India is just like Pakistan, say reality show contestants (from Pakistan)

[SpArK]

Obviously my ancestors migrated from Bharat but that was 6 decades ago. The day we crossed the border, the day we left India we were no more Indians. We had a new identity which we consider as different from Indians. The Pakistani identity which we choose ourselves. Nobody kicked us out of India it was our decision to leave India and to give up our identity with India. Now we have an identity which is called as Pakistani and that identity we all Pakistanis believe is different from Bharat.

Hope you got my point.

6 decade is 60 years. So its at the most 1 generation back.

I agree that the Mujahirs have been loyal to Pakistan and rejected India before moving to the new country.

But the genetics didnt change , only the location changed.

 

[Areesh]

Yes - once again. Since the language was used, obviously the alphabet was used too.

You got to do some search on google with these keywords. Urdu, Urdu history, Beginning of Urdu.

Wiki might help you in the start.

Urdu...Wikpedia

 

[MilesTogo]

 

[Kinetic]

Like come one Bharati. The news isn't confirmed. Check the respective thread for it.

Now you will have speculations over the 'confirmation' the news!!

Even if it is true what difference does it make. Their are thousands of thousands Pakistanis living in USA or other countries. If among thousands of Pakistanis living in USA if 5 or 10 or even 50 Pakistanis pose as Bharatis what is the fuss over it. Their are thousands others who are sucessful and pose them as Pakistanis which they are.

It really makes difference, specially from your perspectives of dissimilarities.

Do your eyes read selective posts or can't you read the posts of some of the Bharatis on this thread.

And about Pakistanis being different it is your Bharati brother who are shouting when we say we aren't same like you. Why don't you tell them to shut up and leave this thread.

I think they didn't say that Pakistanis and Indians are same but we belongs to same culture and land of pre-partition India.

 

[nForce]

My bad. Where in Bom are you? The traffic is driving me insane.

No.You in fact did a good thing explaining the word.As I said,I was just interested to know whether the Pakistani forum member using that word really knows what it literally means or not???

I used to stay in Andheri-East before.Nice place to stay in my opinion,but I needed some what more quite a place to stay.So I shifted to Royal Palms in Goregaon-East.I like to wake up when morning sun falls on the face and not by the honking of Car horns....

 

[Areesh]

6 decade is 60 years. So its at the most 1 generation back.

I agree that the Mujahirs have been loyal to Pakistan and rejected India before moving to the new country.

But the genetics didnt change , only the location changed.

It wasn't just the change of location. It was an exodus based on religion and based for a new identity. Our decision to leave India was clear that we gave up our identity with India and want a new identity named as Pakistan which is different from our previous identity.

The migration from India to Pakistan was more based on religion than cultural or social similarities.

 

[kashith]

man ....thank god you are not like us.I dont know why you people have an identity crisis what would you lose by acknowledging that few score years back we had same ancestors.

 

[MilesTogo]

Urdu History - Read Item 38 in the link below

Dr.Tariq Rahman Official web Page

 

[kashith]

6 decade is 60 years. So its at the most 1 generation back.

I agree that the Mujahirs have been loyal to Pakistan and rejected India before moving to the new country.

But the genetics didnt change , only the location changed.

yaar i say let them be hell bent on saying that they are not same as us,the way they are behaving and being indignant,they might have come from some alien planet..

Never seen so indignation before....

 

[Jackdaws]

so your saying that Arabic Alphabet originated from india?

@Pakistani members
Didn't i tell you guys that indians will start claiming English and Arabic as their own

Nope. Turkish written in Roman script it is still Turkish - similarly Urdu or Punjabi written in Persian or Arabic script is still Indian. I am not claiming Arabic as an Indian language - nor am I claiming its script to be Indian. But Urdu is Indian, not Arabic. Are you claiming Urdu originated in Arabia or Persia?

 

[nForce]

Sometimes it really hits me...One man who in his own personal life is more Christian than a Muslim,decides that there should be a separate Muslim state in the region and triggers one of the greatest exodus in history forcing millions of people to leave their home and property and life,irrespective of whether they actually wanted it or not.........

 

[SpArK]

It wasn't just the change of location. It was an exodus based on religion and based for a new identity. Our decision to leave India was clear that we gave up our identity with India and want a new identity named as Pakistan which is different from our previous identity.

The migration from India to Pakistan was more based on religion than cultural or social similarities.

Surely the identity has changed. Its like a Belorussian saying we have nothing common with Russia even though both were part of larger USSR not so long before. New nation brings new nationalities but what has changed in regards to geographical area a little more than 60 years ago.

The place was commonly called British India. The land got divided, 2 nations were born.

7,226,000 Muslims came to the Pakistan from India.7,249,000 Hindus and Sikhs moved to India from Pakistan and Bangladesh.

Their identity changed only from the day 1 of their independence , not before.

Ofcourse the land was different , so were the other states. You can find more common things between people of north India and Pakistan than say a south Indian.

You people speak almost the same language.

These talks of difference , identities, blah blah blahs when thought in a realisitc sense is infact are very stupid.

There are muslims in Pakistan and there are muslims in India.

They have lots of commonalities between them but they are of different nationalities. Thats the only difference.

 

[Jackdaws]

One of the Pakistani friends in my uni was a Bori Muslim - family originated in Gujarat. They spoke Gujarati but were as patriotic about Pakistan as any other Pakistani. They were comfortable in the Indian roots and their Pakistani nationality - although they were desperate to get American citizenship. Funny old world.

 

[MilesTogo]

English and Hindi actually come from the same root language and are at the similar distance from the root language. In fact Sanskrit is closer to the root language (Proto Indo Eurpoean) than English.

Urdu is a recent language that evolved in India after Muslim invasion when the local languages came in contact with Persian and Arabic. For the most part it is Hindi with words borrowed from Persian and Arabic.

The oldest names of Urdu are - "Hindi", "Hindvi", "Dihlavi", "Gujri", "Dakani".

http://www.tariqrahman.net/lanmain.htm

Read Item 38

 

[TextMiner]

It wasn't just the change of location. It was an exodus based on religion and based for a new identity. Our decision to leave India was clear that we gave up our identity with India and want a new identity named as Pakistan which is different from our previous identity.

The migration from India to Pakistan was more based on religion than cultural or social similarities.

Then why does your esteemed leader, the "torchbearer" of Muhajirs claim that the "Division of the Subcontinent was the biggest blunder in the history of Mankind"? Don't believe me, well here you go.

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Looks like some Muhajir here has some aversion for the leader of Muhajirs.