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After mentioning India last July among three countries to which the Sukhoi Su-35 would be pitched for export, sources reveal that Rosoboronexport has now formalised an offer to the Indian government. The United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) is understood to have conveyed officially to the Indian government just days ahead of the MAKS 2009 aero-show at Zhukovsky that India has the option of purchasing 16-20 Su-35 fighters -- about a squadron's worth. According to the offer, the production would be prioritised along with the Russian order for 48 jets, a deal that was finally struck once the show opened, but had obviously been finalised many weeks ago. The air forces of Brazil and Venezuela are also considering options with involving unspecified numbers of the Su-35.
:toast_sign: Very Sensible as SU35BM can be maintained and supported by the existing SU30MKI infrastructure. A good way arrest the declining numbers for IAF. Advanced avionics and airframe ensures that Su35BM remains the top dog sukhoi for now.
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ALSO does any one knows how to put an indian flag in the replies , there are chinese/pak/usa flags but no indian ????
 
well i belive if indian can work on fifth generation fighter with russia, then why not su 35BM, this may also incraese the chances of mig35 for MMRCA deal.
regards
 
well i belive if indian can work on fifth generation fighter with russia, then why not su 35BM, this may also incraese the chances of mig35 for MMRCA deal.
regards
Both are unlikely, because both don't offer much that MKI wouldn't already offer. Also the MKI is very close in techs to Su 35 and double seated, which fits IAF doctrine more. So there is no real need for IAF to get them too.
 
isn't the mki similar to the su-35?
can anyone elaborate on that?The flanker series confuses me..
 
isn't the mki similar to the su-35?
can anyone elaborate on that?The flanker series confuses me..

Yes I believe they are quite similar...other than all the Israeli/French gizmos on the MKI..I believe the main difference in a better engine on the Su-35.And if I am not wrong..the upgradation path for the MKI involves using these engines down the road. Also the SU-35 is a single seater craft.

IMO it is a waste to buy the SU-35....
 
isn't the mki similar to the su-35?
can anyone elaborate on that?The flanker series confuses me..
Here from the official website

A new aircraft with an old name

The Su-35 has long been a brand name in the aviation world. Since 1992, an export version of the Su-27 fighter (created under the order of the Russian Air Force) has been demonstrated at international air shows. At the turn of the millennium, Su-35 fighters participated in the tenders of Korean and Brazilian air forces. By the mid-decade of the new century, a general concept emerged of a considerably modified Su-27 fighter, which retained the name of Su-35.

What is new in the Su-35? First off, the fighter will get an improved airframe, which will dramatically increase its service life to 6,000 hours, 30 years of operation (the time before the first test and recondition and the between-repairs period has been increased to 1,500 hours, or 10 years of operation). Aerodynamically it is similar to the Su-27. But unlike the Su-30MKI it will feature no canard fins. All the three channels will have electrically signaled control without mechanical cabling. The use of a new integrated control system (developed by MNPK Avionika Moscow-based Research and Production Association) simultaneously performing functions of several systems – remote control, automatic control, limiting signals system, air signals system, chassis wheels braking system – will enhance the fighter’s handling capability and maneuverability.

Among the Su-35 design features, worth of note is the absence of an overhead brake flap, a standard characteristic of the Su-27. Its functions are performed by an active rudder. The Su-35 chassis has been reinforced because of the increased takeoff and landing weight of the aircraft. For the same reason, the front bearing has two wheels. The improved radar stealth reduces the reflectance of the Su-35 in the X radio waveband and in the angle range of ±60°.

The “heart” of the aircrsft

Another important difference of the Su-35 from predecessors from the Su-27 family is the use, in its power plant, of new engines with an increased thrust. Those engines, known as 117S, have been developed by NPO Saturn Research and Production Association.

In terms of engineering, the engines are substantially modified AL-31F production engines employing fifth-generation technologies. They use a new fan, new high and low pressure turbines, and a new digital control system. A provision is made for using a vectored thrust nozzle. The modernization has increased the engine special mode thrust by 16%, up to 14,500 kgf. In the maximum burner-free mode it reaches 8,800 kgf. Compared to today’s AL-31F engines, their capabilities will grow substantially, by 2 to 2.7 times. For instance, the between-repair period will grow from 500 to 1,000 hours (the operating period before the first overhaul is 1,500 hours). The designed period will vary between 1,500 and 4,000 hours.

The 117S engines will be co-produced by Ufa-based Motor Building Association and Rybinsk-based NPO Saturn Research and Production Association. The first production 117S engines were delivered to KnAAPO in early 2007 for testing on the first experimental Su-35 aircraft.

