Indian army chief says military ready for short, swift war

[bdslph]

short war they mean for a week or 2
india has supply ffor 20 days

a short war will last for several month 2 at least
did they count the NUKE also

 

[gau8av]

I'm talking about air strike to attack Pakistani nuclear sites, like Israel did with Syria and Iraq (and is threatening to do to Iran). Nukes are a completely different matter. Even if Israel could, Pakistan's air defense is far too powerful for Israel to risk it.

you're right, it is too far for an air strike.

but what is this mighty air defense you speak of ?

 

[My-Analogous]

please these are a few ... just a few matured posts... fairness never mind...








the above posts deserves double cookies... "Gandu " that's an matured word... and it is not a abusive word... the above posts is not trolling...
some people bring entire Indian community for voting to modi... am not a modi supporter neither am Hindu... but i won't accept when you bring Hinduism in every other thread... why you need to drag entire Indians for nothing? ?? Majority of us seen modi vision about economy so we voted for him... if he stand upto the mark.. he ll become PM again else he ll be .... that's completely our internal issue.. we don't need some sort of random idiots like the above ... who tells us whom we should elect. .. whom we shouldn't. .. this is the maturity and fairness you are talking about. .. the guy who abused us with such words ... is not banned and not even his posts is removed...



please read the below posts especially last 2..








a guy abusing Indians and using words like gandu is not even banned at least that posts is not even removed.. this is what maturity you are talking about. ..

and the above posts.. some sort of random guys blaming us for electing Modi... who the hell are those idiots to blame us.. or to tell whom we should elect and whom we shouldn't. .. that's completely our internal matter.. we elected him for a better economic progress... if he stand upto the mark.. he ll get another chance ... else bye bye... am Modi supporter or am not a hindu... but how long you people drag Hinduism in every other thread to bash Indians??? don't talk much about fairness and maturity. .. these are very few examples. ..



please read the below posts especially last 2..








a guy abusing Indians and using words like gandu is not even banned at least that posts is not even removed.. this is what maturity you are talking about. ..

and the above posts.. some sort of random guys blaming us for electing Modi... who the hell are those idiots to blame us.. or to tell whom we should elect and whom we shouldn't. .. that's completely our internal matter.. we elected him for a better economic progress... if he stand upto the mark.. he ll get another chance ... else bye bye... am Modi supporter or am not a hindu... but how long you people drag Hinduism in every other thread to bash Indians??? don't talk much about fairness and maturity. .. these are very few examples. ..

To us the word "Gandu " is abusive and we will mind that, but for you the word "Gandu " is not abusive, we all know why

 

[Nicky G]

We should thank you for taking care of East Pakistan for us as it has made us stronger

Sure, you'll more to thank us in the future.

Where do you get these ridiculous ideas from? The only way from this to happen is if India were to launch an attack on Pakistani nuclear assets. Thankfully, India's military planners aren't as naive as you. They're not going to risk nuclear war, simply to see if Pakistan is capable of defending it's assets.

All you repeat is the word, 'naive', no real answer. There would obviously be others ways to test this, but no point talking sense to you.

That's what tests are for, and they're conducted on a regular basis, both by India and Pakistan. Pakistan has a nuclear strategic forces command precisely for this reason.

Does not answer the key question - who can screw up with your navigation systems if they wanted to.

To show how ridiculous your comment is? Not really. Anyone with common sense can see it, and if a Indian can agree with me on a common sense truth, then there is something seriously wrong with your thought process.

Na it just shows how little you know about debating.

You're missing key facts. Pakistan was not fighting full strength during that time, it was in the midst of an internal conflict that India exploited. Pakistan was also not a nuclear power, but I guess you don't care about facts, do you? Nope, you don't.

Your excuses of how weak you were are irrelevant, you are still weak - from fighting 'terror' on your western front.

You don't understand context at all - the point of bringing up '71 was not nukes but that your establishment resigned to face the worst humiliation and surrender in post WWII history just and not fight to the death, as they would if push came to shove regarding nukes.

I knows facts, you don't comprehend context, that's the problem here.

The nuclear assets ARE for self-preservation. There is a thing called the M.A.D doctrine, it was conceived during the cold war, so that the US and Russia would ensure that both sides would never come into direct conflict, because any such conflict would almost guaranteed result in a nuclear war.

India and Pak are no US and USSR, neither is China for that matter.

