India Is Running Out of Weapons to Deter China Due to Modi Order

[beijingwalker]

Don't forget the pork ribs!

And cow pee

 

[Catalystic]

Half of Pakistan already flooded and destroyed……now u don’t need that much equipment anyway. Besides, why use that when u can just buy our politicians with us dallars ??

 

[aviator_fan]

Technically speaking the import ban is on items like Infantry Fighting Vehicles or Towed Artillery, etc. Not on the fighter jet or submarines.

Both of these issues are there due to real bad execution of P75I and MMRCA programs.

The article doesn't make sense.

bloomberg articles make perfect sense to india when its talking about FDI and economic indicators but if its critical all of a sudden it doesn't make sense.

Yeah, with a side of torture, genocide, family separation and literal institutionalised rape.

How did Kashmir all of a sudden become part of this discussion: that would also involved forced relocation to make the indigenous population a minority.

 

[aviator_fan]

Both pkistan and China have other issues to deal with. India doesn't have to worry abt them too much. Pakistan has floods, terrorism, bankruptcy and Imran to deal with. China has covid, Xi and ccp to deal with.

India was out with a begging bowl when millions were dying. As a potential counter to China , not just entire nations but western companies were sending Oxygen concentrators, ventilators and such to reduce the misery on the population because they had employees in the country.

This idea of getting foreign help is not limited to India. South Asian countries generally tend to do that. But the scale of death in COVID of 3-5 million by all objective standards is unheard of when basic precautions could have avoided it. So that humiliation (on the back of lots of innocent lives) already took place.

China is on the opposite extreme in COVID. It won't even buy the mRNA vaccines which will put its lockdowns to an end because of national pride (opposite of India). Not only won't it take donation, it won't even buy them.

Lockdowns will continue TILL they have built their own mRNA vaccine. So unless literally you just were on an isolated island and entered the world, your holier than 'though China and Pakistan' have problems and India doesn't is a bit fabricated.

Now on to building toilets for the population that Modi did promise since more people in India don't have toilets than almost entire population of Africa. That can be locally built.

 

[GreatHanWarrior]

Its for a Chinese audience, it isn't supposed make sense

oh So you think India can now manufacture qualified rifles and bullets?

India was out with a begging bowl when millions were dying. As a potential counter to China , not just entire nations but western companies were sending Oxygen concentrators, ventilators and such to reduce the misery on the population because they had employees in the country.

This idea of getting foreign help is not limited to India. South Asian countries generally tend to do that. But the scale of death in COVID of 3-5 million by all objective standards is unheard of when basic precautions could have avoided it. So that humiliation (on the back of lots of innocent lives) already took place.

China is on the opposite extreme in COVID. It won't even buy the mRNA vaccines which will put its lockdowns to an end because of national pride (opposite of India). Not only won't it take donation, it won't even buy them.

Lockdowns will continue TILL they have built their own mRNA vaccine. So unless literally you just were on an isolated island and entered the world, your holier than 'though China and Pakistan' have problems and India doesn't is a bit fabricated.

Now on to building toilets for the population that Modi did promise since more people in India don't have toilets than almost entire population of Africa. That can be locally built.

wait! India is not begging China to provide oxygen generator???

 

[GreatHanWarrior]

Both pkistan and China have other issues to deal with. India doesn't have to worry abt them too much. Pakistan has floods, terrorism, bankruptcy and Imran to deal with. China has covid, Xi and ccp to deal with.

really. As a superpower 2022. India just needs to address the issue of "flooding of corpses in the Ganges". Worse Human Development Index. Severe hunger and malnutrition. no toilet and running water....

Let's look forward to a $5 trillion economy by 2025.

You are doing a lot in Uyghurstan. Keep going. Pak backs you there.

indeed. Xinjiang's per capita GDP is $9000+. India's GDP per capita is $3000+ (look, I even helped India "raise" GDP per capita).

 

[Chat SAMOSA]

India was out with a begging bowl when millions were dying. As a potential counter to China , not just entire nations but western companies were sending Oxygen concentrators, ventilators and such to reduce the misery on the population because they had employees in the country.

This idea of getting foreign help is not limited to India. South Asian countries generally tend to do that. But the scale of death in COVID of 3-5 million by all objective standards is unheard of when basic precautions could have avoided it. So that humiliation (on the back of lots of innocent lives) already took place.

