India Asks Arms Makers to Be Ready to Produce at Short Notice as Tensions with Pakistan Heat Up

[I S I]

lol. thanks for the compliment.
i hope u know the diff b/w bulb/led vs tubelight .

I don't. I'm illiterate.

 

[ahsanhaider]

India should spend the Money where it needs to go, to eliminate Poverty!

 

[GURU DUTT]

India should spend the Money where it needs to go, to eliminate Poverty!

look who is talking

well same for pakistan my friend ..........charity begins at home

 

[Papa Dragon]

The employees at OFBs and most DPSUs are a bunch of lazy A**holes who try to eat up most of the funds allocated to them. I happen to intern at a PSU where all they do is come in the morning and do some crap talk, go out to have tea and spend at least an hour and come back just to sit back and relax and them comes lunch time where each of them take helluva time as their housing quarters are located close by. I'm not sure if the situation is any better now with the new govt.With this kind of work ethic and most employees are either through recommendation or have a caste based reservation and the kind of work culture that exists in these PSUs, it is just utter foolishness to expect GOI to rely on these firms. Ofcourse a full scale war won't break up anytime soon and hopefully not in the future but hopefully these contracts should be given to a few private firms and strict export control laws should be implemented and well defined tracking of the types and # of arms and ammunition produced should be strictly monitored.

 

[GURU DUTT]

I still wonder why India with such mature industry could not produce a sufficiently good gun ... I mean in darrra they produce better guns than the INASAS.
you can say it is one of the worst gun ever designed as compared to other guns

well two reasons

1. we cant efford anything over 800 dollars but want a product to ork effortlessly in all terrain and all weathers of indian sub continent and that kind of tech comes at least at 2000 dollars in international markets so a so called "desi jugaar"

2. Incompetence and corruption and lack of accountabillity in Indian army (who cant decide actually what they want and keep changing the requirements every 5 years ) and public /government run OFB & DRDO which cant first cand decide what type of approach they need to take on the weapon system and make a over worked and over enginered hotch potch of diffrent ideas coppied from the leading brands

and indian soldioer with his life and limb and tax payer with his hard earned money pays for there silly mistakes

 

[Rajeev_Anand]

The employees at OFBs and most DPSUs are a bunch of lazy A**holes who try to eat up most of the funds allocated to them. I happen to intern at a PSU where all they do is come in the morning and do some crap talk, go out to have tea and spend at least an hour and come back just to sit back and relax and them comes lunch time where each of them take helluva time as their housing quarters are located close by. With this kind of work ethic and most employees are either through recommendation or have a caste based reservation and the kind of work culture that exists in these PSUs, it is just utter foolishness to expect GOI to rely on these firms. Ofcourse a full scale war won't break up anytime soon and hopefully not in the future but hopefully these contracts should be given to a few private firms and strict export control laws should be implemented and well defined tracking of the types and # of arms and ammunition produced should be strictly monitored.

This thread is not about OFB, it is about increasing the inventory levels bcoz it seems the reserves are to be depleted intentionally !!!!

 

[GURU DUTT]

i want some compouter guy who can work on graphics design me a computer genrated model of a Bullpup rifle with 7.62X51mmX21.5 Inch barrel (something like a Tavor clone with 7.62X51mm calibur) housed steel reniforced in a polymor body with at least 4 piccatenni rails on 12,3 ,6& 9 O clock positions

lets make a design and lets send it to indian defnce minister lets see what happens then will patriot indian help me with it

as a bull pup with 7.62 X 51mm X 21.5 inch Barrel will stll be less than 28 inches in overall length and weighing less than 3.5Kg empty and compact enof to be used in CQB and general short- medium -long distance infantry role

 

[Hammad Arshad Qureshi]

i want some compouter guy who can work on graphics design me a computer genrated model of a Bullpup rifle with 7.62X51mmX21.5 Inch barrel (something like a Tavor clone with 7.62X51mm calibur) housed steel reniforced in a polymor body with at least 4 piccatenni rails on 12,3 ,6& 9 O clock positions

lets make a design and lets send it to indian defnce minister lets see what happens then will patriot indian help me with it

as a bull pup with 7.62 X 51mm X 21.5 inch Barrel will stll be less than 28 inches in overall length and weighing less than 3.5Kg empty and compact enof to be used in CQB and general short- medium -long distance infantry role

