India Alarmed By China's Plan to Deploy Warships in Pakistan's Gwadar Port

[Hareeb]

we can still move around without entering in your water...i don't what makes you so happy

My point was about 1100 Km Indo-Oman dual pipeline, a project of $5 billion. If India takes the longer route i.e. mentioned by you, its not economically feasible anymore.
Well you still can take the longer route buring your tax payers'money.

 

[Tom M]

then explain it how that possible

Simple, we just send our shipment to Chabahar last month and you couldn't do a jack.

It's as simple as that. LOL

My point was about 1100 Km Indo-Oman dual pipeline, a project of $5 billion. If India takes the longer route i.e. mentioned by you, its not economically feasible anymore.
Well you still can take the longer route buring your tax payers'money.

LOL, it seems like you are ill informed.

Please care to read the Rights and responsibilities if states as far as EEZ is concerned.


Article58

Rights and duties of other States in the exclusive economic zone

1. In the exclusive economic zone, all States, whether coastal or land-locked, enjoy, subject to the relevant provisions of this Convention, the freedoms referred to in article 87 of navigation and overflight and of the laying of submarine cables and pipelines, and other internationally lawful uses of the sea related to these freedoms, such as those associated with the operation of ships, aircraft and submarine cables and pipelines, and compatible with the other provisions of this Convention.

It's and excerpt from the above link from UN.

http://www.un.org/depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/part5.htm

We will lay the pipeline over the same EEZ or Extended EEZ of Pakistan and you can't do anything, else it will be all out war. Understood.

 

[Zarvan]

Is China deploying air power in the Gwadar?

Not that news but other one it would be true game changer. Leave rest to Government I really hope they make that decision fast

full fledged naval base?

Can't say or I would put myself at serious risk already being monitored

 

[Hareeb]

[/QUOTE]

Are you guy's really like this ?????

FYI, EEZ, just guarantees a country an exclusive rights to reap the economic benefits like Oil rigging, fishing etc. from their share of the zone. But it doesn't deprive any other country to use the shipping channel, especially when it is along the international waters. Just like any other country India will continue to send our shipments which we are already doing for years over the same EEZ of Pakistan, just like we send our shipment to Chabahar last month and Pakistan couldn't do a jack.

This is the hypothetical route of Oman-Iran-India pipeline? Wasnt it outside our EEZ?

This was well before our EEZ expanded. Now make further calculations yourself.

Stuck in the pipeline: A $4-billion deep-sea gas project

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        A UN resolution last March has dashed India’s hope for a natural gas pipeline from the Middle East. Internal assessment is that a proposed deep-sea gas pipeline from Oman and Iran would run into a diplomatic roadblock following the UN approval.

The sea route was outside Pakistan’s exclusive economic zone (EEZ) to transport up to 1.1 billion standard cubic feet per day of gas from Chabahar in Iran and Ra’s al Jifan in Oman to Porbandar in Gujarat state with a spur line to Mumbai later.


“Route under finalisation for the proposed pipeline will have minimal political risk,” SAGE had claimed in a presentation to the Petroleum Ministry in May last year.

However, that situation has changed after the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) extended Pakistan’s seabed territory by another 150 kms on March 19.

The extension of the continental shelf from 200 nautical miles to 350 nautical miles would give Islamabad special rights with regards to exploration and use of marine resources, including energy production in the area under its jurisdiction, also described as its EEZ.

India’s assessment is that Pakistan, which is not a beneficiary of the sub-sea pipeline, was unlikely to allow the pipeline to cross its exclusive economic zone as in 1995 when Islamabad blocked a proposed deep-sea pipeline from Oman to India because it crossed its exclusive economic zone.

Under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, coastal nations are allowed economic control of the waters and seabed up to 200 nautical miles from their shores. They can further claim an extended shelf up to 350 nautical miles from the baseline of sea if they prove that the claimed area was a natural prolongation of their land.

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...peline-a-4-billion-deep-sea-gas-project/lite/

I hope you'll understand this now. Lets not derail the topic.

 

[Malik Usman]

Nothing new from Indian side they are as usually show their hate to everything related to Pakistan...He is just trying to get favors to send more terrorists like Kubushan Yadev in Pakistan.

 

[Indian Jatt]

you were saying????????


you Pajeets have no shame and honor, do you?
https://www.indiatimes.com/news/did...-the-us-to-use-its-military-bases-260952.html


well when the left harbor entire jal sena was forced to sit at docks

Well when last time our ships left the port they made history and the enemy fleet was devastated by just 4 attack boats.
Aise khilone bazaar mein bhout milte Hai jon, lekin in khilono ko chalane ke liye Jo jigar chaiye woh mard apne saath leke paida hota Hai....

You forgot CMs deployed by our navy.

Barak 8

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Well when last time our ships left the port they made history and the enemy fleet was devastated by just 4 attack boats.
Aise khilone bazaar mein bhout milte Hai jon, lekin in khilono ko chalane ke liye Jo jigar chaiye woh mard apne saath leke paida hota Hai....

Beshak mard apnay sath le kr ata ha lekin hijdre hahahah wo puri navy le kar bhag jye jn kahi ghazi na a jye

 

[Crystal-Clear]

Bring on your 72 virgin army with Chinni maal to find out the result.

no man we all are paapis , dush . unvedic

 

[hussain0216]

We will lay the pipeline over the same EEZ or Extended EEZ of Pakistan and you can't do anything, else it will be all out war. Understood.

We hate you and have built up a large nuclear arsenal to wipe you off this world, why do you think the threat of all out war would deter us?

