Indian Air Force Sends Proposal For 33 New Russian Fighter Jets

[Han Patriot]

Lol, Moron this is 10 month old video.

Call me moron or whatever. The fact is a guy went to Moscow to beg for arms. Lol

Read below newslink. It was ONLY recently approved in immediate fashion. Lol
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/...ssian-fighter-jets-243bn-200703045842841.html

 

[Ultima Thule]

Lol, Moron this is 10 month old video.

world biggest arms importer country called other country Moron, no get a life and dirnk some cow cola so your brain will become more dumb

 

[Chandrguptaa]

world biggest arms importer country called other country Moron, no get a life and dirnk some cow cola so your brain will become more dumb

But you guys still have to beg for bailout.

 

[Ultima Thule]

But you guys still have to beg for bailout.

why you concern on our problem, concern your pathetic country first

 

[Chandrguptaa]

Call me moron or whatever. The fact is a guy went to Moscow to beg for arms. Lol

Read below newslink. It was ONLY recently approved in immediate fashion. Lol
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/...ssian-fighter-jets-243bn-200703045842841.html

As legend Mediacrooks "Journalists are not very Bright people" especially from ME.
Who told you about emergency,Doval?

 

[Ultima Thule]

As legend Mediacrooks "Journalists are not very Bright people" especially from ME.
Who told you about emergency,Doval?

You pathetic shit RSS goon

 

[shjliu]

btw Su 30s are also assembled in India, why made in Russia at full ? assembling in India would has reduced the cost a bit and also would had resulted in some jobs....

LOL...

 

[Han Patriot]

As legend Mediacrooks "Journalists are not very Bright people" especially from ME.
Who told you about emergency,Doval?

You don't have to tell. Sudden approval adn purchases from the lethargic Indian bureaucracy, only a retard can't tell its panic buying. Lol

But you guys still have to beg for bailout.

Stop fighting you two. PAKISTAN might be poor but India is a starvation champion.

 

[Figaro]

That's why Your Airforce rejected WS-10 for JF-17 Block-2 in 2015.
Instead of Cheerleading for China why don't you guys first start using Chinese Engines.
https://thediplomat.com/2015/11/pakistan-to-stick-with-russian-engine-for-jf-17-fighter-jet/

You do know that the WS-10 is meant for a completely different class of aircraft right?

When it comes to Engine Technology , efficency , rating i would rate

USA no 1
Europe no 2
Russia 3rd
China 4th . relative new comers

I am really happy Tejas has gone with USA engines ..

Honestly Russian engines would have been fine for the Tejas. They are much cheaper than Western ones, even if the reliability (especially MTBO) leaves much to be desired.

 

[Chandrguptaa]

You do know that the WS-10 is meant for a completely different class of aircraft right?


Honestly Russian engines would have been fine for the Tejas. They are much cheaper than Western ones, even if the reliability (especially MTBO) leaves much to be desired.

Since when WS-10 became engine of different class?
It's just copied version GE F101 which of same category of Klimov RD-93.
That's why they offered It to PAF for JF-17 Blk-2.
But PAF knows the reality of Chinese Engine tech.

You don't have to tell. Sudden approval adn purchases from the lethargic Indian bureaucracy, only a retard can't tell its panic buying. Lol


Stop fighting you two. PAKISTAN might be poor but India is a starvation champion.

Says a person whose own country Killed 50 Million folks just for Ego satisfaction.

 

[Han Patriot]

Says a person whose own country Killed 50 Million folks just for Ego satisfaction.

50 million? Plucked from your nostrils again? Lol. The GOI kills few hundred thousand a year from starvation and preventable diseases through mismanagement and incompetence. Anyway don't make me start on Indian social problems ok. Whenever we talk about Indian military problems, it will inevitably end into democracy or human rights talk when you guys failed to refute facts. Lol

 

[Figaro]

Since when WS-10 became engine of different class?
It's just copied version GE F101 which of same category of Klimov RD-93.
That's why they offered It to PAF for JF-17 Blk-2.
But PAF knows the reality of Chinese Engine tech.


Says a person whose own country Killed 50 Million folks just for Ego satisfaction.

This really shows your ignorance. The WS-10's core was based on the CFM-56 ... it is no way a copy of the GE F-101. And no, the performance of the WS-10 around the F-110-129/F-110-132 level, both of which are in a completely different thrust class than the RD-93. Does it really kill to do a simple Wikipedia scan?

