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INDIA BIGGEST Threat to Pakistan's Security :DG ISPR -- Lt. Gen Asim Bajwa

SrNair said:
Well I dont know about Pakistan or its citizens ,But in India this is a reality .A recent phenomenon just after 2008.
Suffer ?/Well I cant be sure about that .Because what happening in some 3000 km from our area is not in wild dream of our people .
But it is actually helping us because that OROP worked really well :D
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janab who care ? if you think its pakistanis duty to make indians heart soft corner you are wrong . what you think Pakistanis thought when kalbhoshan said on TV he was involved in killings of Baluchistan and Karachi ? i think common men are angry on both sides and its gov job to stop media and control over hate media compains from both sides ?you lost 196 in 2008 while here people believe RAW killed thousands of pakistanis .
 
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Imran Khan said:
janab who care ? if you think its pakistanis duty to make indians heart soft corner you are wrong . what you think Pakistanis thought when kalbhoshan said on TV he was involved in killings of Baluchistan and Karachi ? i think common men are angry on both sides and its gov job to stop media and control over hate media compains from both sides ?you lost 196 in 2008 while here people believe RAW killed thousands of pakistanis .
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Soft corner ?Of Course we had that soft corner ,that was really helpful .
Fact is you said that these hate creates a lots of resource draining to both nation .Again in Pakistan I dont know .But in ours case ,we dont see any resource draining in our side .We can develop like this for a long time .Our defence expense has fractional effect in our development.


That is where you are gravely mistaken .Because we had strong evidence in 2008 case .And it becomes very clear when US also showed same findings because 7 -8 Americans also died in there .
Things didnt stop there .Those who did that got full protection from state and continued venom spitting and took credits in that massacre .Your media reported all these facts ,not Indian media.
It was your media that reported about the lavish style of main culprit in the jail .

Indian media merely reported all these facts .And if people becomes angry because of all this ,you cant blame them .

I know we also dont like jingoism of our media .But if someone from India tries to bring a guy like him and says that he /she is a top spy of Pakistan .Our people and opposition will reject and mock them .
They will blame our agencies .
 
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Perpendicular said:
But history has something else to say about pak's security threat.
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He has said it right bruv.. Our preparedness is totally depends on the China preparation and Pakistan preparedness depends on India's preparation... and it is since our inception...
 
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Old News. Since 1948 and after then 1965 and after then 1971.

SamantK said:
biggest threat? Funding Jihadi institutes..
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Who is funding RSS? Modi ? Would you tell me please how many Terrorist organization in india remaining ?

Giving you a list- And give me the answer-


ndia - Terrorist, insurgent and extremist groups
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Jammu & Kashmir


Proscribed Terrorist/Extremist Groups
Active Terrorist/Insurgent /Separatist Groups
Inactive Terrorist/Insurgent / Separatist Groups

  1. Al Badr
  2. Al Umar Mujahideen (AuM)
  3. Dukhtaran-e-Millat (DeM)
  4. Front Organisations of Terrorist Groups Active in Jammu and Kashmir
  5. Harkat-ul Mujahideen [(HuM), previously known as Harkat-ul-Ansar (HuA)]
  6. Harkat-ul-Jehad-i-Islami(HuJI)
  7. Hizb-ul-Mujahideen (HM)
  8. Jaish-e-Mohammed (JeM)
  9. Jamait-ul-Mujahideen (JuM)
  10. Jammu and Kashmir Islamic Front (JKIF)
  11. Lashkar-e-Toiba (LeT)
  1. All Parties Hurriyat Conference (APHC)
  2. Jammu & Kashmir Liberation Front (JKLF)
  3. Lashkar-e-Jabbar (LeJ)
  4. Lashkar-e-Omar (LeO)
  5. Mutahida Jehad Council [(MJC) , also known as United Jehad Council (UJC)]
  6. Tehrik-ul-Mujahideen (TuM)
  1. Al Barq
  2. Al Jehad
  3. Al Jehad Force (AJF, combines Muslim Janbaz Force and Kashmir Jehad Force)
  4. Al Mujahid Force (AMF)
  5. Al Mustafa Liberation Fighters (AMLF)
  6. Ikhwan-ul-Mujahideen (IuM)
  7. Islami Inquilabi Mahaz (IIM)
  8. Islami Jamaat-e-Tulba (IJT)
  9. Islamic Students League (ISL)
  10. Jammu & Kashmir National Liberation Army (JNLA)
  11. Jammu & Kashmir Students Liberation Front (JSLF)
  12. Kashmir Jehad Force (KJF)
  13. Mahaz-e-Azadi
  14. Muslim Janbaz Force (MJF)
  15. Muslim Mujahideen
  16. People's League
  17. Tehrik-e-Hurriat-e-Kashmir (TeHK)
  18. Tehrik-e-Jehad (TeJ)
  19. Tehrik-e-Jehad-e-Islami (TeJI)
Total
11
6
19

