Exactly, glad to see a sensible Chinese member here.
Those were not western reports. Those came directly from USN.
I'm talking about SSBN, not SSN. SSN is not for deterrence.
SSN/SSBN, both are both nuclear propelled, what is stopping 094 from roaming around? I am just proving to you our nuclear propulsion is capable of lurking in the Indian Ocean. 094 was completed in 2007 and by your internet source (which btw used the word 'if true') claim the first patrol was in 2015, then you mean 094 was waiting for Arihant to be completed like a good old friend?
Does it even sound logical? So our submarine sat there for 8 years to wait for Arihant? Gosh, the world doesn't revolve around India OK?
What underpowered?
Because they are a better source than you.
All I said is we are better than "you". You ain't the world.
What source? Our nuclear subs are all classified. You think anybody has got access to those information? We are not like you, telling the world Arihant is a SECRET project then declaring it by stages where it is now, the dimensions, bla bla bla, telling the world another one is under construction, We don't even need to spy on India, your big mouth ministers will announce it. Whatever open information out there is a guesstimate.
Better than us in what sense? Can you explain? Up until recently you can't even make bow mounted sonars. Your Arihant needed to use Russian steel for god sake. Just imagine what you are saying is true for a moment, what does this imply?
1) China worked harder, invest more, conducts research, conducts espionage to get technologies, copies and reverse engineers to learn and absorb and train specialist, improve on those technologies, have over decades of experience is now less advanced than India? Does this make sense to you? How did India get more advanced? It got downloaded from heaven into your genius heads again?
We have never been 'spoonfed' with technology. In fact, it was because of China that we stopped getting ToT. It was China that was spoonfed with technology because of the Soviet Union. Whatever you asked for, you got it, even cryogenic engine technology. Even today most of your engine technology is western sourced.
http://in.reuters.com/article/breakout-submarines-special-report-pix-g-idINL4N0JJ0FM20131219
The consultants are not doing anything for LCA. They are literally useless.
We copied, bought, reverse, beg, borrow, improve, innovate, that was our path. We were under embargo for gods sake. Hell, the report you have proves exactly my point, we had to use civilian method to access western technology and then reverse it, absorb it, improve it and innovate upon it. Does it mean we were spoonfed like Indians? You literally had consultants holding your hands, and after decades and billions you produce what? LCA and Arihant, both crappy products by Chinese standards. You are comparing a country under western arms and technology embargo with one with no restictions. Do you even want me to start on your Russian clone cryogenic engine? LCA consultants useless, you ever wonder why LCA looks like a mirage clone?
Your submarines are yet to be able to deter the US. Your subs are for India right now. No one else.
Well I would say our current 094 is not comparable to US subs, but 094B is actually comparable and 096 is even better than US subs. Thats my thinking, but India? We build nuclear subs decades ago before India even learned to walk, and you think this is meant for you? You think too highly of yourselves. We have Pakistan to handle turd world countries like you. Just need to arm them and develop their economy now.
. Please don't drag us to shit level same as India who only recently build their ONE AND ONLY SUBMARINE.
Those earlier reports were not accurate, and the most recent report from the USN has completely different tone regarding the Type 095. According to the most recent INTEL, it is describing as lethal as the Seawolf class by the USN.
Please don't reveal too much to these geniuses. They have no idea how backward their country is. They keep on thinking we sell plastic toys to them when in reality, comm equipment, electronics, power equipment, machinery, APIs are sold by the billions and they export back raw materials to us. No wonder the deficit is 50 billion$, only turd world low tech countries can get this kinda deficit with China. Pathetic to the core!