India Asks US Not to Give USD 860 Million Aid to Pakistan

[Salik]

The subject of this thread (and the F-16 sale) is US aid and CSF reimbursements being protested by India. This money is specifically for funding Counter terrorism operations in Pakistan and for the purchase of military hardware. Economic assistance and aid is separate, so your contention that 'this money should go towards the general public instead of generals' is flawed because military aid and assistance is specifically for military purposes.

Sir some members are providing links about India the biggest economic aid receiver. Its mixing up things. You must clear that as well.

 

[Major Sam]

Three points.

1. India is big country, whatever they do, will look big to us of course even if they're doing it normally. Their defence budget is around 2.2% of GDP. Where as defence budget of Pakistan is around 3.5%. It gives some idea and my last post with joke is more relevant.

2. Stop funding TTP and mujahideen, here we trap in cycle again. Chicken was first or egg. Please suggest ways to go out of it instead repeating it again and again.

3. If you had captured Siachen first, were you ready to demilitrize it on demdnd? For that matter can you demilitrize *** Azad Kashmir?

@WebMaster Check his flags please.

 

[RoadRunner401]

India makes the same complaint every year yet Pakistan gets the money. It will be the same this time around.

 

[Anirban]

Re

Three points.

1. India is big country, whatever they do, will look big to us of course even if they're doing it normally. Their defence budget is around 2.2% of GDP. Where as defence budget of Pakistan is around 3.5%. It gives some idea and my last post with joke is more relevant.

2. Stop funding TTP and mujahideen, here we trap in cycle again. Chicken was first or egg. Please suggest ways to go out of it instead repeating it again and again.

3. If you had captured Siachen first, were you ready to demilitrize it on demdnd? For that matter can you demilitrize *** Azad Kashmir?

Mr salik my points

1. No question of demilitarization of either Siachen or any part of Kashmir. Kashmir was acceded to India legally & is part of India. Pakistan is an occupier nation. Fact is this.

2. Yes peace can come only in 3 stages, if Pakistan agrees -

A. Pakistan should focus in Improving its economy & Educating its citizens in Modern language. Stop radicalisation education system. Stop exporting Terror to world. Stop classifying Terrorists as good and bad

B. Kashmir needs a vote to decide what they want. That should happen. However, it must happen as per UN Guidelines decided. UN guideline clearly states that Pakistan being the country to invade must withdraw to original position leaving occupied territory. Once this is done Pakistan must take steps to Pull out all families it has settled in its area of control since 1947. Only those families will remain who were there in 1947. 4.5 lakh displaced Kashmiri pandits will return along with their families. Once this is done India will pull back its military from Kashmir.
All parts of Kashmir that is Pakistan occupied territory including Gilgit baltistan, Akshai Chin, Ladakh, Kashmir valley & Jammu will participate in vote.

3. Pakistan will accept the result of vote and take it as final solution and will not raise any question in future.

If Pakistan is ready for above Peace can come ! Else if Pakistan continues exporting Terrirism... Answer will come in 2019

U

Can India mind its own business? Pushing Pakistan into a corner, what options Pakistan is left with but to retaliate and counter India. Pakistan is an obsession with India. This will destroy the region and its chances of doing well but can India understand that?

India will mind its own business the day Pakistan stops exporting Terrorisim... Pakistan should realise India had been very very patient & tolerant of its activities.. If it doesn't stops India has no option but to give people a choice & the choice is - " U want to deal with India- the world's fastest growing economy with 1.2 billion population & Democratic set up OR U want to deal with Pakistan - the terrorist exporting nation whose very existence is all about Anti - India"

I guess world will use common sense & make a choice !

 

[Salik]

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Mr salik my points

1. No question of demilitarization of either Siachen or any part of Kashmir. Kashmir was acceded to India legally & is part of India. Pakistan is an occupier nation. Fact is this.

2. Yes peace can come only in 3 stages, if Pakistan agrees -

A. Pakistan should focus in Improving its economy & Educating its citizens in Modern language. Stop radicalisation education system. Stop exporting Terror to world. Stop classifying Terrorists as good and bad

B. Kashmir needs a vote to decide what they want. That should happen. However, it must happen as per UN Guidelines decided. UN guideline clearly states that Pakistan being the country to invade must withdraw to original position leaving occupied territory. Once this is done Pakistan must take steps to Pull out all families it has settled in its area of control since 1947. Only those families will remain who were there in 1947. 4.5 lakh displaced Kashmiri pandits will return along with their families. Once this is done India will pull back its military from Kashmir.
All parts of Kashmir that is Pakistan occupied territory including Gilgit baltistan, Akshai Chin, Ladakh, Kashmir valley & Jammu will participate in vote.

3. Pakistan will accept the result of vote and take it as final solution and will not raise any question in future.

If Pakistan is ready for above Peace can come ! Else if Pakistan continues exporting Terrirism... Answer will come in 2019

U

India will mind its own business the day Pakistan stops exporting Terrorisim... Pakistan should realise India had been very very patient & tolerant of its activities.. If it doesn't stops India has no option but to give people a choice & the choice is - " U want to deal with India- the world's fastest growing economy with 1.2 billion population & Democratic set up OR U want to deal with Pakistan - the terrorist exporting nation whose very existence is all about Anti - India"

I guess world will use common sense & make a choice !

Lets hope something good comes out of nothing!!!

 

[Humble Analyst]

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Mr salik my points

1. No question of demilitarization of either Siachen or any part of Kashmir. Kashmir was acceded to India legally & is part of India. Pakistan is an occupier nation. Fact is this.

