India, Pakistan must discuss Kashmir: President Erdogan

[Hindustani78]

We will listen to everyone and we will respect but we will do what Quran and sunnah says.


We will take every inch of Kashmir back.
Along with this we will free Palestine
Along with this we will rise a white flag in india when we we captured it.
INSHALLAH.
With the mercy of ALLAH Almighty.

Inshallah , Holy lands of Indian and Arab nation will be liberated.

By the way , this is flag of Republic of India. Tiranga

Guarded by

 

[Storm Force]

The Turkish prime leader is not stupid

India is a very important country both Turkey & China (so called Pakistanis allys according PDF members) will come with nice words nice statements looking for trade ,

IN THE 21ST century you simply cannot ignore india regardless of wether you are Turkey, UAE , Saudi Or China.

For some Pakistanis it must make their blood boil to see these friendly states arse licking india

HECK the Turkish prime minster suggested support for UN permanent seat for INDIA

 

[Kaniska]

SOURCE: IANS

In what appears to be a departure from Turkey’s traditional stand on Kashmir, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan says Pakistan and India must discuss their festering dispute.In an interview ahead of his visit to India, Erdogan also said that the obvious similarity between separatist Kurds and Kashmiris was one between “apples and oranges”.

“If we compare apples to oranges, we will make a mistake, a big mistake,” the President told news portal WION.”We have no problems with the Kurdish people, Kurdish citizens in Turkey. We have a problem with terrorist organisations.

“With regard to the Kashmir question, there is no similarity whatsoever. The nature of the two disputes is different.

“There is a territorial dispute in Jammu and Kashmir. Pakistan, as a state, is pursuing its own theory and arguments. And they are right.

“But India as a state is also pursuing her own agenda, her own arguments and she is right too.”

Erdogan added that in Jammu and Kashmir, “there is a state of India, and there is one of Pakistan, who are both in need of settling this dispute once and for all”.

Erdogan said Turkey would never use the Organisation of Islamic Conference (OIC) against India.

“We would never release statements against India… All we want to see is open the channels for dialogue in order to bring India and Pakistan closer to one another, in order to hopefully settle the dispute on Kashmir once and for all.

“This is what is troubling us, this is what we are working on.”

Asked why Turkey blocked New Delhi’s admission to the Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG), Erdogan said Ankara had “always been supportive of India’s entry into NSG and also that of Pakistan in a similar way”.

He said both countries “have nuclear capabilities and both are right”.

The President denied linking India with Pakistan. “We are not linking the two. That is why I said India’s right and Pakistan’s right too.

“They have both nuclear capabilities. We are trying to act very fairly and are supportive of India. And India’s Prime Minister has thanked me for that support.

“Similarly we have been supportive of Pakistan too.”

Erdogan said there should be no permanent or non-permanent seats in the UN. Instead, he suggested that 20 member countries should rotate every two years in the Security Council.

“India is a very important power in that regard and India should be represented at the Security Council… The Security Council has never been reformed, it needs to be updated.”



http://idrw.org/india-pakistan-must-discuss-kashmir-president-erdogan/

Take it easy guys. Why are Indian posters r so hyped up about Turkey....Turkey and India has scope in the economic areas only....don't expect too much...

 

[SorryNotSorry]

Trust me you all indian motherfucker look like this.

You haven't even a toilet to bath
Fuk on the road bath on the road





It was narrated that Thawbaan, the freed slave of the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), said: The Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “There are two groups of my ummah whom Allah will protect from the Fire: a group who will conquer India, and a group who will be with ‘Eesaa ibn Maryam (peace be upon him).”

Narrated by an-Nasaa’i (no. 3175) and Imam Ahmad in al-Musnad (37/81), Mu’sasat ar-Risaalah edn. Classed as hasan by the commentators on al-Musnad. Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in as-Silsilah as-Saheehah (no. 1934)

No it is your motherfucker brother
It is the mother fukr isis agent which took birth with the CIA and Mossad combination.

Your second illegitimate brother.

Posts reported. Don't use abusive language.

Sorry to disappoint you, we are not an insecure lot like you crying bitches I mean bhartis. He said what he said, We believe what we believe and will keep fighting for what we believe in. It's you bhartis who have no ethical or moral grounds hence seeking refuge behind such political statements.

What superior moral and ethical standards does Pakistan adhere to? Please do enlighten us- Mr Holier than thou?

 

[NirmalKrish]

We will listen to everyone and we will respect but we will do what Quran and sunnah says.


We will take every inch of Kashmir back.
Along with this we will free Palestine
Along with this we will rise a white flag in india when we we captured it.
INSHALLAH.
With the mercy of ALLAH Almighty.

That very thought is wrong! But good luck for it through "no disrespect!"

Oh no I am shaking.

Please don't feed trolls, report and move on

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Ilnur Chevik can't be a part of the inner circle. He's more for PR. He used to run the first English language newspaper in Turkey and was very close to Merhum Demirel...

