India and Pakistan need to reunite like Germany and Vietnam: Markandey Katju

[jamahir]

India doesn’t even want peace in region let alone the idea of unification.
It would be enough to just have peace.

What do you think about this suggestion of miine ??

I case you are wondering what "Swaraaj" means, here is the explanation.

I can respect you as my Muslim brother.

Thank you.

There can be unity between Pakistanis, Kashmiris, and Indian Muslims.

However, what the Hindu Indians have showed us of their deep-seated hate, inferiority complex, and constant conniving, we want noting to do with that.

Believe me, not all Hindus are cow-extreme-worshipping mob lynchers, just like how all Muslims are not Talibanis.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

SOURCE : The Siasat Daily

Former Judge, Supreme Court of India Markandey Katju said that Aman ki Asha is living in a fool’s paradise and deceiving people. The campaign launched jointly by two large media houses, the Jang Group of Pakistan and the Times of India Group of India aims at improving relations between India and Pakistan, and help secure peace in the region. It runs a portal amankiasha.com. Former judge twitted, ‘Aman ki Asha is living in a fool’s paradise and deceiving people.’

In his article written for Pakistani Stories, Katju writes, “While ostensibly its (Aman ki Asha) aim seems laudable, and indeed it has done some good work by promoting some people to people contact between Indians and Pakistanis, which helps to some extent in dispelling the notion that people living on the other side of the border are devils, nevertheless, in my opinion, its basic approach is flawed, and in fact it serves to deceive people.”

He said “India and Pakistan (and Bangladesh) are really one country, sharing the same culture, and were one since Mughal times. Partition in 1947 was a historical British swindle, on the basis of the bogus two nation theory ( that Hindus and Muslims are two separate nations ), which was the culmination of the nefarious British divide and rule policy of making Hindus and Muslims fight each other.” He added, “Pakistan is a fake, artificial country.”

Stressing the need to reunite India and Pakistan, Katju asserted, “It is really part of India, only temporarily separated, but is bound to be reunited with it, like West and East Germany or North and South Vietnam (though that will take time because those who divided us will not let us easily reunite.)

East/West Germany and North/South Vietnam were able to unite as they were the same race, culture, religion, had the same language as eachother and were ultimately the SAME people as one another. Pakistanis and indians are completely different to one another in ALL these respects so they can NEVER EVER form a single nation. IMPOSSIBLE!

 

[manlion]

@Dubious please deal with this abusive poster

Perfectly right, Tamil will respect any Indian if they have wisdom & have unifying thoughts. What kind of thoughts do you have. If you are a real tamil you will speak of brotherhood not separating families. MGR was the first superstar - He was a Mallu. Rajinikant was the next superstar - He's a Maharashtrian. Abdul Kalam became the ISRO chief which is based outside TN & also became the president of India. Venkata Raman was a important figure in the Indian National Congress's who was part of resistance to the British Government, the Quit India Movement of 1942. He became the president of India.

Rajagopalachari was the last Governor-General of India, as India soon became a Republic in 1950. Furthermore, he was the first Indian-born governor-general, since before him the posts were held by British nationals. He also served as leader of the Indian National Congress, Premier of the Madras Presidency, Governor of West Bengal, Minister for Home Affairs of the Indian Union and Chief Minister of Madras state. Rajagopalachari founded the Swatantra Party and was one of the first recipients of India's highest civilian award, the Bharat Ratna.

