to Eitan. Yeah, we have ordered 10 of those, armed version. But that was the air force, not the navy.
 
i hope japan accept to develop with us ucav iaia and elbit with mitsubishi and fuji will be something great

Oh, okay, you were referring to Eitan. Yeah, we have ordered 10 of those, armed version. But that was the air force, not the navy.
eitan =heron tp

can carry mor than 1000 kg payload
 
@PARIKRAMA what are the chances of EMALS for India without signing LSA, BECA and LEMOA.
We need railguns too!

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Yes ok. Since you live near the US, can you snoop around a bit to see if you can gather some information on how to make rail guns?:lol::D
 
@PARIKRAMA what are the chances of EMALS for India without signing LSA, BECA and LEMOA.

Yes ok. Since you live near the US, can you snoop around a bit to see if you can gather some information on how to make rail guns?:lol::D

LSA and LEMOA are the same. LEMOA has escape clauses for India in case US goes to war and India wants nothing to do with that war. You missed CISMOA. But, no, none of them are required for getting the EMALS.

Anyway, the agreements are harmless. We have similar agreements as CISMOA with France and Russia, but those are written into their individual contracts while the American agreements will apply to all contracts.
 
LSA and LEMOA are the same. LEMOA has escape clauses for India in case US goes to war and India wants nothing to do with that war. You missed CISMOA. But, no, none of them are required for getting the EMALS.

Anyway, the agreements are harmless. We have similar agreements as CISMOA with France and Russia, but those are written into their individual contracts while the American agreements will apply to all contracts.
Thank you for that. But since we are getting EMALS from the US, chances are likely that India will go for a US carrier based fighter aircraft and then the BECA, LSA and the CISMOA will come into play.
I am not a Commie but still prefers India to be neutral rather then a "major non NATO strategic partner".:pleasantry:
 
Indian Navy Initiates Steps to Acquire Predator B Guardian and EMALS
- Letters of Request sent for both systems to US Government


By Gulshan Luthra Published: July 2016


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New Delhi. The Indian Navy has initiated the first steps towards acquiring the Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System (EMALS) as well as the long range surveillance drone Predator B Guardian by sending Letters of Request (LORs) to the Pentagon under government-to-government deals.

The LORs, requesting price and availability for 22 Guardians and three EMALS catapults, are now under consideration by the US Department of Defense (DOD) for clearance under the Foreign Military Sales (FMS) programme and according to sources in Washington, a positive view is likely to be taken and discussions between the two countries should begin soon. Once the process is through, the US Government (USG) will confirm by sending Letters of Acceptance (LOAs).

The Predator B Guardian is a naval version for long range surveillance over the waters while the EMALS is being considered by the Indian Navy for its second indigenous aircraft carrier, INS Vishal, due out by 2028. EMALS has been adopted by the US Navy as its next generation aircraft launch system, and again significantly, for its new generation aircraft carriers beginning with CVN 78 Gerald R Ford, due for delivery this year.

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Dr Vivek Lall, Chief Executive Global Commercial Strategic Development for the San Diego-based General Atomics which makes these two systems, declined comment but told India Strategic: “As far as General Atomics is concerned, we will be opening an office in the Indian capital to assist both the Governments as required.”

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Notably the Guardian is a high performance Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance (ISR) aircraft, and could only be sold to India after it cleared the Missile Technology Control regime (MTCR) regulations. Powered by a high performance Honeywell TPE331-10 turboprop engine, it operates from a high altitude of 50,000 feet and can fly for 27 hours before returning to its base.

It is equipped with day-night sophisticated sensors including Raytheon’s SeaVue multi-mode maritime radar to identify and track vessels of different sizes, signals and electronic intelligence systems, satellite communication and even the Traffic Collision Avoidance System (TCAS).


The EMALS uses the propulsion power of electromagnetic energy, and the advantage of the system is that it can adapt to launch different sizes of aircraft from a carrier deck with the flick of a switch. Using Direct Current electricity, it is also being devised to launch satellites in the coming years.

The existing generation of aircraft launch steam catapults, developed decades ago, are much slower.

The Indian Government has acted fast to acquire these assets towards securing the Indian waters against terrorist and hostile intrusions. The LORs in fact were sent by the Navy soon after Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s official visit to Washington in June, just as the US also anchored India's entry into MTCR and declared India to be a Major Defense Partner (MDP).

There are no confirmed financial figures for either the drones or the EMALs, but according to industry sources, the list price for the 22 Guardians should be around US $ two billion.

Overall though, General Atomics, the biggest privately-held US defence company, could land with big multi-billion dollar deals in the coming years as the Indian Air Force (IAF) has also expressed interest in acquiring more than 100 Predator C Avenger attack drones. IAF had sent a communication in September last year, and significantly during Mr Modi's visit, this requirement was mentioned at the highest levels.

The jet-powered Avenger is a high performance next-generation drone, or Remotely Piloted Aircraft (RPA), for time-sensitive strike missions. It fires missiles to neutralize multiple hostile targets with precision with the flick of a command sent through satellites.

As the procedural paperwork for this drone could also begin only after the MTCR clearance, the Indian Ministry of Defence (MOD) should clear the proposal in due course. (India has just become the 35th Member of MTCR).

Notably, FMS deals require government-to-government (g-to-g) negotiations but with active support from the industry which manufactures every system in the US. The process ensures reasonable pricing, largely in accordance with what the US armed forces would pay for similar systems. The Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) of the Department of Defense (DOD) however charges a fee within a band of 2.5 to 5 percent to facilitate the process.

For instance, in the case of Boeing C 17 heavy lift transport aircraft, this was fixed at 3.8 percent. The fee varies for different deals, but will be the same for every country that buys the same system from the US.

The EMALS system is accompanied by Advanced Arresting Gear (AAG) to assist in secure landing of aircraft.

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Link: http://www.indiastrategic.in/Indian..._to_Acquire_Predator_B_Guardian_And_EMALS.htm
The MQ-4C makes FAR more sense than the Guardian.

Now Now Now..... @PARIKRAMA

Let me Give 1 MORE Good News...
This news also applies that - Naval AWACS ie Hawkeye wIill also come in Next 3 Yrs

My Navy is Getting some real POWER !!
If EMALS is coming then the E-2D AWACS is assured.
 
@PARIKRAMA

EMALS is the future for sure and if we are getting it for our future AC is even better .

But we were doing just fine with sky jumps ( not even the catapult ) till date . When the aircrafts have much powerful engines and thrust to weight ratio to do short take offs , even if without this futuristic tech , an aircraft carrier can do business as it intended to be . EMALS can launch air planes faster than any other system. But there are less chances to send waves of fighters in a short notice . The launch rate is tolerably fair with the current systems ( we can gain a couple of minutes if we use EMAL) . Other plus point of EMAL is low on maintenance and more reliable than catapult . We can live with that since our navy fighters just does a full throttle short take off .

All fuzz is about US is pouring tech and toys just like they found their missing child which they thought died a long time ago !
 

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