Punjab


Proscribed Terrorist/Extremist Groups
Active Terrorist/Insurgent Groups
Inactive Terrorist/Insurgent Groups
In Peace Talks / ceasefire (groups/ congrolamates

  1. Babbar Khalsa International (BKI)
  2. International Sikh Youth Federation (ISYF)
  3. Khalistan Zindabad Force (KZF)
  4. Khalistan Commando Force (KCF)



  1. All-India Sikh Students Federation (AISSF)
  2. Bhindrawala Tigers Force of Khalistan (BTFK)
  3. Dashmesh Regiment (DR)
  4. Khalistan Liberation Front (KLF)
  5. Khalistan Armed Force (KAF)
  6. Khalistan Liberation Army (KLA)
  7. Khalistan Liberation Organisation (KLO)
  8. Khalistan National Army (KNA)

Total
4

8

NORTH EAST


Proscribed Terrorist/Extremist Groups
Active Terrorist/Insurgent Groups
Inactive Terrorist/Insurgent Groups
In Peace Talks / ceasefire (groups/ congrolamates
Arunachal Pradesh

  1. Nationalist Socialist Council of Nagaland-Isak-Muivah (NSCN-IM)
  2. Nationalist Socialist Council of Nagaland-Khaplang (NSCN-K)
  3. National Liberation Council of Tani Land (NLCT)
  4. Tani Land National Liberation Tigers (TLNLT)
  1. Arunachal Dragon Force (ADF)
  2. United People's Democratic Front (UPDF)

Total

4
2

Assam

Proscribed Terrorist/Extremist Groups
Active Terrorist/Insurgent Groups
Inactive Terrorist/Insurgent Groups
In Peace Talks / ceasefire (groups/ congrolamates

  1. Kamtapur Liberation Organisation (KLO)
  2. National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB)
  3. United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA)


  1. Communist Party of India-Maoist (CPI-Maoist)
  2. Harkat-ul-Mujahideen (HuM)
  3. Jamaatul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB)
  4. IK Songbijit faction of National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB-IKS)
  5. Karbi People's Liberation Tigers (KPLT)
  6. Muslim United Liberation Tigers of Assam (MULTA)
  7. United Liberation Front of Asom-Independent (ULFA-I)
  1. Adam Sena (AS)
  2. Adivasi Security Force (ASF)
  3. All Assam Adivasi Suraksha Samiti (AAASS)
  4. Barak Valley Youth Liberation Front (BVYLF)
  5. Bodo Liberation Tigers (BLT)
  6. Black Widow (BW)
  7. Bengali Tiger Force (BTF)
  8. Dimasa National Democratic Front (DNDF)
  9. Dima Halim Daogah (DHD)
  10. Dimasa National Revolutionary Front (DNRF)
  11. Gorkha Tiger Force (GTF)
  12. Harkat-ul-Jehad
  13. Harkat-ul-Mujahideen
  14. Hill Tigers Force (HTF)
  15. Islamic Liberation Army of Assam (ILAA)
  16. Islamic Sevak Sangh (ISS)
  17. Islamic United Reformation Protest of India (IURPI)
  18. Karbi National Volunteers (KNV)
  19. Karbi People's Front (KPF)
  20. Koch-Rajbongshi Liberation Organisation (KRLO)
  21. Muslim Liberation Army (MLA)
  22. Muslim Security Council of Assam (MSCA)
  23. Muslim Security Force (MSF)
  24. Muslim Tiger Force (MTF)
  25. Muslim United Liberation Front of Assam (MULFA)
  26. Muslim Volunteer Force (MVF)
  27. People’s United Liberation Front (PULF)
  28. Rabha National Security Force (RNSF)
  29. United People's Democratic Solidarity (UPDS)
  30. Rabha Viper Army (RVA)
  31. Revolutionary Muslim Commandos (RMC)
  32. Tiwa National Revolutionary Force (TNRF)
  33. United Liberation Front of Barak Valley United Liberation Militia of Assam (ULMA)
  34. United Muslim Liberation Front of Assam (UMLFA)
  35. United Democratic Liberation Army (UDLA)
  36. United Liberation Front of Barak Valley (ULFBV)
  1. Adivasi Cobra Force (ACF) also known as Adivasi Cobra Military of Assam (ACMA)
  2. Adivasi People’s Army (APA)
  3. All Adivasi National Liberation Army (AANLA)
  4. Birsa Commando Force (BCF)
  5. Hmar People's Convention- Democracy (HPC-D)
  6. Kuki Liberation Army (KLA)
  7. Karbi Longri North Cachar Hills Liberation Front (KLNLF)
  8. Kuki Revolutionary Army (KRA)
  9. National Santhal Liberation Army (NSLA)
  10. Pro-Talks faction of United Liberation Front of Asom (ULFA-PTF)
  11. Ranjan Daimary faction of National Democratic Front of Bodoland (NDFB-RD)
  12. Santhal Tiger Force (STF)
  13. United Kukigram Defence Army (UKDA)
Total
3
7
36
13
Manipur