New onboard systems

The distinctive feature of Su-35 is the employment of a new suite of onboard instruments. Its core is the information management system (IMS), which integrates functional, logical, informational and software subsystems into a single complex that ensures the interaction between the crew and equipment. The IMS includes two central digital computers, commutation and information devices and an indication system built on the “all-glass cockpit” concept.

The core of the Su-35 cockpit instrumentation suite are two full-color multi-function liquid crystal displays of MFI type, a multi-function panel with a built-in display processor, a wide angle collimatory display on the windshield and a control and indication panel.

MFI multi-function displays with a built-in processor measure 9 x 12 inches (diagonal 15 inches) and have a resolution of 1400x1050 pixels. They are intended for reception, processing and production, in a multiple window mode, of graphic, numeric, alphabetic and symbolic information. They also present televised information received from onboard TV sensors and impose on it synthesized numeric, alphabetic and symbolic information. Besides, they produce and send video signals in a digital format to the video record unit. The multi-function panel with a built-in display processor presents the required information and issues commands by pushing the buttons on the button array at any time in flight. The airborne collimatory display with a built-in processor monitors the space beyond the cockpit. The information is processed by control signals. The collimator angle of view is 20x30о.

The onboard systems and armament in the new cockpit of Su-35 are controlled by buttons and switches on the aircraft control joystick and engine control levers as well as by a button array on multi-function displays. Thus the HOTAS concept is realized on this type of aircraft. The displays and some other avionics systems of Su-35 are developed by Instrument Design Bureau of Ramenskoye and affiliated companies of Tekhnokompleks Research and Production Association.

“Eyes and ears”

The core of the Su-35 armament is a new radar control system with a phased antenna array (Irbis-E). It features unique capabilities in terms of the target detection range. This is a development V V Tikhomirov Research Institute of Instrument Production. In design, this is an X-waveband multi-role radar with a passive phased antenna array (PAA) mounted on a two-step hydraulic drive unit (in azimuth and roll). The antenna device scans by an electronically controlled beam in azimuth and angle of elevation in sectors not smaller than 60°. The two-step electro-hydraulic drive unit additionally turns the antenna by mechanic means to 60° in azimuth and 120° in roll. Thus, in using the electronic control and mechanical additional turn of the antenna, the maximum deflection angle of the beam grows to 120°.

Irbis-E radar control system detects and tracks up to 30 air targets, retaining continuity of space observation and engaging up to eight targets. The system detects, chooses and tracks up to four ground targets in several map-making modes with various resolution at a range of up to 400 km, without stopping to monitor the airspace.

Irbis-E radar detects air targets with an absolute cross section of 3 m2 on a head-on course at a range of up to 400 km.

Being an improvement on radars with a PAA, Irbis has much better capabilities: expanded (by more than twice) operating frequency band, increased from 70о to 120о target detection and tracking zone in azimuth, substantially (by 2-2.5 times) increased effective range, improved anti-jamming capability, etc. In this aspect, Irbis is comparable to the best foreign counterparts, outperforming most of the US- and Wes-European-made radars with passive and active PAA.

The Research Institute has been developing Irbis since 2004. By now, the engineering prototypes of the system have passed the required bench trials. The first of them has been installed on the Su-30MK2 flying laboratory and is undergoing flight tests. The first flight of the flying laboratory with Irbis onboard occurred in early 2007 at Gromov Flight Test Institute. During the flight, the laboratory proved the superior performance of the new radar in the air-to-surface operating mode.

Among other new onboard systems of the Su-35 is modern navigation and radio communication equipment, systems maintaining fighters operation in a formation and a highly efficient electronic countermeasures suite. The component package of the latter and its complementation with specific jamming devices can be determined by the customer.

Armament

In addition to the armaments onboard the modern Su-30MK, it is planned to additionally arm the Su-35 with new types of air-to-air and air-to-surface guided missiles, including long-range types. The maximum ordnance load of the Su-35 is 8,000 kg. This is placed in 12 weapon stations.
 
