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The answer is quite simple. Some earn commission I mean big commission from such deals and India is notorious for this type of business deals.
I think you r right
Indian Acquisition of the Gorshkov
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why cant indian navy go for it ? it will add some strength to indian navy for sure.
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why cant indian navy go for it ? it will add some strength to indian navy for sure.
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Aircraft carrier vessel at Vizag by 2016: Navy chief
VISAKHAPATNAM: Chief of Naval Staff Admiral Sureesh Mehta said an aircraft carrier vessel would be based at Visakhapatnam by the end of 2016.
Speaking at the Naval investiture ceremony at ENC on Saturday, the Chief of Naval Staff said the Indian Navy would acquire eight new surveillance aircraft soon.
The Indian Navy's growth would see a massive expansion into a 160-ship force with almost 300 aircraft by 2022 with satellite surveillance and net-centric operations to provide force multiplication.
He said the role of ENC has gained importance in the Indian Ocean. The command ships are now in Singapore for joint exercises, and soon they would participate in joint exercises in the China sea too. The new Naval Academy in Kerala would be set up by June this year, Sureesh Mehta said at a news conference later.
On the merger of Hindustan Shipyard Limited (HSL), the Admiral said the Navy always preferred indigenous ships. There were three ship-building units in the country and they have a handful of orders with 38 ships in construction.
To a question, the Navy chief said 24 hours flight operation would be carried out at the airport if there were any demands. The Indian Navy was in the forefront of anti-piracy operations in the Gulf of Aden, which was much appreciated the world over.
Admiral Sureesh Mehta took the salute at an impressive parade comprising 24 platoons and gave away the President's Gallantry and Non-Gallantry Awards to 39 Naval personnel
VISAKHAPATNAM: Chief of Naval Staff Admiral Sureesh Mehta said an aircraft carrier vessel would be based at Visakhapatnam by the end of 2016.
Speaking at the Naval investiture ceremony at ENC on Saturday, the Chief of Naval Staff said the Indian Navy would acquire eight new surveillance aircraft soon.
The Indian Navy's growth would see a massive expansion into a 160-ship force with almost 300 aircraft by 2022 with satellite surveillance and net-centric operations to provide force multiplication.
He said the role of ENC has gained importance in the Indian Ocean. The command ships are now in Singapore for joint exercises, and soon they would participate in joint exercises in the China sea too. The new Naval Academy in Kerala would be set up by June this year, Sureesh Mehta said at a news conference later.
On the merger of Hindustan Shipyard Limited (HSL), the Admiral said the Navy always preferred indigenous ships. There were three ship-building units in the country and they have a handful of orders with 38 ships in construction.
To a question, the Navy chief said 24 hours flight operation would be carried out at the airport if there were any demands. The Indian Navy was in the forefront of anti-piracy operations in the Gulf of Aden, which was much appreciated the world over.
Admiral Sureesh Mehta took the salute at an impressive parade comprising 24 platoons and gave away the President's Gallantry and Non-Gallantry Awards to 39 Naval personnel
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Russian carrier to arrive in two years: Indian Navy chiefMarch 30th, 2009 - 8:52 pm ICT by IANS -
Panaji, March 30 (IANS) Despite small monetary issues, the Indian Navy will receive the Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov within two years, a top military commander said Monday.
We hope to have the ship in the next two years. There are certain small monetary issues which are being tackled by the government, Indian Navy chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta said.
Speaking on the sidelines of a function organised by Goa Shipyard Limited in the port town of Vasco to mark to launch of the largest Indian-built offshore patrol vessel INS Saryu, Mehta said that the process of the carriers transfer was progressing satisfactorily.
India and Russia had signed a $1.5 billion deal for the Gorshkov, now renamed INS Vikramaditya, in 2005. Of this, some $900 million was meant for retrofitting the ship, which was mothballed after a crippling blaze in 1995, and the remaining was for a squadron of MiG-29 fighters that are to be deployed on the ship.
In 2007, Russia unilaterally raised the price by $1.2 billion and is now demanding $2.9 billion. Defence Minister A.K. Antony has repeatedly expressed confidence the issue would be resolved satisfactorily.
Mehta also spoke of a long-term plan to strengthen the Indian Navy.
We are looking at a fleet of 160 warships and 300 aircraft by 2022, he said.
Stating that the Indian Navy was a blue water force in its orientation, Mehta stressed the importance of coastal police stations and marine police units to patrol the coast and work in a cohesive manner with the other maritime forces like the Coast Guard.
This issue has gained added importance in the wake of the Nov 26-29, 2008, Mumbai terror attacks when 10 Pakistani terrorists sneaked into the city via the sea route and spread mayhem that lasted for over 60 hours and claimed the lives of more than 170 people, including 26 foreigners.
Panaji, March 30 (IANS) Despite small monetary issues, the Indian Navy will receive the Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov within two years, a top military commander said Monday.
We hope to have the ship in the next two years. There are certain small monetary issues which are being tackled by the government, Indian Navy chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta said.