 

[Radio Mirchi]

Nope...in some circumstances, yes...U did nuke blast, we did nuke blast...We just get linked with you even if we don't want...Can't tell why this happen all the time...may be due to enmity

Ok. For six decades you were ahead of India in per capita income. Now India has left you behind. Take the challenge and overtake us. Like quotes on our highway trucks: "Dum hai to pass kar, warna bardasht kar".

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Just a typical statement to pave the way for a visit...Just formality. Pakistan and Turkiye are very close to each other. They are strategic partners. Indians are too late to exploit anything...Indians don't know Mr. Erdogan yet.

The President denied linking India with Pakistan. “We are not linking the two. That is why I said India’s right and Pakistan’s right too.

Denied linking two and yet in heart beat, in further sentence, linked so...

Some folks are taking it way too seriously. Here's some take-aways from this naïve Fakir:

• The real test of the friendship/brotherhood is when some critical "info/materials etc." shared and support is provided- mostly secretly of course. I have no clue but IMO it has crossed that threshold a #of times as far as the Pak-Turk relationship is concerned. Some posters have hinted at that too. The rest are all details.
• Which sane person would suggest two nuclear powered neighbors to sort out their disputes in the battlefields????
• As for Kashmir, the Ehl-i Iman have put their trust in the Gayip, and usually pleasant surprises come from there!!!!
• India is also home to 200m Muslims. I think Pak establishment also keeps that in the back of their minds...

 

[ito]

This is a considerable change in Turkey's position on Kashmir. And I am sure India will welcome it.

 

[AKD]

What is there to discuss??

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

Here are what appeared in the Turkish newspapers from the interview with the Indian channel WION. I am giving Turkish excerpts and the main points in English as I have understood.
Question on Kashmir:
"Bu, her iki ülkenin de aslında üzüntü duyduğu bir konudur. Tabii bunların aşılması bana göre dünya barışına önemli bir katkı sağlayacaktır. Yaklaşık 70 yıldır çözülemeyen bu sorunu çözmek, inanıyorum ki her iki ülkenin de lehine olacaktır. Bunları uzatmak ve bu sorunun geleceğe yönelik bedelini gelecek nesillere ödetmek doğru değildir diye düşünüyorum ve Keşmir bölge halklarının da refahı yanında Güney Asya'da istikrar ve güvenliği de olumsuz yönde etkiliyor ve biz bunu istemiyoruz. İstediğimiz tek şey var. Biz dost kazanacağız ve dostlarımızı artıracağız. Bu bölgede Hindistan bizim dostumuz, Pakistan da bizim dostumuz. Ayrıca, bizim kadim dostluğumuzu perçinleyen bazı şeyler var. Nedir? Örneğin dini noktada Hindistan'la da bizim dostluğun yanında aynı şekilde Müslüman kardeşlerimiz var, Pakistan'da da bizim Müslüman kardeşlerimiz var. Bizim hepsiyle bu diyaloğumuzu onları bir köprü kılmak vasıtasıyla geliştirmemizde büyük faydalar olduğuna özellikle inanıyorum. Bakın daha fazla can kaybına fırsat vermeden özellikle ikili diyalogları ki çoklu diyaloga da girebilir bu, bizler bu konularda devreye girebiliriz, bu diyaloglar vasıtasıyla bence bu sorunu çözmenin ve ortadan bu sorunu kaldırmanın her iki ülkeye de faydasının çok çok büyük olacağına inanıyorum."

Main points: If India and Pak can solve this 70 year Kashmir problem, which negatively affect the stability, peace and welfare of the South Asia, it'll be beneficial for both of them. They need to start a dialogue and may expand it with more participants to solve this problem without more loss of life and leaving it simmering for the next generations. Turkey is a friend to both countries since both of them have Muslim brothers, and can enter into the expanded dialogue as a bridge.

On question to compare Kurdish and Kashmir problems:

"Şimdi bakın bunlar birbirine benzer halde kıyaslarsak yanlış yaparız. Şimdi bizim Türkiye'de Kürt vatandaşlarımızla sorunumuz yok, bunu birbirine karıştırmayalım. Bizim bir terör örgütüyle sorunumuz var, anlatabiliyor muyum? Yani şu anda Keşmir sorunuyla alakalı konu bu değil. Orada bir defa farklı bir olay var, orada toprak sorununa varıncaya kadar birçok sorunlar var. Dolayısıyla Pakistan kendi tezlerini devlet olarak ileri sürdüğü zaman kendine göre haklı, Hindistan kendi tezini ileri sürdüğü zaman kendine göre haklı. Fakat bizim Türkiye'de özellikle topraklarımızın içerisinde 'Biz Kürtler adına ortadayız' diye çıkan bir PKK terör örgütü var. Keşmir olayının içerisinde böyle bir durum yok. Dolayısıyla böyle bir terör örgütü veyahut da karşımızda böyle bir devlet söz konusu değil. Ama Keşmir olayında Pakistan devleti var, öbür tarafta Hindistan var. Bizim burada ise bir terör örgütü PKK var, PYD var, öbür tarafta YPG var. Bunlar asla birbirine benzer şeyler değildir, böyle bir yanlışın içerisine de düşmezsek isabet olur."