Hahah dude I am sorry but your comment made me laugh so hard. Your normal public dont even know how to assemble, maintain and heck even fire a rifle. I am pretty sure from your that you haven't fired a single shot in your life. In Pakistan , pushtoon belts even a small child makes guns with their bare hands. Don't trust me go to you tube and search for illegal gun markets in Pakistan.
Now coming to your comment for assembly or manufacturing of new gun. Designing is not that simple. Several factors are involved while designing a assault rifle. The most critical part is plunger of every gun . Change in plunger and you will change design of rifle. And now can you shed the light how are you planning to design the plunger in your master piece 7.26X51 MM rifle?

 

[Papa Dragon]

This thread is not about OFB, it is about increasing the inventory levels bcoz it seems the reserves are to be depleted intentionally !!!!

Well when you are trying to increase the inventory levels, OFBs are the ones who produce guns and ammunition (tank and artillery shells, bullets, indigenous missiles and rockets etc) which are the most important and widely used components in any war. Only if these OFBs were efficient enough, they would cover the inventory levels to some extent.

 

[cerberus]

How about you let ammunition, small arms, etc. be produced outside OFB? Who are terribly inefficient and lazy.

Policy makes no sense. You can trust outside, non Indian private companies to supply you ammo, etc. but make it hard, or even bar Indian private firms from doing the same.

I really do wonder if it's bad now, how did India with this type of poor management get through all those wars? And what will India be in the future when the liberalization of defence and aerospace is fully flushed out.

Well MOD already granted Approval to Private Firms in Feb this year

http://www.janes.com/article/58308/indian-mod-approves-private-sector-ammo-production

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Well MOD already granted Approval to Private Firms in Feb this year

http://www.janes.com/article/58308/indian-mod-approves-private-sector-ammo-production

I know, things are changing now across the spectrum.

Firms like Bharat Forge, etc. need to pump out arty ammo, to small arm ammo. Relying on one lazy, dinosaur in the form of OFB for a army like India's is a joke.

 

[Hellfire]

Totally unrelated but why India never went for Russian rifles?
It was easier to set up facilities to produce AK's under license.
@MilSpec @hellfire @GURU DUTT

I think the way the discourse is proceding it is useless to answer.

So thanks for the tag

 

[Echo_419]

Hahah dude I am sorry but your comment made me laugh so hard. Your normal public dont even know how to assemble, maintain and heck even fire a rifle. I am pretty sure from your that you haven't fired a single shot in your life. In Pakistan , pushtoon belts even a small child makes guns with their bare hands. Don't trust me go to you tube and search for illegal gun markets in Pakistan.
Now coming to your comment for assembly or manufacturing of new gun. Designing is not that simple. Several factors are involved while designing a assault rifle. The most critical part is plunger of every gun . Change in plunger and you will change design of rifle. And now can you shed the light how are you planning to design the plunger in your master piece 7.26X51 MM rifle?

Does shooting guns in Counter Strike count?

 

[Hammad Arshad Qureshi]

Does shooting guns in Counter Strike count?

Well for indians I admit they usually use guns not only in counter strike but by using water guns when they are having girls sleepover nights . And then in morning they claim to perform surgical strikes.
But for us Pakistani. Every Pakistani is armed to teeth. In every house of Pakistan contains assault rifles and automatic weapons . So we are not bluffing when we say that if india in future will cross the border then it will face the army of 180 million

 

[Lotus_stalk]

Yes Pakistan may attack when we block Indus river, it is better to be prepared...

Life is boring without a challenge, God created Pakistan as neighbor so that India can improve militarily... God created Chinese to show how much can be achieved through hardwork and dedication..

Well for indians I admit they usually use guns not only in counter strike but by using water guns when they are having girls sleepover nights . And then in morning they claim to perform surgical strikes.
But for us Pakistani. Every Pakistani is armed to teeth. In every house of Pakistan contains assault rifles and automatic weapons . So we are not bluffing when we say that if india in future will cross the border then it will face the army of 180 million

Your general Niazi surrendered with 93000 soldiers... what will common people do...