Speaking on the sidelines of a function organised by Goa Shipyard Limited in the port town of Vasco to mark to launch of the largest Indian-built offshore patrol vessel INS Saryu, Mehta said that the process of the carriers transfer was progressing satisfactorily.
India and Russia had signed a $1.5 billion deal for the Gorshkov, now renamed INS Vikramaditya, in 2005. Of this, some $900 million was meant for retrofitting the ship, which was mothballed after a crippling blaze in 1995, and the remaining was for a squadron of MiG-29 fighters that are to be deployed on the ship.
In 2007, Russia unilaterally raised the price by $1.2 billion and is now demanding $2.9 billion. Defence Minister A.K. Antony has repeatedly expressed confidence the issue would be resolved satisfactorily.
Mehta also spoke of a long-term plan to strengthen the Indian Navy.
We are looking at a fleet of 160 warships and 300 aircraft by 2022, he said.
Stating that the Indian Navy was a blue water force in its orientation, Mehta stressed the importance of coastal police stations and marine police units to patrol the coast and work in a cohesive manner with the other maritime forces like the Coast Guard.
This issue has gained added importance in the wake of the Nov 26-29, 2008, Mumbai terror attacks when 10 Pakistani terrorists sneaked into the city via the sea route and spread mayhem that lasted for over 60 hours and claimed the lives of more than 170 people, including 26 foreigners.
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Utter waste of money. Return it and get get the money back.
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^^^^^ yeh and then - me and ruby will go and have - vada pav at delhiwala near malad station with that money ?
Why did u say - return it back - of course its a metaphor i can understand.
But if you may elaborate please?
Why did u say - return it back - of course its a metaphor i can understand.
But if you may elaborate please?
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Look at the cost it took to prolong the life of present carrier. By the time they give India the carrier, India would have made its own carrier.
I would rather live without an aircraft carrier than shell out $3bil+ for a mere one-two year insurance when the very same insurance did not pay off when it was needed badly to maintain the numbers.
PS: I am open to the suggestion
I would rather live without an aircraft carrier than shell out $3bil+ for a mere one-two year insurance when the very same insurance did not pay off when it was needed badly to maintain the numbers.
PS: I am open to the suggestion
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Look at the cost it took to prolong the life of present carrier. By the time they give India the carrier, India would have made its own carrier.
I would rather live without an aircraft carrier than shell out $3bil+ for a mere one-two year insurance when the very same insurance did not pay off when it was needed badly to maintain the numbers.
PS: I am open to the suggestion
I agree its a delayed proposition but - well it was problem from both side. I think still getting the modified carrier at this cost is not a bad deal at all. and we need a carrier very qucikly for our aging current carrier.
I seriously doubt we will be able to finish second carrier by 2015 . Going by our history. But never the less the number of enemy we carry, we can do with 2 carriers, which will really strengthen our navy to a big level.
or selling further , i am sure we are not lookign at 3billion$ for just a few yrs of use.
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Look at wiki. One more carrier is expected to be ordered. Also I guess the expected life of Gorshkov is very less.
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UK is building bigger AC for around $4 Billion and we are getting 25 year old for close to $3 billion. It doen't make sense, I am with proffesor on this one. We should return that piece of junk. If we go to UK with this money we can get new one, within same time frame.
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We need that Carrier. Its about time, not money.
And after this Carrier-we shouldnt ever need to buy another carrier. We'r building our first and its a good start.
And after this Carrier-we shouldnt ever need to buy another carrier. We'r building our first and its a good start.
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But mishra jee, new carrier for almost same amount of money within same time frame. I just can't diggest the idea of waisting our country's hard earned money waisting on 25 year old junk.
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Exactly and we could use more than 30 fighters on it, but this Russian carrier is far too old, expensive and delayed. I never understand what we want to do with just 15 - 20 fighters, specially when some of them will be LCA. STOBAR limit the usefull load of a fighter, cause they have to carry more fuel. So where is the sense of a naval LCA, that can carry less load as a normal LCA?
Also if you want to attack land bases, or other carriers 15 - 20 fighters are not enough. Even our indigenous carrier will have hardly 20 - 30 fighters if I'm not wrong, but again the combination of STOBAR and LCA + Migs will limit it's capabilities.
If we want only small carriers, we should go for US Wasp class multi role carrier types, with different aircraft for different missions.
Sea Control
20 - AV-8B Harrier attack planes
6 SH-60 Seahawk ASW helicopters
Assault
42 - CH-46 Sea Knight helicopters
or a mixture which could be usefull now against pirates now
4 - CH-46 Sea Knight helicopters
4 - CH-53 Sea Stallion helicopters
6 - UH-1N Huey helicopters
6 - AH-1W SuperCobra attack helicopter
10 - AV-8B Harrier attack planes
The Ships that patrol against pirats now have only one helicopter and you need many ships to control such a long coast, this kind of carrier would be a big help!
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