China is on the opposite extreme in COVID. It won't even buy the mRNA vaccines which will put its lockdowns to an end because of national pride (opposite of India). Not only won't it take donation, it won't even buy them.

Lockdowns will continue TILL they have built their own mRNA vaccine. So unless literally you just were on an isolated island and entered the world, your holier than 'though China and Pakistan' have problems and India doesn't is a bit fabricated.

Now on to building toilets for the population that Modi did promise since more people in India don't have toilets than almost entire population of Africa. That can be locally built.

What 3 to 5 million? The extrapolated bs WHO model already been disproven by exposing the faulty modeling they used. While talking about WHO, thanks for reminding me, CCP's reluctance to open investigation into the Wuhan virus is proof enough for their irresponsible attitude and incompetence.

That attitude and incompetence continues with Xi not wanting to admit his foolish decision of sticking to crap vaccine and not importing working ones from the west or India. Poor Chinese people are paying with their intolerable life in tyranny and lockdowns.

Re toilets. Sure India will share toilet designs with you...or as usual you can just steal them. Just check with your CCP goons if they want just designs or also user manuals

 

[etylo]

India was out with a begging bowl when millions were dying. As a potential counter to China , not just entire nations but western companies were sending Oxygen concentrators, ventilators and such to reduce the misery on the population because they had employees in the country.

This idea of getting foreign help is not limited to India. South Asian countries generally tend to do that. But the scale of death in COVID of 3-5 million by all objective standards is unheard of when basic precautions could have avoided it. So that humiliation (on the back of lots of innocent lives) already took place.

China is on the opposite extreme in COVID. It won't even buy the mRNA vaccines which will put its lockdowns to an end because of national pride (opposite of India). Not only won't it take donation, it won't even buy them.

Lockdowns will continue TILL they have built their own mRNA vaccine. So unless literally you just were on an isolated island and entered the world, your holier than 'though China and Pakistan' have problems and India doesn't is a bit fabricated.

Now on to building toilets for the population that Modi did promise since more people in India don't have toilets than almost entire population of Africa. That can be locally built.

Talk of nonsense indian all the time, chinese vaccines are good enough now. Its just your indian vaccines are pile of crap, you indians all got antibody after last years mass infections in you pop, so dont BS how good are your vaccines in fighting the pandemic. Chinese dont need western crap such as pfzier which has serious side effects including death esp for old people. So stop bitching about chinese pandemic meaures all the time, you indians should find something better to do.

If you are a pakistani then, dont forget that pakistan got majority of its vaccines for the population from chinese vaccines. If chinese vaccines are indeed crap as you think, then why all the people in pakistan innoculated with chinese vaccines are well protected and effective, and there are no major outbreak or pandemic in pakistan for long time ?

China is taking extreme measures to curb the infections is becos chinese wont tolerate minute outbreak of the virus that has the potential to damage a number of people. Its not that chinese vaccines are not effective, there are still 10% of the pop numbering 140 m who are not vaccinated yet.

China COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker​

Since the outbreak of the pandemic, China has committed to making its COVID-19 vaccines a global public good. On multiple occasions, high-level Chinese officials have declared that China is fulfilling this pledge by exporting and donating its COVID-19 vaccines to as many countries that it can. This has generated a great deal of interest and discussion amongst experts from various fields. As an independent, mission-driven consultancy that tracks China’s impact on global health, Bridge Consulting aims to examine and offer a comprehensive picture of China’s vaccine outreach, hopefully enabling more informed discussions on this issue worldwide.
Read more about our methodology here.

1.90B (+0M) DOSES SOLD​

270M (+0M) DOSES DONATED​

1.61B (+0M) DOSES DELIVERED​

Updated as of 12:00 am (GMT+8), September 4 2022.

Tracking China’s COVID-19 Vaccine Distribution - Bridge Consulting

Examining China's Promise to Make Its Vaccines A Global Public Good

bridgebeijing.com

 

[TopGun786]

Both pkistan and China have other issues to deal with. India doesn't have to worry abt them too much. Pakistan has floods, terrorism, bankruptcy and Imran to deal with. China has covid, Xi and ccp to deal with.

Yes, we are happy you can close your eyes like a pigeon now.

 

[etylo]

What 3 to 5 million? The extrapolated bs WHO model already been disproven by exposing the faulty modeling they used. While talking about WHO, thanks for reminding me, CCP's reluctance to open investigation into the Wuhan virus is proof enough for their irresponsible attitude and incompetence.