Main points: Turkey has no problem with her Kurdish folks. It has a terrorism problem with a terrorist org PKK. In case of Kashmir it's a dispute between two countries which think that they are right on their respective perspectives. In Kashmir issue no such terrorist organizations exist.

 

[Pak.one]

Ok. For six decades you were ahead of India in per capita income. Now India has left you behind. Take the challenge and overtake us. Like quotes on our highway trucks: "Dum hai to pass kar, warna bardasht kar".

Is this quote also in urdu ? I think hindi is your mother language.then why uses enemy Pakistan's language in quote, songs,movies why you feel shame using your own language.? Now don't ask these words are from hindi

 

[Pak.one]

Turkey yesterday : Kashmir is of pakistan, india must vacate.
Turkey today : India and pakistan must discuss and sort it out amongst themselves, we have no say.
Turkey tommorrow : Kashmir is of india, pakistan must vacate.

Ohhh indians and wet dreams of supa pawa ...keep dreaming.

 

[Pak.one]

Here are what appeared in the Turkish newspapers from the interview with the Indian channel WION. I am giving Turkish excerpts and the main points in English as I have understood.
Question on Kashmir:
"Bu, her iki ülkenin de aslında üzüntü duyduğu bir konudur. Tabii bunların aşılması bana göre dünya barışına önemli bir katkı sağlayacaktır. Yaklaşık 70 yıldır çözülemeyen bu sorunu çözmek, inanıyorum ki her iki ülkenin de lehine olacaktır. Bunları uzatmak ve bu sorunun geleceğe yönelik bedelini gelecek nesillere ödetmek doğru değildir diye düşünüyorum ve Keşmir bölge halklarının da refahı yanında Güney Asya'da istikrar ve güvenliği de olumsuz yönde etkiliyor ve biz bunu istemiyoruz. İstediğimiz tek şey var. Biz dost kazanacağız ve dostlarımızı artıracağız. Bu bölgede Hindistan bizim dostumuz, Pakistan da bizim dostumuz. Ayrıca, bizim kadim dostluğumuzu perçinleyen bazı şeyler var. Nedir? Örneğin dini noktada Hindistan'la da bizim dostluğun yanında aynı şekilde Müslüman kardeşlerimiz var, Pakistan'da da bizim Müslüman kardeşlerimiz var. Bizim hepsiyle bu diyaloğumuzu onları bir köprü kılmak vasıtasıyla geliştirmemizde büyük faydalar olduğuna özellikle inanıyorum. Bakın daha fazla can kaybına fırsat vermeden özellikle ikili diyalogları ki çoklu diyaloga da girebilir bu, bizler bu konularda devreye girebiliriz, bu diyaloglar vasıtasıyla bence bu sorunu çözmenin ve ortadan bu sorunu kaldırmanın her iki ülkeye de faydasının çok çok büyük olacağına inanıyorum."

Main points: If India and Pak can solve this 70 year Kashmir problem, which negatively affect the stability, peace and welfare of the South Asia, it'll be beneficial for both of them. They need to start a dialogue and may expand it with more participants to solve this problem without more loss of life and leaving it simmering for the next generations. Turkey is a friend to both countries since both of them have Muslim brothers, and can enter into the expanded dialogue as a bridge.

On question to compare Kurdish and Kashmir problems:

"Şimdi bakın bunlar birbirine benzer halde kıyaslarsak yanlış yaparız. Şimdi bizim Türkiye'de Kürt vatandaşlarımızla sorunumuz yok, bunu birbirine karıştırmayalım. Bizim bir terör örgütüyle sorunumuz var, anlatabiliyor muyum? Yani şu anda Keşmir sorunuyla alakalı konu bu değil. Orada bir defa farklı bir olay var, orada toprak sorununa varıncaya kadar birçok sorunlar var. Dolayısıyla Pakistan kendi tezlerini devlet olarak ileri sürdüğü zaman kendine göre haklı, Hindistan kendi tezini ileri sürdüğü zaman kendine göre haklı. Fakat bizim Türkiye'de özellikle topraklarımızın içerisinde 'Biz Kürtler adına ortadayız' diye çıkan bir PKK terör örgütü var. Keşmir olayının içerisinde böyle bir durum yok. Dolayısıyla böyle bir terör örgütü veyahut da karşımızda böyle bir devlet söz konusu değil. Ama Keşmir olayında Pakistan devleti var, öbür tarafta Hindistan var. Bizim burada ise bir terör örgütü PKK var, PYD var, öbür tarafta YPG var. Bunlar asla birbirine benzer şeyler değildir, böyle bir yanlışın içerisine de düşmezsek isabet olur."

Main points: Turkey has no problem with her Kurdish folks. It has a terrorism problem with a terrorist org PKK. In case of Kashmir it's a dispute between two countries which think that they are right on their respective perspectives. In Kashmir issue no such terrorist organizations exist.

Bro hakikat tell these indians that in last answer they said there is no terrorist organization in Kashmir, it means they accept they kashmiri freedom fighters are right.[emoji12]

 

[Sankpal]

Thanks but Turkey president have to mind their business. we don't need your advise..... all Indian think like that way only