Proscribed Terrorist/Extremist Groups
Active Terrorist/Insurgent Groups
Inactive Terrorist/Insurgent Groups
In Peace Talks / ceasefire (groups/ congrolamates

  1. Kangleipak Communist Party (KCP)
  2. Kanglei Yawol Kanna Lup (KYKL)
  3. Manipur People’s Liberation Front (MPLF)
  4. People’s Revolutionary Party of Kangleipak (PREPAK)
  5. People’s Liberation Army (PLA)
  6. United National Liberation Front (UNLF)


  1. Coordination Committee (CorCom) [six valley based groups]
  2. Manipur Naga Revolutionary Front (MNRF)
  3. National Socialist Council of Nagaland -- Isak-Muivah (NSCN-IM)
  4. Nationalist Socialist Council of Nagaland-Khaplang (NSCN-K)
  5. People's United Liberation Front (PULF)
  6. Zeliangrong United Front (ZUF)


  1. Chin Kuki Revolutionary Front (CKRF)
  2. Hmar People's Convention (HPC)
  3. Hmar Revolutionary Front (HRF)
  4. Indigenous People's Revolutionary Alliance (IRPA)
  5. Iripak Kanba Lup (IKL)
  6. Islamic Revolutionary Front (IRF)
  7. Islamic National Front (INF)
  8. Kangleipak Kanba Kanglup (KKK)
  9. Kangleipak Liberation Organisation (KLO)
  10. Kom Rem People's Convention (KRPC)
  11. Kuki Defence Force (KDF)
  12. Kuki Independent Army (KIA)
  13. Kuki International Force (KIF)
  14. Kuki Liberation Front (KLF)
  15. Kuki National Volunteers (KNV)
  16. Kuki Revolutionary Front (KRF)
  17. Kuki Security Force (KSF)
  18. Manipur Liberation Tiger Army (MLTA)
  19. North East Minority Front (NEMF)
  20. People's Republican Army (PRA)
  21. Revolutionary Joint Committee (RJC)
  22. United Islamic Liberation Army (UILA)
  23. United Islamic Revolutionary Army (UIRA)
  24. Zomi Revolutionary Volunteers (ZRV)
  1. Kuki National Organisation (KNO) [11 militant groups]
  2. Kangleipak Communist Party-Lamphel (KCP-Lamphel)
  3. Military Defence Force faction of Kanglei Yowel Kanna Lup (KYKL-MDF)
  4. United Revolutionary Front (URF) [five KCP militant factions]
  5. United People’s Front (UPF) [eight militant groups
  6. United People’s Party of Kangleipak (UPPK)
Total
6
6
24
6
Mizoram

Proscribed Terrorist/Extremist Groups
Active Terrorist/Insurgent Groups
Inactive Terrorist/Insurgent Groups
In Peace Talks / ceasefire (groups/ congrolamates