That attitude and incompetence continues with Xi not wanting to admit his foolish decision of sticking to crap vaccine and not importing working ones from the west or India. Poor Chinese people are paying with their intolerable life in tyranny and lockdowns.

Re toilets. Sure India will share toilet designs with you...or as usual you can just steal them. Just check with your CCP goons if they want just designs or also user

Talk of nonsense indian all the time, chinese vaccines are good enough now. Its just your indian vaccines are pile of crap, you indians all got antibody after last years mass infections in you pop, so dont BS how good are your vaccines in fighting the pandemic. Chinese dont need western crap such as pfzier which has serious side effects including death esp for old people. So stop bitching about chinese pandemic meaures all the time, you indians should find something better to do. The viruse is called indian delta viruse now, not wuhan viruse, the WHO had went twice into wuhan lab to investigate already and they couldnt find nothing wrong, china is not going to let you idiot to peek into chinese facilities any time all the time you want, no soveign country will let you do that. Its time for the WHO to stand up to US bully and pressure to investigate the early outbreak of the viruse in the US predating Wuhan outbreak and the irresponsible handling of the indian delta viruse outbreak in india by indians that led to the widespread of the viruse to the world.

China COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker​

Since the outbreak of the pandemic, China has committed to making its COVID-19 vaccines a global public good. On multiple occasions, high-level Chinese officials have declared that China is fulfilling this pledge by exporting and donating its COVID-19 vaccines to as many countries that it can. This has generated a great deal of interest and discussion amongst experts from various fields. As an independent, mission-driven consultancy that tracks China’s impact on global health, Bridge Consulting aims to examine and offer a comprehensive picture of China’s vaccine outreach, hopefully enabling more informed discussions on this issue worldwide.
Read more about our methodology here.

1.90B (+0M) DOSES SOLD​

270M (+0M) DOSES DONATED​

1.61B (+0M) DOSES DELIVERED​

Updated as of 12:00 am (GMT+8), September 4 2022.

Tracking China’s COVID-19 Vaccine Distribution - Bridge Consulting

Examining China's Promise to Make Its Vaccines A Global Public Good

bridgebeijing.com

 

[siegecrossbow]

Sounds like some people in the military wants kickbacks from foreign arms deals again.

 

[Hindustani78]

And cow pee

Sifle Cult who doesn't follow Vedas !!!

Half of Pakistan already flooded and destroyed……now u don’t need that much equipment anyway. Besides, why use that when u can just buy our politicians with us dallars ??

How Many Foreign Made Missile Interceptors and Radars have been destroyed ???

What about Air Bases and Helicopter Hangers ???

Half of Pakistan already flooded and destroyed……now u don’t need that much equipment anyway. Besides, why use that when u can just buy our politicians with us dallars ??

How Many Foreign Made Missile Interceptors and Radars have been destroyed ???

What about Air Bases and Helicopter Hangers ???

wait! India is not begging China to provide oxygen generator???

Hoocha wasn't enough that Union of India - Establishment Authority will ask for Oxygen Generator !!!

 

[Hindustani78]

bloomberg articles make perfect sense to india when its talking about FDI and economic indicators but if its critical all of a sudden it doesn't make sense.

That is not working anymore !!!

Critical Technology will not shared by Indians !!!

How did Kashmir all of a sudden become part of this discussion: that would also involved forced relocation to make the indigenous population a minority.

That will even not work out, Colonizers are senses trouble everywhere !!!

Hindustan Zindabad !!! Sarkar e Khalsa Zindabad !!!

 

[Abdul Rehman Majeed]

India Is Running Out of Weapons to Deter China Due to Modi Order​

• Military cannot replace old equipment as imports are banned
• Accidents involving aging fighters, helicopters lead to deaths

By Sudhi Ranjan Sen
2022年9月8日 GMT+8 08:30

Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s push to boost domestic manufacturing of defense systems is leaving India vulnerable to persistent threats from China and Pakistan, according to officials with knowledge of the matter.

India’s air force, army, and navy can no longer import some critical weapons systems to replace aging ones, the officials said. That risks leaving India critically short of helicopters by 2026 and with a shortfall of hundreds of fighter jets by 2030, they said.

Shortly after sweeping to power in 2014, Modi unveiled his “Make in India” policy to build everything from mobile phones to fighter jets in India to generate jobs and reduce outflows of foreign exchange. But eight years later the world’s biggest importer of military hardware still doesn’t manufacture enough weapons locally to meet its needs -- and government rules are blocking imports.

