Impending India-China war - How do they compare?

[StraightShooter]

 

[StraightShooter]

Clearly China has 2-1 advantage over India not including Pakistan's forces.

 

[jetray]

We have "StraightShooter" on our side we will win all the wars.

 

[StraightShooter]

We have "StraightShooter" on our side we will win all the wars.

With jetray's help

India should be able to defend reasonably well.

 

[帅的一匹]

These chart is completely wrong

 

[wiseone2]

what matters is the number of soldiers and equipment in the theater of conflict

 

[帅的一匹]

India is owned by China in self propelled artillery and rocket projector, as well as the cruise missiles and short-midum ballistic missiles. India navy is only 1/3rd of Chinese scale, the gap will even large in the future as China churn out 055 DDG.

China has stealthy fighter and India doesn't. As long as we have the air dominance, IA is done.

We have our own satellite navigation system and India doesn't.

Our GDP is 5 times of India, means actually we can raise a force 5 times of India.

I hope Modi Ji can wake up before everything is too late.

China is in peace mode now, don't force him to turn on attack mode.

we can produce nearly everything for our force, while India has to buy nearly everything from overseas. Can't compare, the gap is too large. Why India deploy 200 thousands soldiers along the border if you don't fear China's mighty?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

what matters is the number of soldiers and equipment in the theater of conflict

And in order to get the soldiers and equipment to the area of conflict, you need border infrastructure.

An area in which India is sorely lacking, in many places India's border infrastructure doesn't even reach the border. Meaning that Indian soldiers will have to trek for several days on foot, over extremely mountainous terrain, with heavy backpacks/weapons/equipment, just to reach the border.

Even a strong and fit person would have significant difficulty in carrying 40-50 kg of gear over a SINGLE mountain on this Himalayan border. Let alone countless mountains for several days in a row.

 

[SingaporeGuy]

not that im cynical but each time india deploys there would be a high % rate of accident or friendly fire or anything.

india needs to keep watch on its operational readiness really.

plane crashes are definitely not normal

 

[wiseone2]

And in order to get the soldiers and equipment to the area of conflict, you need border infrastructure.

An area in which India is sorely lacking, in many places India's border infrastructure doesn't even reach the border. Meaning that Indian soldiers will have to trek for several days on foot, over extremely mountainous terrain, with heavy backpacks/weapons/equipment, just to reach the border.

Even a strong and fit person would have significant difficulty in carrying 40-50 kg of gear over a SINGLE mountain on this Himalayan border. Let alone countless mountains for several days in a row.

Once Chinese troops move away from the roads they are subject to the same constraints

 

[帅的一匹]

And in order to get the soldiers and equipment to the area of conflict, you need border infrastructure.

An area in which India is sorely lacking, in many places India's border infrastructure doesn't even reach the border. Meaning that Indian soldiers will have to trek for several days on foot, over extremely mountainous terrain, with heavy backpacks/weapons/equipment, just to reach the border.

Even a strong and fit person would have significant difficulty in carrying 40-50 kg of gear over a SINGLE mountain on this Himalayan border. Let alone countless mountains for several days in a row.

They know they can't field China, so deliberately delay the road building. Or we can mobilize our infantry all the way to Dehli. India fears China.

They frontier deploy 200 thousands soldiers and don't build road. They actually try to leave a way out when they get beat up like 1962.

All we need to do is cut their supply lines in the war, then those 200 thousands soldiers will be sitting ducks.

I wish China can deploy more than 200 Z20 utility helicopters in Tibet . Accompanied by AH4 light weight artillery, it's kicking *** power.

No matter how much India wants to compete with China, the size of GDP directly decide the size of the army.

 

[SingaporeGuy]

Once Chinese troops move away from the roads they are subject to the same constraints

nah. They got the equipment now.

Its no longer 1950's

 

[帅的一匹]

China builds roads in doorway means we have confidence to win.

These time the Indian PoW will be sent to clean toilets in my home town.

 

[AUSTERLITZ]

You have only 2 forward deployed mountain infantry brigades(52 and 53rd) and 1 forward deployed mechanized infantry brigade.These are the only 3 units you have on the tibet plateau proper and are acclimatized.The rest are in Xinjiang or to the East.

Above is your position in chumbi valley you are surrounded on both sides with our artillery having the high ground and sited on the reverse slope completely dominating your positions.Your MBRL is useless against reverse slope positions(because of trajectory ),nor does it have enough penetration to destroy dug in heavy bunkers,you need large calibre rounds of tube artillery with their corresponding weight/heavy aerial bombs for that.As for your MBRL flying over the himalyan mountain peaks to hit the indian plains that some chinese posters seem to fantasize of,i suppose its possible with 'chinese science'.Your rockets will phase through the mountains.