Army
General Paramasiva Prabhakar Kumaramangalam, 7th Chief of Army Staff (1966–1969)
General Krishnaswamy Sundararajan, 14th Chief of Army Staff (1986–1988)
Navy
Admiral Oscar Stanley Dawson, 12th Chief of Naval Staff, India, 1982–1984
Admiral Sushil Kumar, 16th Chief of the Naval Staff (India) (1988–2001)
Air Force
Air Chief Marshal Srinivasapuram Krishna Swamy, 19th Chief of Air Staff (2001–2004)

This is called proof. This is called India. Want more names, I can give. I am not deluded fool like you who put your paid Bengali in the picture as propaganda & beat the drum here "Picture speak more than words". Put your picture first, you are a Pakistani trying to hide as Tamil to spread conspiracy. Can you prove you are not.

blah blah blah, headless chicken, you proved nothing , again, the bulk of your e.gs comprises of non Tamils and brahmins, who I had mentioned earlier , are anti Tamil pro Indians e.g brahmin Rajagopalachari, who introduced the caste based education system in Tamilnadu and made Hindi a compulsory subject in Tamilandu schools in 1937. The rest is history

In 1953, C. Rajagopalachari’s government had to resign after it introduced the Madras Scheme of Elementary Education. Critics dubbed the new educational policy as Kula Kalvi Thittam or the Hereditary Education Policy brought forth with intent to perpetuate caste hierarchy.

BTW, me listing 1000s of Dravidian and Tamil nationalists would be a tedious endeavor.

When did I claim this is my page. Don't troll - Follow forum rules. Talk on topic.

I don't have to prove who's slave. It tells who's slave from posts, like the way you are trying here in unknown forums & uninvited threads where nobody gives a damn to you & still you shamelessly keep writing your crap even if nobody buys it. Nobody will bother your posts, give any importance to the threads you open. That's reason you come into non related threads & post your crap which is no where related to the discussion.

They are talking about India, so I am here to defend my motherland. This is the quality of a proud Indian. Unlike you 2nd class slave who have to poke their head in others house like a uninvited 3rd class juvenile.

And regarding my parents - they have taught me how to deal with people who try to break homes. We are on this forum to unite Pakistan with India. You are here to break our country & nobody is interested. So why are you coming & waning here without shame. Kudumba Kalakaravane epadi sambalikinam enga appa amma nalla solli kuduthirukango. Talking upbringing. Kudumba kalakara upbringing. You lost all your influence when you killed Rajiv Gandhi - That's your upbringing not mine. If you show love we will give you love. If you come spread hatred - kambile un poole sorundi Manlion pool kababa maathi naayke poduvum.

blah blah blah ..

LOL @ "you killed Rajiv Gandhi" who was the master mind behind the the Sikh genocide, why stop with Rajiv, add Indira Gandhi, Mahatma Gandhi - did the Hindutva (Sikhs) lose their influence too ?

the brain damage is evident from your postings, have a nice day

 

[jamahir]

Something tells me you are referring to 1965 not 1971. Learn your facts before you lecture others.
As for tank graveyards, we have plenty of yours in Asal Uttar. And believe me, no Indian Muslim wants to live in your shithole that ranks 20 spots below us on HDI, below the likes of Uganda. Just ask @jamahir or @GHALIB

What do you think about this suggestion of miine ??

I case you are wondering what "Swaraaj" means, here is the explanation. It's to do with the AAP party.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Can you please provide evidence for your claims? If so please post the links here. You are begining to sound like those indians who used to say that it is impossible for Pakistan to ever become a nuclear weapons state with or without Chinese assistance..........

Whatever our economy is doing, it's doing enough to power us in being able to defend Pakistan against our enemies who are more than 7× bigger than us, have the entire backing of the West and Russia, and have access to the world's most advanced weapons systems whilst we are denied that privilege,..........that is something NO other nation on earth has managed to do.......

If you are that ignorant on what's happening in your country, then no link can make you understand that......
But your only replies are feelz about future and past which again has nothing to do with your current state of affairs.

As for the second whining part, North Korea launched a satellite while on all the sanctions, and have on of the largest fleet of subs in the region. You are in no sanctions and for a brief period you had US backing and access to US tech now Chinese. You are a waste of time to debate, you need to read more, rather than sticking to feelz replies

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

If you are that ignorant on what's happening in your country, then no link can make you understand that......
But your only replies are feelz about future and past which again has nothing to do with your current state of affairs.