  1. Hmar People's Convention- Democracy (HPC-D)
  1. Bru National Liberation Front

Total
1
1
Meghalaya

Proscribed Terrorist/Extremist Groups
Active Terrorist/Insurgent Groups
Inactive Terrorist/Insurgent Groups
In Peace Talks / ceasefire (groups/ congrolamates

  1. Garo National Liberation Army (GNLA)
  1. Achik National Liberation Army (ANLA)
  2. Achick Songa An'pachakgipa Kotok (ASAK)
  3. Achik National Liberation Co-operative Army (ANLCA)
  4. Achik Tiger Force (ATF)
  5. Achik National United Force (ANUF)
  6. Hynniewtrep National Liberation Council (HNLC)
  7. Liberation of Achik Elite Force (LAEF)
  1. Achik National Volunteer Council (ANVC)
  2. Achik National Volunteer's Council - Breakaway (ANVC-B
  3. Hajong United Liberation Army (HULA)
  4. People’s Liberation Front of Meghalaya (PLF-M)
  1. United Achik Liberation Army (UALA)
Total
1
7
4
1
Nagaland

Proscribed Terrorist/Extremist Groups
Active Terrorist/Insurgent Groups
Inactive Terrorist/Insurgent Groups
In Peace Talks / ceasefire (groups/ congrolamates

  1. Federal Government of Nagaland-Non-Accordist (FGN-NA)
  2. Federal Government of Nagaland -Accordist (FGN-A)
  3. National Socialist Council of Nagaland (Khaplang) – NSCN (K)
  4. Non-Accordist faction of Naga National Council (NNC-NA)
  5. Naga National Council-Accordist (NNC-Accordist)
  1. Naga National Council (Adino) – NNC (Adino)
  2. National Socialist Council of Nagaland-Unification (NSCN-U)
  1. National Socialist Council of Nagaland (Isak-Muivah) – NSCN(IM)
  2. Nationalist Socialist Council of Nagaland-Khole-Kitovi (NSCN-KK)
  3. Nationalist Socialist Council of Nagaland-Reformation (NSCN-R)
Total
5
2
3
Tripura

Proscribed Terrorist/Extremist Groups
Active Terrorist/Insurgent Groups
Inactive Terrorist/Insurgent Groups
In Peace Talks / ceasefire (groups/ congrolamates

  1. All Tripura Tiger Force (ATTF)
  2. National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT)



  1. All Tripura Bengali Regiment (ATBR)
  2. All Tripura Bharat Suraksha Force (ATBSF)
  3. All Tripura Liberation Organisation (ATLO)
  4. All Tripura National Force (ATNF)
  5. All Tripura Volunteer Force (ATVF)
  6. Bangla Mukti Sena (BMS)
  7. National Militia of Tripura (NMT)
  8. Socialist Democratic Front of Tripura (SDFT)
  9. Tripura Armed Tribal Commando Force (TATCF)
  10. Tiger Commando Force (TCF)
  11. Tripura Defence Force (TDF)
  12. Tripura Liberation Force (TLF)
  13. Tripura Liberation Organisation Front (TLOF)
  14. Tripura Mukti Police (TMP)
  15. Tripura National Army (TNA)
  16. Tripura National Democratic Tribal Force (TNDTF)
  17. Tripura Rajya Raksha Bahini (TRRB)
  18. Tripura State Volunteers (TSV)
  19. Tripura Tribal Action Committee Force (TTACF)
  20. Tripura Tribal Democratic Force (TTDF)
  21. Tripura Tribal Sengkrak Force (TTSF)
  22. Tripura Tribal Volunteer Force (TTVF)
  23. Tripura Tribal Youth Force (TTYF)
  24. United Bengali Liberation Front (UBLF)
  25. Borok National Council of Tripura (BNCT)

  1. Biswamohan Debbarma faction of National Liberation Front of Tripura (NLFT-BM)
Total
2
25
1


Left-wing Extremist groups


Proscribed Terrorist/Extremist Groups
Active Terrorist/Insurgent Groups
Inactive Terrorist/Insurgent Groups
In Peace Talks / ceasefire (groups/ congrolamates