2. Yes peace can come only in 3 stages, if Pakistan agrees -

A. Pakistan should focus in Improving its economy & Educating its citizens in Modern language. Stop radicalisation education system. Stop exporting Terror to world. Stop classifying Terrorists as good and bad

B. Kashmir needs a vote to decide what they want. That should happen. However, it must happen as per UN Guidelines decided. UN guideline clearly states that Pakistan being the country to invade must withdraw to original position leaving occupied territory. Once this is done Pakistan must take steps to Pull out all families it has settled in its area of control since 1947. Only those families will remain who were there in 1947. 4.5 lakh displaced Kashmiri pandits will return along with their families. Once this is done India will pull back its military from Kashmir.
All parts of Kashmir that is Pakistan occupied territory including Gilgit baltistan, Akshai Chin, Ladakh, Kashmir valley & Jammu will participate in vote.

3. Pakistan will accept the result of vote and take it as final solution and will not raise any question in future.

If Pakistan is ready for above Peace can come ! Else if Pakistan continues exporting Terrirism... Answer will come in 2019

U

India will mind its own business the day Pakistan stops exporting Terrorisim... Pakistan should realise India had been very very patient & tolerant of its activities.. If it doesn't stops India has no option but to give people a choice & the choice is - " U want to deal with India- the world's fastest growing economy with 1.2 billion population & Democratic set up OR U want to deal with Pakistan - the terrorist exporting nation whose very existence is all about Anti - India"

I guess world will use common sense & make a choice !

India is pushing terrorists in Pakistan and pushing Pakistan towards proxy wars.
India is exporting terrorism in the name of being the biggest democracy. Indian obsession with Pakistan is paving way for disaster in the region.
World is realizing that it is hard to do business with India.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Three points.

1. India is big country, whatever they do, will look big to us of course even if they're doing it normally. Their defence budget is around 2.2% of GDP. Where as defence budget of Pakistan is around 3.5%. It gives some idea and my last post with joke is more relevant.

Irrelevant - Pakistan has plenty of resources to increase her defence budget and increase investment in the 'general public' if the elected government gets its house in order.

2. Stop funding TTP and mujahideen, here we trap in cycle again. Chicken was first or egg. Please suggest ways to go out of it instead repeating it again and again.

When India stops supporting terrorism in Pakistan, stops conventional military purchases, Pakistan can also stop increased spending on her military.

3. If you had captured Siachen first, were you ready to demilitrize it on demdnd? For that matter can you demilitrize 'P.o.K' Azad Kashmir?

The international community recognized the currently Indian occupied territory on the glacier as Pakistani per US, Pakistani and even Indian maps published prior to the Indian invasion.

The point here is that if India is unwilling to demilitirize even Siachen, then your comment about 'India trying to prevent Pakistan from becoming a military state cum warlord state' is laughably naive and ridiculous.

 

[Jackdaws]

USA will pursue its own interests. Pak will pursue its own. And India will pursue its own. It is not a party - it is international politics. But I've always said and continue to say that the Western powers have played on our fears for years - South Asia needs to spend on education, sanitation and healthcare for its citizens - not bazookas, tanks or fighter aircraft.

 

[somebozo]

please remind me is USA is india ka baap ki kheti??
THis is what it seems these days...Indians are literally dictating Americans...

USA will pursue its own interests. Pak will pursue its own. And India will pursue its own. It is not a party - it is international politics. But I've always said and continue to say that the Western powers have played on our fears for years - South Asia needs to spend on education, sanitation and healthcare for its citizens - not bazookas, tanks or fighter aircraft.

With neighbors like India you need to be on standby all the time..you never know when a facist power grabs the seat at new delhi and decided to divert attention by war...

India knows very well these weapons will be used to neutralize their proxies hiding and waging a campaign of terror...India cannot do anything to defend against this upcoming slaughter of Indian terror proxies...hence all the fits, whining and crying...

 

[Salik]

The point here is that if India is unwilling to demilitirize even Siachen, then your comment about 'India trying to prevent Pakistan from becoming a military state cum warlord state' is laughably naive and ridiculous.

India is willing to demilitrize Siachen but what assurance you have that no Kargil like surprize will happen again?

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10153918481894919

 

[tarrar]

Why is India crying & dying? well nothing good can be expected from Indian jabronis.

 

[Salik]

@AgNoStiC MuSliM sir i am not asking to justify Kargil operation, you could be right! But timing was wrong, when peace process just started. You could've achieved it anyways.

 

[Musafir117]

This is International opinion. You are an educated guy, why don't you search in internet If I am right or wrong ! Infact all Indians want common Pakistanis to wake up... To read internet.. To get educated about what is exactly truth & what is propaganda.. My best wishes to you.. May God bless you & lead you to truth!

Oh Bhai professor of Education we are in war, inland busy to terminate terrorists ( strongly doubt financing from neighbors ) We need also to defend our land be it sky or ocean, we getting military aid or we buying whatever to defend ourselves what's the pain India getting from?

 

[Anirban]

Re yar. How is plane accident related to terrorisim? India doesn't cares about what planes or fighters Pakistan has. Having said that India will always ask entire world to re-think even if anyone exports a simple helicopter to Pakistan & the reason is Pakistan is a Terrorist nation. When it stops terrorism & works towards peace, development & economic prosperity of Pakistan...that day India will whole heartedly welcome Pakistan and cooperate with it. However, till Pak is with terrorism India will oppose any object's trade that can help Pakistan improve & strengthen its terrorism network. Got it?