Modi’s program mandates between 30% to 60% of home-made components, depending on the nature of the military purchase or where it’s purchased from. There were no such caps earlier and India used a system of plowing back a certain percentage of the cost of the purchase into domestic manufacturing.

As things stand, India’s military readiness is set to further deteriorate just as it faces greater risks from Pakistan and China, which has soldiers deployed toe-to-toe against troops from India along their Himalayan border following deadly clashes in 2020. The weaker air force in particular means India will need twice the number of soldiers on the ground to deter aggression along the Chinese border, one person said.

Bloomberg spoke to multiple officials for this story across the three services in India. They asked not to be identified to discuss sensitive issues.

India’s Ministry of Defense did not respond to an email seeking comments.

While India’s military has increased local purchases of some defense items, the country doesn’t yet produce complex platforms like diesel-electric submarines and twin-engine fighters. Plans to buy fighters from foreign manufacturers were shelved because the Modi government wants the air force to opt for indigenously made single–engine fighters, which are in short supply, as well as twin-engine fighter planes that the country doesn’t yet have in production.

The situation with the air force is particularly dire. By 2030, the Indian Air Force maybe left with less than 30 fighter squadrons, well below the 42 the military says it needs to adequately protect borders with both China and Pakistan, officials said. Between now and then, the air force will be forced to ground about half-a-dozen squadrons -- each including 16 to 18 fighter jets -- that will reach the end of their flying life, one official said.


The Bengaluru-based state-owned defense manufacturer Hindustan Aeronautics Limited can only produce eight indigenous Tejas fighters each year, officials said, or roughly half a squadron. The company plans to double manufacturing capacity by 2026, they added, but delays are possible due to supply-chain disruptions caused by Russia’s war in Ukraine.

Tense Border​

Helicopters are another problem. The air force, army and navy still depend on light helicopters designed and developed in France more than half a century ago and inducted in the 1970s. Almost 80% of India’s fleet of choppers has already outlived their lifespan of 30 years, a defense ministry official said.

Most of the army’s fleet of single-engine choppers will have to be grounded by 2026 even though domestically made light helicopters aren’t likely to be ready before the end of 2030, one defense official said. A plan to manufacture Russian Kamov-226T helicopters hasn’t materialized yet because of disagreements over costs and the amount of indigenous components to be included.

Indian Air Force personnel walk next to a helicopter that crashed while attempting to land in a village in Allahabad, Uttar Pradesh, in 2017.
Photographer: Sanjay Kanojia/AFP/Getty Images

Last year the Indian Army advised the Defense Ministry to ignore Modi’s import bans and buy a few dozen much-needed utility helicopters, an official said. Both the air force and army are also making contingency plans and extending the lives of the existing aging platforms, said officials.

Flying the old helicopters is costing lives. According to records with the parliament until last December, 31 soldiers were killed and another 19 injured in accidents involving military helicopters since 2017.

The navy is also facing problems over the push to use home-grown equipment. India’s submarine fleet is dependent on a limited number of heavyweight torpedoes it had bought four decades ago.

India’s Defence and Development Research Organisation is working on a plan to make submarine launched, heavy-weight torpedoes but there is no specific time-line for when they will be ready for use.

Modi’s import substitution plans don’t take into account the fact that developing world-class weapon systems requires billions of dollars in investment and years of research, said Rahul Bedi, a New Delhi-based independent defense analyst. Moreover, even Indian defense platforms such as the light combat aircraft or tanks have roughly 50% imported components, he added.

“Make in India for defense isn’t thought through properly,” Bedi said. “It is a good slogan, beyond that there isn’t much to show as yet.”

India Is Running Out of Weapons to Deter China Due to Modi Order

Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s push to boost domestic manufacturing of defense systems is leaving India vulnerable to persistent threats from China and Pakistan, according to officials with knowledge of the matter.

www.bloomberg.com

Great opportunity for China and Pakistan to attack India.

 

[Hindustani78]

Sounds like some people in the military wants kickbacks from foreign arms deals again.

American Military Secret Parties along with Chinese Military !!!

Great opportunity for China and Pakistan to attack India.

Floods have devastated Pakistan Military !!! How many Interceptor Missiles and Radars have been lost ???

Seems again Upper Hand for Afghans, Baloch, Arabs and Indians !!! Seems this time more than 100,000 Trained Soldiers are inside the Disputed Territory !!!