  1. Communist Party of India-Maoist (CPI-Maoist) all its formations and front organizations


  1. Communist Party of India-Marxist Leninist-Janashakti (CPI-ML-Janashakti)
  2. Tritiya Prastuti Committee (TPC)
  3. People's Libration Front of India (PLFI)





Total
1
3

Other Extremist Groups


Proscribed Terrorist/Extremist Groups
Active Terrorist/Insurgent Groups
Inactive Terrorist/Insurgent Groups
In Peace Talks / ceasefire (groups/ congrolamates

  1. Al-Qaida
  2. Akhil Bharat Nepali Ekta Samaj (ABNES)
  3. Deendar Anjuman
  4. Indian Mujahideen, all its formations and front organizations
  5. Islamic State/Islamic State of Iraq and Levant /Islamic State of Iraq and Syria/Daish, and all its Manifestations
  6. Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE)
  7. Students Islamic Movement of India (SIMI)
  8. Tamil Nadu Liberation Army (TNLA)
  9. Tamil National Retrieval Troops (TNRT)
  10. Organisations listed in the Schedule to the U.N. Prevention and Suppression of Terrorism (Implementation of Security Council Resolutions) Order, 2007 made under section 2 of the United Nations (Security Council) Act, 1947 and amended from time to time

  1. Asif Reza Commando Force
  2. Ranvir Sena
 
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I think the military needs to introduce lectures from our foreign offices on international diplomacy as must take courses during cadet years at Kakul.
 
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Adalbert Ada said:
In German army mid level officers have to take compulsory courses like International politics and foreign relations but sadly our leader ship is enslaved by US especially Merkel.

I am surprised to know that Pakistan army still fearing India when you have nuclear weapons with appropriate delivery systems.

As per my thinking just trying to portray Pakistan as sheep in front of the world to get more sympathy and I believe it is pathetic move.
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That is the intent behind it and sadly it will only make Pakistan look more stupid. There was a slight diplomatic upswing with the hurdles created to India's NSG bid and that seems to have gone to the Pakistani establishment's head.

as for the bold bit, considering our Chief was trained in Germany during his mid level years, I would hope that would have helped.
 
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Adalbert Ada said:
In today’s world people like and respect powerful countries and Pakistan despite having nuclear power showing the world its weakest or childish fear, your foreign office plus military elites should tell the world we are powerful country like India and we want same status.


Good to know most powerful General trained by Germans it an honor for me and all the Germans.
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https://defence.pk/threads/coas-arrives-in-germany-meets-counterpart.435727/page-2#post-8398367
 
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CorporateAffairs said:
NaMo is much more than what you can imagine ever.
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Yeah, he is a killer of thousands of his own country people.

litefire said:
Lol unlike the trigger happy guys you have in Pakistan India and its PM never gave an open threat of nuke attack on any country.
Maybe you need to follow the next general elections in India more closely to see what issues are in the center of election campaign of any PM candidate and Pakistan is certainly not in the top ten.
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:D Yeah, I remember his speeches and I remember how much I laughed on his speeches. His campaign was based on destroying Pak even after winning the elections he pretty much talks about Pak.
 
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Is it a rocket science still

I think our own stupidity we take things for granted for decades when we know the cure of issue we still do nothing

India are using things which we don't put end to it just by our stupid thinking

India as enemy will sure exploit our stupid decisions which we take decades to only point out

Examples

Entering to Afghan Soviet war
Not solving miss understanding and mistakes with Russia for decades a major player
Dependent on usa
Afghan refuges still we are thinking to return them
 
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By SHEEP you mean black sheep correct

Adalbert Ada said:
In German army mid level officers have to take compulsory courses like International politics and foreign relations but sadly our leader ship is enslaved by US especially Merkel.

I am surprised to know that Pakistan army still fearing India when you have nuclear weapons with appropriate delivery systems.

As per my thinking just trying to portray Pakistan as sheep in front of the world to get more sympathy and I believe it is pathetic move.
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Mav3rick said:
I don't consider India to be the biggest threat to Pakistan. The biggest external threat to Pakistan is NOT India!

However, India is most certainly one of the most active ones.
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Its about proxies bro, the game they playing in Afghsnistan is dangerous one as well in Balouchistan, can't say about Iran but they are in bed as well on few which relate to our security and economic security.
 
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