Besdies, as the '71 incident establishes, your establishment choses self-preservation and humiliation over total destruction.

Israel cannot target Pakistan, the distance is far away, the only way for them to do so is by gaining a base closer to Pakistan. That is why India declined Israel's offer, because the Israelis wanted to use India as a launching pad. Learn history. You quote things that you have little or no context to.

Again dude, take your childish attempts at insult elsewhere. I understand about their ask for Indian launchpads, what was silly was your remark about retaliation on Israel.

What makes you think that they wouldn't have evacuated them? Usually, during intense long wars, leaders of both countries, along with top personnel and elites are put into hiding, so as to avoid assassination attempts.

Every counter of yours is how do you know you guys wouldn't have taken care of it earlier. So childish.

Again, give me precedence with facts as I gave '71.

Says you, not history. In fact, Hiroshima and Nagasaki pretty much prove you wrong. An extreme situation where "we'll do this, we'll do that" was carried out with almost no hesitation.

This is just grade level material here. How is US strike on Japan comparable? Where are two nuclear power? Where is total destruction?

That was just two cities and the destruction of life did not even amount to what Japan had suffered due to conventional attacks - as is firebombing of Japanese cities by the Americans.

Not really, I'm telling you what even India's military planners fear. If what you think is true, India would have invaded Pakistan by now, or at least launched limited strikes that it has threatened constantly.

Aggression and having more cards to play mean nothing, if you're dead, something you keep ignoring.

What you keep ignoring is the simple historic precedent - your establishment lacks courage to do what you shot out at.

It doesn't shout, it simply reminds India, whenever India threatens to go to war with Pakistan.

Nah you guys actually whine that please take us seriously, we are a nuclear power.

Kargil is a different situation all together. Pakistan's and India's nuclear capability was young back then, but the reality is different now. This is NOT 1971, this is 2015.

Don't present events, or quote facts that you have literally zero context to.

Obviously its different because you say so. After the next war, you will be back here repeating some other excuse.

Go learn context please. Bye.

inevitable you say. ok so what is your plan to hit us and go away and you expect us not to hit back???

how idiotic is that thought right there. please do try to cross the border. and see what happens.

We will destroy you even if it means destroying ourselves. and do take us up on that promise.

and i know your rant about 90,000 soldiers in bangladesh. I explain to you that the bengalis didn't want us to rule them so logical thing to do was say fine we quit. In the process we saved millions of lives and saved a genocide from happening.

But this is our homeland. We can't let you come in. Wishful thinking on your part will just be a part of your wet dreams and nothing else.

Wishful thinking is your nukes matter, particularly the moronic tactical ones, rest is just a child's rant. Carry on.

 

[MilSpec]

There is no Swift, short war possible between the two sides, if anything it will be a all out affair which India should opt out of. There are other mechanisms that can be put in place as punitive methods for asymmetric warfare.

 

[JohnyD]

I think indian army chief should think 10 times before talking about a limited and swift war against Pakistan, Because pakistan is not sri lanka, or mayanmar, here our brave force will give you a tough time and you will not go back your home on your feets.and one thing more indian coffin industry should speed up to make coffins for their army.

 

[ice_man]

There is no Swift, short war possible between the two sides, if anything it will be a all out affair which India should opt out of. There are other mechanisms that can be put in place as punitive methods for asymmetric warfare.

one of the few sane voices on the other side sir. respect

 

[danger007]

To us the word "Gandu " is abusive and we will mind that, but for you the word "Gandu " is not abusive, we all know why

@Oscar @emmi @Jungibaaz @WebMaster.. please take care of his personal insults...

 

[That Guy]

you're right, it is too far for an air strike.

but what is this mighty air defense you speak of ?

Pakistan has SAMs as well as a powerful air force. There is not much Israel can do.

Sure, you'll more to thank us in the future.



All you repeat is the word, 'naive', no real answer. There would obviously be others ways to test this, but no point talking sense to you.



Does not answer the key question - who can screw up with your navigation systems if they wanted to.



Na it just shows how little you know about debating.



Your excuses of how weak you were are irrelevant, you are still weak - from fighting 'terror' on your western front.

You don't understand context at all - the point of bringing up '71 was not nukes but that your establishment resigned to face the worst humiliation and surrender in post WWII history just and not fight to the death, as they would if push came to shove regarding nukes.