isn't the mki similar to the su-35?
can anyone elaborate on that?The flanker series confuses me..
The Flankers are similar in role, class, main parts of the airframe, weapons and payload, but there are several differences.
The early Su 27 single and double seat air superiority fighter were improved to single seat Su 35 and double seat Su 30 MK multi role fighters. The MK version was mainly an export version, because Russia was not interested in double seat tandem fighters and also developed a special ground attack version with side by side seats, the Su 34.
Even though it is often said Chinas Su 30 MKK and Indias MKI are based on on the same MK version, imo it would be better to say the MKI is a tandem seated Su 35, because key features like canards, Bars PESA radar, AL 31 engines with 2D TVC are clearly of the Su 37 Terminator (an experimental prototype of the Su 35)! It was also further customised with Indian, French and Israeli avionics and can carry Indian weapons too.
Russia went on with the Su 35 and improved it to the Su 35BM, which is the latest standard with the features that Ironman pointed out in his post.
If you want you can say, Russia improved and specialised their Flankers to less RCS and for different roles. The Su 35BM mainly for air combats and the Su 34 mainly for ground attacks, whereas the MKI was a customized development in between to fit in both roles and for the needs of IAF.

MKI most likely will get the same Saturn S117 engine with 3D TVC, possibly a common internal weapon bay and air intake changes to reduce RCS.
At the end there won't be much advantages than less RCS compared to MKI, but it still will be much bigger than compared to some MMRCA contenders.
 
After mentioning India last July among three countries to which the Sukhoi Su-35 would be pitched for export, sources reveal that Rosoboronexport has now formalised an offer to the Indian government. The United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) is understood to have conveyed officially to the Indian government just days ahead of the MAKS 2009 aero-show at Zhukovsky that India has the option of purchasing 16-20 Su-35 fighters -- about a squadron's worth. According to the offer, the production would be prioritised along with the Russian order for 48 jets, a deal that was finally struck once the show opened, but had obviously been finalised many weeks ago. The air forces of Brazil and Venezuela are also considering options with involving unspecified numbers of the Su-35.
:toast_sign: Very Sensible as SU35BM can be maintained and supported by the existing SU30MKI infrastructure. A good way arrest the declining numbers for IAF. Advanced avionics and airframe ensures that Su35BM remains the top dog sukhoi for now.
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Su-35 is capable to face any fighter in the world in case of war?


Why not get f-22 or f-35?

or our Air force has more experienced with su fighters?


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In my openion, Its better for India to spend money on pure 5th gen Stealthy FGFA istead on a 4.5 gen aircraft that is pretty similar to the one India already have. I really dont think India will go for Su35.
 
su-37 would have been a better offer :smitten:

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* It is a single seat fighter modified from the 1st generation Su-35 prototypes for thrust vector control testing.

*3D TVC but also is tough and resistant to engine surge even during classic, inverted and flat spins, giving better reliability and maneuverability.

*The number of missiles and bombs carried can be increased to 14 with the use of multi-payload racks.


but its still not fully developed ! :whistle:
 
As rightly pointed out by some, this is old news. I had reported in July 2008. Teere is little point getting excited about it because as is known to all people engaged with the defence acquisition process in the region, offers of futuristic combat planes has been made by almost all competitors in the tender. It is too late in the game really for India to cancel the MMRCA tender and opt for another version. Regards. Sandeep.

PS : My story below.


Russia offers to sell state-of-the-art strike fighter



Sandeep Dikshit

Su-35 has larger wings and more powerful engines than Sukhoi-30

Pilot can track up to 30 aerial targets while engaging eight at the same time


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NEW DELHI: Russia is ready to export state-of-the-art Su-35 air superiority-cum-strike fighter to India, said officials of Rosoboronexport, the country’s sole arms exporting company.

The fourth generation plus (4 +) fighter is rated next to the fifth generation American F-22 Raptor, which, however, is not for export. Till now, the Russians were also not keen on selling the fighter.

Su-35 has larger wings and more powerful engines than the Sukhoi-30 MKI, which is in service with the Indian Air Force, with more fighters being added at one a month.

It also uses more advanced materials for the airframe and incorporates a new-generation radar which allows the pilot to detect and track up to 30 aerial targets while engaging up to eight of them at the same time.

Russia intends exporting at least 160 Su-35 to customers of its Su-30 series.

Although India has tendered for 126 medium multirole fighters worth $10.2 billion, the offer for this aircraft, heavier in weight than the requirement, would be looked upon with interest. For, Su-35 would give the IAF a clear edge over the fighters being operated by other countries in the region.

Superior engines


According to the company, the fighter is powered by engines that are much superior to those fitted on Su-30.

It is equipped with a 30-mm cannon with 150 rounds and can carry up to eight tonnes of combat payload.

If the offer is accepted, Russia will be prepared to export the fighters in 2011, ahead of the timeline envisaged by India for the 126 medium multirole fighters.
 

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