Indian chopper forced to land in Olding, Pakistan, after violating airspace

[Irfan Baloch]

Sir,

There were no physical hardships during captivity-----he got the ejection blues----.

indeed, he was kept in offciers mess and was treated well according to his own accounts during his first briefing soon after his release.
now if he is writing a book and has a change of heart then thats a differnt matter. he has a spinal injury during ejection and landing and thats the only physical harm he had, the arresting Pakistanis had no role in that.

this is how he looked after his release, the person suffering from alleged hardships doesnt smile and look healthy and fit like this

 

[kaykay]

Indian security has been breached in the sensitive Siachen Glacier-Aksai Chin-Ladakh-Kargil sector as Pakistan Army downloaded the GPS coordinates of all helipads from the army helicopter that strayed across the Line of Control (LoC) into Skardu region on Sunday morning. The Indian Cheetah along with the crew was allowed to return by Pakistan government later in the day.

Top government sources said the incident was being probed at a high level as the GPS data of the helicopter was found wiped out along with nicknames and code signs of all the helipads in the 14 Corps area.

The Nemu, Leh-based 14 Corps is responsible for defence of Kargil-Leh, Siachen Glacier and Line of Actual Control (LAC) with Tibet.

“We are treating the incident with utmost concern as coordinates of all helipads in the 14 Corps including Siachen Glacier and LAC are now with Pakistan army with code signs and nicknames,” said a senior official.

Senior officials said the Indian crew was being questioned as the Cheetah was fitted with the GPS and there was no reason for the machine to stray into ***************** Kashmir (***).

To add insult to injury, the Pakistan artillery helipad (with number 90), on which the Cheetah landed in the Marol area just across the LoC in Kargil sector was not known to the Indian Army. The Pakistan army allowed the chopper to return to Kargil after refuelling the machine and giving directions to pilots.

While Pakistan now says its fighter jet forced the Indian helicopter to land across the LoC, prima facie evidence reveals that the Indian pilot didn’t know where he had landed the helicopter due to bad weather conditions nor the Pakistan army had any clue about the landing.

Sources said 14 Corps commander Lt Gen Ravi Dastane was visiting an Indian position on Sunday morning ahead of Kargil when his advanced light helicopter (ALH) helicopter developed a snag and was grounded.

While another machine landed and flew Dastane to Srinagar, the Cheetah with a maintenance engineer was flown to the post to bring back the ALH after repairs.
It was during this maintenance mission that the Cheetah flew into bad weather and without the pilot realising it crossed the LoC into Pakistan territory of Marol, just across the Kargil town.

Pak took security data from the Army chopper - Hindustan Times

 

[Baby Leone]

proper investigation should be done...as who know indians have sent terrorists or spys...who knows

 

[SQ8]

GPS isnt perfect.. bad weather may have hampered reception.. and between the mountains .. the signals may be a little off.
Moreover.. what possible data would the PA get.. at maximum they could see the route planned out.
It is highly unlikely that the GPS system used by the IA and PA are the same .. so the PA just used a flash drive to download the data.
much ado about nothing...perfect example of dark yellow journalism.

 

[DarK-LorD]

^Yes,GPS signal speed up or down depending on atmospheric conditions.That might have been a reason.

 

[karan.1970]

^Yes,GPS signal speed up or down depending on atmospheric conditions.That might have been a reason.

And the terrain.. Anyone who has tried driving in New York City with a GPS to guide him can vouch for it..

 

[IceCold]

Here comes the spectacular Indian median and their conspiracy theories. So now they are saying we had no clue about the Indian helicopter violating our airspace but what about the Indian helicopter which had a GPS system on it. What the hell is the GPS system for if they don't know where the hell they landed. Its a joke. The pilots flying in these areas are not doing it for the first time, they are well aware of the atmospheric conditions in these area and practice every single day. In Europe air forces fly with thick fog where there is zero visibility, commercial flights land and take off, thanks to the modern navigational system. If they want to have a face saving, i suggest come up with something better.
And its not like we are attacking you guys just by finding out your helicopter locations. So give it a rest. And next time we should shoot it down just to make sure that the other side gets the message that we have every clue of who violated our airspace.

 

[John Doe]

And the terrain.. Anyone who has tried driving in New York City with a GPS to guide him can vouch for it..

Unfortunately some people here have never even seen a GPS navi system, yet they will freely talk about it

This NYC example is perfect. My roomie dropping his parents to JFK airport somehow ended up in the Bronx!!!! Just learned how to drive, on top of that!!!

 

[SpArK]

Its getting funnier...

"There is no secret information in any helicopter. It is regular information that is needed for any machine. So I do not think that is the case," Minister of State for Defence M.M. Pallam Raju said.

The comment came in the wake of a report that the country's security has been breached as Pakistan Army downloaded confidential information on helipads along the borders after the Cheetah helicopter strayed into Pakistani Kashmir and was forced to land Sunday.

'No sensitive material on chopper that strayed into Pakistan' - The Economic Times

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Its getting funnier...



'No sensitive material on chopper that strayed into Pakistan' - The Economic Times

Ha ha ha
classic

 

[Shabz Nist]

What can you "download" from a cheetah heli..?! Its a friggin' relic....

 

[karan.1970]

Unfortunately some people here have never even seen a GPS navi system, yet they will freely talk about it

This NYC example is perfect. My roomie dropping his parents to JFK airport somehow ended up in the Bronx!!!! Just learned how to drive, on top of that!!!

Uncanny... Same happened with me.. Was driving from Broadway to JFK to pick up my parents who were visiting from India and ended up in Bronx

 

[SpArK]

What can you "download" from a cheetah heli..?! Its a friggin' relic....

Can download dj tiesto and armin van buuren tracks from the cheetah..

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

As per the British Attache in Pakistan, the helicopter landed in poor visibilty and low on fuel on a landing strip they thought was their forward post in India. A soldier in Khakhi came running out and saluted them before realising that it was not a PA / PAF helicopter. Pointed a gun and raised an alarm. A IInd Lt present on the scene was very courteous and reported the same to his Batco while seating them in his personal /official tent. PAF jets were scrambled 45 mins later. Prove me wrong Mr. Army Man.

However there is no denying both the Govt's handled it in a mature way and the kudos in this go to Pakistan.

Regards

Links? also khaki is not in use now... so what khaki r u talkin abt ?

Rafis post:

After interrogation - and examination of the aircraft by Army and Air Force experts - story of the indian crew was confirmed, (it was carrying spare parts, for another indian aircraft) - it was refueled and sent back on it's way, it was escorted out of Pakistani airspace by Air Force fighters to the LOC.

Also can confirm that PAF was scrambled - when the Heli was picked up on the Radar network, heli was instructed to land, or otherwise be shot down. AWAC's were reportedly also involved.

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More information - helicopter was being tracked from deep within IOK airspace, when it reached within a few kilometers of LOC, AWACS controllers on board - scrambled F7 fighters from - airbase (will not name it on an open forum) - heli was told to land at nearest air force base, a welcoming party was on the ground, apparently the occupants were terrified - (maybe because of their own sides propaganda) - Officers on ground took them into custody, weapons were in the hands of the soldiers but were not pointed at the prisoners.

They were then thoroughly de-briefed, while Army and Air Force officials examined the Heli with a fine tooth comb. After story was verified, situation was resolved.

 

[For Ever Pakistan]

"jus dare to do it " or else