As for the second whining part, North Korea launched a satellite while on all the sanctions, and have on of the largest fleet of subs in the region. You are in no sanctions and for a brief period you had US backing and access to US tech now Chinese. You are a waste of time to debate, you need to read more, rather than sticking to feelz replies

EXACTLY.......I was in Pakistan last month. So I am fully aware of the ground reality there. In fact Pakistan has probably never been better. So now please post the links to the evidence of what you said earlier. If not then you are lying just like all other indians.

Also, when did the americans and South Koreans gain a burning desire and publicly state that they want to wipe out North Korea and it's people?.........

 

[VCheng]

Or just the mark wiens pakistan food tour that got posted all around this forum lol (that had a good collection of average laypeople of Pakistan going about their daily business). I am sure @jbgt90 saw for himself too (we are fans, I introduced the channel to him iirc).

Its like suddenly a certain argument used by so many here...is put on "hold/ignore" or some kind of glassy eyed stuff goes on.

@Joe Shearer @VCheng

Anyways its a real touchy "enter at own risk" kind of topic here...so I care not to indulge in it. But I do chuckle at the reality....there is literally two threads here on this very forum right now....one about Trump "mistaking Pakistan to be in the middle east"...and literally another thread about how Pakistan is mostly not in south asia at all

National schizophrenia?

 

[Jaanbaz]

You have been armed and loaded for 70+ years my friend.

Meanwhile half of you broke away and is now leaving you behind.

And you and Razi are smashing your keyboards from the UK and the US.

Such is reality.

Cheers, Doc

Don't care about Bangladesh or India. If you want to unite so badly you can immigrate to Pakistan.

 

[padamchen]

Don't care about Bangladesh or India. If you want to unite so badly you can immigrate to Pakistan.

Still 20 years away but the plan, in that order, is to -

1) Get you guys reunited

2) Move to Kurdistan

3) Start a revolution in Iran

Every life should have a higher purpose where you give back and get remembered for making a difference.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Jaanbaz]

Still 20 years away but the plan, in that order, is to -

1) Get you guys reunited

2) Move to Kurdistan

3) Start a revolution in Iran

Every life should have a higher purpose where you give back and get remembered for making a difference.

Cheers, Doc

1. Same border? Not gonna happen but good relation somewhere in the future where people can travel across the borders maybe some day.
2. Good luck in Kurdistan
3. You can't start a revolution in Iran if you can't speak farsi. I would suggest start learning farsi now. Oh and most Iranians consider you Indian, they would deport your *** back to India. You have more chance of being welcomed in Pakistan then in Iran.

 

[padamchen]

1. Same border? Not gonna happen but good relation somewhere in the future where people can travel across the borders maybe some day.
2. Good luck in Kurdistan
3. You can't start a revolution in Iran if you can't speak farsi. I would suggest start learning farsi now. Oh and most Iranians consider you Indian, they would deport your *** back to India. You have more chance of being welcomed in Pakistan then in Iran.

Khomeini was Indian.

Planted by the Brits.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Jaanbaz]

Khomeini was Indian.

Cheers, Doc

He was born in Iran and spoke Farsi.

 

[padamchen]

He was born in Iran and spoke Farsi.

I have no intention of living in Iran or leading them.

Are you telling me middle eastern revolutions are started and fueled by natives?

Cheers, Doc

 

[Sanchez]

The world belongs to Indian Hindus! No doubt about it.

 

[saiyan0321]

@waz @Irfan Baloch @Jungibaaz @Slav Defence can you plz close this thread which is filled with posts of Pakistanis saying impossible don't want to be with sanghis, one set of Indians saying its inevitable and they pakistanis will have to like it and majority calling Pakistan an artificial construct that should not exist and a "shit hole" including katju himself... Long story short absolutely worthless discussion.

If nothing else then clean it up a bit.


Oh by the way just looking below.. this has been going on since 2013..