I knows facts, you don't comprehend context, that's the problem here.



India and Pak are no US and USSR, neither is China for that matter.

Besdies, as the '71 incident establishes, your establishment choses self-preservation and humiliation over total destruction.



Again dude, take your childish attempts at insult elsewhere. I understand about their ask for Indian launchpads, what was silly was your remark about retaliation on Israel.



Every counter of yours is how do you know you guys wouldn't have taken care of it earlier. So childish.

Again, give me precedence with facts as I gave '71.



This is just grade level material here. How is US strike on Japan comparable? Where are two nuclear power? Where is total destruction?

That was just two cities and the destruction of life did not even amount to what Japan had suffered due to conventional attacks - as is firebombing of Japanese cities by the Americans.



What you keep ignoring is the simple historic precedent - your establishment lacks courage to do what you shot out at.



Nah you guys actually whine that please take us seriously, we are a nuclear power.



Obviously its different because you say so. After the next war, you will be back here repeating some other excuse.

Go learn context please. Bye.



Wishful thinking is your nukes matter, particularly the moronic tactical ones, rest is just a child's rant. Carry on.

I feel like I'm repeating myself. Not only are you ignoring what I say, what you do address, you dismiss, or put a false spin on it.

I'm done here. You have no idea what you're talking about, as many members on this thread have shown. You keep saying the same debunked thing over and over again, and have zero context to your points.

@Oscar you wanted me to point out low quality posts and posters, here you go.

 

[Defender pk]

kabhi awo na hushboo ham hud lagaenge......

 

[danger007]

To us the word "Gandu " is abusive and we will mind that, but for you the word "Gandu " is not abusive, we all know why

it seems you are brand ambassador for that word... no one else can fulfil your place ...

 

[Assange]

Pakistan has SAMs as well as a powerful air force. There is not much Israel can do.


@Oscar you wanted me to point out low quality posts and posters, here you go.

Well regarding your powerful air defense and powerful air force....

Where were they when Americans landed on your army town and were flying there for nearly an hour....

If Americans can do it...yes Israeli's can also do it...Coz they both have same tech....

 

[Skywalker]

Is this your army cheif childhood picture or the latest one.

Well regarding your powerful air defense and powerful air force....

Where were they when Americans landed on your army town and were flying there for nearly an hour....

If Americans can do it...yes Israeli's can also do it...Coz they both have same tech....

What americans did and hiw you need hundred more years to reach that tech level, israelies can give it a try, they will find out, no wonder why they dont wanna take a risk, just wondering why a chest thimping indian is so excited about this, i know you dont have balls but why take a joy some one elses capabilities.

 

[That Guy]

Well regarding your powerful air defense and powerful air force....

Where were they when Americans landed on your army town and were flying there for nearly an hour....

If Americans can do it...yes Israeli's can also do it...Coz they both have same tech....

The raid by the Americans were unexpected, a raid from the Indian border wouldn't be (as Israel would have to use Indian land to launch it's operation). Pakistan air defenses on the western border are on peace time deployment, meaning inactive, as Afghanistan has no real air force, and Iran is considered a friendly nation (despite some border issues).

 

[Assange]

The raid by the Americans were unexpected, a raid from the Indian border wouldn't be (as Israel would have to use Indian land to launch it's operation). Pakistan air defenses on the western border are on peace time deployment, meaning inactive, as Afghanistan has no real air force, and Iran is considered a friendly nation (despite some border issues).

I did not expect this kind of a reply from you sir...Pakistan wants to be a regional power....and it has problems most of its neighborhood....And you are saying American raid was unexpected.....

What makes you think Israel will use Indian land???? Given India's influence in your neighborhood they can persuade some other neighbors of yours to give permission for Israel....You also need to consider that India as a air base out of India also...So they might that one also.....If they use that then you are going to say we didn't expect that raid it was from our western front?????

Is this your army cheif childhood picture or the latest one.


What americans did and hiw you need hundred more years to reach that tech level, israelies can give it a try, they will find out, no wonder why they dont wanna take a risk, just wondering why a chest thimping indian is so excited about this, i know you dont have balls but why take a joy some one elses capabilities.

We are not Pakistanis to take joy of some others capabilities....

I was just making a point here....where someone said Pakistan had powerful air defense system and powerful air force....

Well you still have not answered that where did they both go when American landed on your soil that to in your military barrack....