Legal or not is not the point, when we have Pakistani and chinese naval assets criss-crossing the area, you wont have much hope

 

[Tom M]

This is the hypothetical route of Oman-Iran-India pipeline? Wasnt it outside our EEZ?

This was well before our EEZ expanded. Now make further calculations yourself.
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Stuck in the pipeline: A $4-billion deep-sea gas project

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  • • • 
        A UN resolution last March has dashed India’s hope for a natural gas pipeline from the Middle East. Internal assessment is that a proposed deep-sea gas pipeline from Oman and Iran would run into a diplomatic roadblock following the UN approval.

The sea route was outside Pakistan’s exclusive economic zone (EEZ) to transport up to 1.1 billion standard cubic feet per day of gas from Chabahar in Iran and Ra’s al Jifan in Oman to Porbandar in Gujarat state with a spur line to Mumbai later.


“Route under finalisation for the proposed pipeline will have minimal political risk,” SAGE had claimed in a presentation to the Petroleum Ministry in May last year.

However, that situation has changed after the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS) extended Pakistan’s seabed territory by another 150 kms on March 19.

The extension of the continental shelf from 200 nautical miles to 350 nautical miles would give Islamabad special rights with regards to exploration and use of marine resources, including energy production in the area under its jurisdiction, also described as its EEZ.

India’s assessment is that Pakistan, which is not a beneficiary of the sub-sea pipeline, was unlikely to allow the pipeline to cross its exclusive economic zone as in 1995 when Islamabad blocked a proposed deep-sea pipeline from Oman to India because it crossed its exclusive economic zone.

Under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, coastal nations are allowed economic control of the waters and seabed up to 200 nautical miles from their shores. They can further claim an extended shelf up to 350 nautical miles from the baseline of sea if they prove that the claimed area was a natural prolongation of their land.

http://indianexpress.com/article/in...peline-a-4-billion-deep-sea-gas-project/lite/

I hope you'll understand this now. Lets not derail the topic.[/QUOTE]

LOL, It's simply because the auther doesn't know the provisions of martime laws I guess. Any country can use the international waters and use the seabed for laying pipeline, irrespective of whose EEZ it may be passing through. Please read through the international provisions for the same rather than quoting some ill informed journalist or his article.

 

[Indian Jatt]

Beshak mard apnay sath le kr ata ha lekin hijdre hahahah wo puri navy le kar bhag jye jn kahi ghazi na a jye

Aagaya naa aukat pe?? Nahi Matlab PJ marna Tha to marna Tha tune or wahaan bhi hug dia....
Every major warship was in repair yard, it's a fact, all our old battleships we're in repair yard anything else? An aircraft carrier never operates alone so yes our navy played smart and you were never able to inflict damage.....dawarka mein line mein lag ke Indian ordinance factory ke gole fire kar ke bhaag Gaye the tum
Aur sirf ek gaye mata Mari....so much for your navy...

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Aagaya naa aukat pe?? Nahi Matlab PJ marna Tha to marna Tha tune or wahaan bhi hug dia....
Every major warship was in repair yard, it's a fact, all our old battleships we're in repair yard anything else? An aircraft carrier never operates alone so yes our navy played smart and you were never able to inflict damage.....dawarka mein line mein lag ke Indian ordinance factory ke gole fire kar ke bhaag Gaye the tum
Aur sirf ek gaye mata Mari....so much for your navy...

 

[Tom M]

We hate you and have built up a large nuclear arsenal to wipe you off this world, why do you think the threat of all out war would deter us?

Legal or not is not the point, when we have Pakistani and chinese naval assets criss-crossing the area, you wont have much hope

And if any such hostile situation happen around that region it will hurt Pakistan more than anyone else. It will drastically increase the martime insurance cost of merchant ships intended to operate in hostile region, which may even shy them away from operating there. So, you will have to think a out Gadwar and CPEC before troubling India in Arabian sea, else it will be like shooting on your own foot. LOL

 

[Basel]

Simple, we just send our shipment to Chabahar last month and you couldn't do a jack.

It's as simple as that. LOL




LOL, it seems like you are ill informed.

Please care to read the Rights and responsibilities if states as far as EEZ is concerned.


Article58

Rights and duties of other States in the exclusive economic zone

1. In the exclusive economic zone, all States, whether coastal or land-locked, enjoy, subject to the relevant provisions of this Convention, the freedoms referred to in article 87 of navigation and overflight and of the laying of submarine cables and pipelines, and other internationally lawful uses of the sea related to these freedoms, such as those associated with the operation of ships, aircraft and submarine cables and pipelines, and compatible with the other provisions of this Convention.

It's and excerpt from the above link from UN.

http://www.un.org/depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/part5.htm

We will lay the pipeline over the same EEZ or Extended EEZ of Pakistan and you can't do anything, else it will be all out war. Understood.

In hostilities we can check what cargo is passing in our EEZ and no one can stop us from doing it.

 

[hussain0216]

And if any such hostile situation happen around that region it will hurt Pakistan more than anyone else. It will drastically increase the martime insurance cost of merchant ships intended to operate in hostile region, which may even shy them away from operating there. So, you will have to think a out Gadwar and CPEC before troubling India in Arabian sea, else it will be like shooting on your own foot. LOL

I think we will be fine!!! We can secure our route

We are happy to confront india anywhere and everywhere

In hostilities we can check what cargo is passing in our EEZ and no one can stop us from doing it.

Too be fair I have a feeling we are going to harass indian ships constantly