 

[fitpOsitive]

India to buy 33 Russian fighter aircraft for $2.43 billion

ASHOK SHARMA

today

NEW DELHI (AP) — India’s defense ministry on Thursday approved the purchase of 21 Russian MiG-29 and 12 Sukhoi Su-30MKI fighter aircraft costing $2.43 billion to augment its air force as the country faces security challenges on its borders with China and Pakistan.

The planes will supplement 59 MiG-29’s and 272 Sukhoi aircraft currently in service.

The defense ministry also said it has approved local development of missile systems for all three branches of the military, and ammunition and upgraded infantry combat vehicles for the army.

India is awaiting the arrival of the first batch of 36 Rafale fighter jets ordered as part of a $8.78 billion deal signed with France in 2016 in “ready to fly” condition, meaning they will be made in France. India is expecting four to six Rafale aircraft to arrive in India at the end of this month.

India has become the world’s biggest arms importer as it modernizes its military. Major arms manufacturers are wooing the country as it replaces obsolete Soviet-era weapons.

Rahul Bedi, a defense analyst, said the acquisition of the Russian aircraft will boost the air force’s depleted fighter squadron numbers, which have dropped from an approved total of 42 to 28. One squadron comprises 18 aircraft.

He said the 21 MiG-29s will be second-hand planes that will be updated in Russia, while the 12 Su-30MKIs will be built under licence by India’s state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd.

Tensions with China over disputed territory led to hand-to-hand combat between soldiers on June 15 that left 20 Indians dead. Indian officials say the standoff began in early May when large contingents of Chinese soldiers entered deep inside Indian-controlled territory at three places in Ladakh.

Indian and Chinese military officials and diplomats have held several rounds of talks aimed at reaching a solution.

India’s ties with hostile neighbor Pakistan hit a low after India changed the status of the portion of disputed Kashmir it controls in August last year. India and Pakistan have fought two wars over control of the Himalayan region since Britain gave them independence from colonial rule in 1947.

India has been fighting an insurgency in Kashmir since 1989. It accuses Pakistan of arming and training the rebels, a charge Islamabad denies.

https://apnews.com/5ac7300337fa68fee320db1595265ad1

I don't know how to say that in Russian : Thank you China.

 

[Chandrguptaa]

This really shows your ignorance. The WS-10's core was based on the CFM-56 ... it is no way a copy of the GE F-101. And no, the performance of the WS-10 around the F-110-129/F-110-132 level, both of which are in a completely different thrust class than the RD-93. Does it really kill to do a simple Wikipedia scan?

Wikipedia?
Any idiot can write anything he wish as an article.
& Only other idiots will trust the wikipedia.
Better read decent engineering books & Mags instead of Wikipedia if you are Interested in Real knowledge.
F101/F404/F414/RD93/WS-10 are mostly of same dimension engine with just variation of Thrust.
Russian offered AL-31FP, AL-41F1 & RD-93 for Indian Projects but we rejected all of them because except AL-41F1 HAL builds both of them.
Russian engine have very poor performance at Heights except Jets who have very High TOW like Mig-29UPG.
And only idiots will use a low thrust engine despite having low TOW.
Because it's very important for Naval landing, Height gain, Maneuvering & Instantaneous turn rate.
Tejas has better TOW than JF-17 BLK-2 but still we are replacing F404(82 KN) with GE F414(98KN).
GE has promised to provide a India specific version GE F414IN which could produce thrust of 115KN for AMCA & TEDBF.

 

[Figaro]

Wikipedia?
Any idiot can write anything he wish as an article.
& Only other idiots will trust the wikipedia.
Better read decent engineering books & Mags instead of Wikipedia if you are Interested in Real knowledge.
F101/F404/F414/RD93/WS-10 are mostly of same dimension engine with just variation of Thrust.
Russian offered AL-31FP, AL-41F1 & RD-93 for Indian Projects but we rejected all of them because except AL-41F1 HAL builds both of them.
Russian engine have very poor performance at Heights except Jets who have very High TOW like Mig-29UPG.

Yet you have less knowledge than the "idiots" of Wikipedia given what you have said in this post and the previous couple posts. To say that the WS-10 or F-110 jet engines are in the same thrust class as the RD-33/RD-93 is sheer ludicrously. They are completely different engines meant for a completely different class of aircraft.