Expand image.Above is general order of battle of Indian army.This ORBAT is a few years old and several new units facing china have been raised since then but will give you a rough idea.Indian Eastern command faces solely China.It has 9 specialized mountain divisions(each with 3 mountain infantry brigades and support units/artillery brigade) in 3 army corps.3 divisions are in sikkim.3 in Central and western arunachal pradesh and 3 more in eastern arunachal and nagaland.It has another infantry division in Ranchi as theatre reserve.

Sikkim/Bhutan/Chicken's neck region constitutes the 'middle sector' of the LAC and due to its strategic importance India deploys 3 whole mountain divisions in this region.Not shown in the older ORBAT above is that India has deployed an independent armoured brigade in Sikkim as well recently.The Eastern sector of Arunachal/Nagaland has 6 mountain divisions as stated above.

Then there is 'western sector' in Ladakh in Kashmir facing Aksai chin.Here 14th corps has 1 infantry and 1 mountain division.Recently an independent armoured brigade of 150 odd tanks has been deployed to beef up this sector.Our strike corps at Ambala can reinforce this area quickly,as can our huge forces present in Kashmir.

What will Mountain strike corps do?
Add 2 infantry divisions and 2 independent armoured brigades.1st division has been made operational with 16,000 troops at panagrah.This then adds to the strength of the eastern command by adding 1 more division(already 9 mtn and 1 inf plus 1 arm brigade).Another armoured brigade will be raised and added to arunachal area under mountain strike corps.

2ndly,Mountain strike corps's 2nd division has begun to be raised in Pathankot in Kashmir which will add to the strength of our 14th corps in Ladakh.Another armoured brigade too will be added in this area under MSC.

(partly accurate map,except not taking into account reserves.Chinese ORBAT is older before reorganization into western theatre)

Eastern sector in arunachal.No country for tanks or mechanized vehicles.

A somewhat old and rough map from Jane's.We have 1 brahmos regiment already deployed in Arunachal with 100 missiles targeting mainly supply depots and rail/road links into Tibet.Another regiment will be raised with MSC.3 more brahmos regiments with ~240-300 missiles target pakistan in our 3 strike corps.Our target with Brahmos is simple,we destroy the gas pipeline from the mainland that supplies fuel for vehicles/aircraft in tibet and we destroy the 2-3 main road and rail links that connect tibet with xinjiang and mainland china.This can be done quickly and easily and repeated several times even if repaired.Once these road/rail links and fuel is gone it doesn't matter how many soldiers you have in tibet,they starve.No oil,no ammo,no reinforcements. You can see the main road/rail links in the above map.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...s-exercise-in-ladakh/articleshow/58884540.cms
Deployment of 2nd inf division of MSC beginning.First one operational.

https://www.telegraphindia.com/1160718/jsp/frontpage/story_97322.jsp
Recent reinforcing of forces at Ladakh.

A little reality check for CCP fanboys.The actual situation in the ground rather than paper strength.

 

[JohnyD]

You have only 2 forward deployed mountain infantry brigades(52 and 53rd) and 1 forward deployed mechanized infantry brigade.These are the only 3 units you have on the tibet plateau proper and are acclimatized.The rest are in Xinjiang or to the East.

Above is your position in chumbi valley you are surrounded on both sides with our artillery having the high ground and sited on the reverse slope completely dominating your positions.Your MBRL is useless against reverse slope positions(because of trajectory ),nor does it have enough penetration to destroy dug in heavy bunkers,you need large calibre rounds of tube artillery with their corresponding weight/heavy aerial bombs for that.As for your MBRL flying over the himalyan mountain peaks to hit the indian plains that some chinese posters seem to fantasize of,i suppose its possible with 'chinese science'.Your rockets will phase through the mountains.

Expand image.Above is general order of battle of Indian army.This ORBAT is a few years old and several new units facing china have been raised since then but will give you a rough idea.Indian Eastern command faces solely China.It has 9 specialized mountain divisions(each with 3 mountain infantry brigades and support units/artillery brigade) in 3 army corps.3 divisions are in sikkim.3 in Central and western arunachal pradesh and 3 more in eastern arunachal and nagaland.It has another infantry division in Ranchi as theatre reserve.

Sikkim/Bhutan/Chicken's neck region constitutes the 'middle sector' of the LAC and due to its strategic importance India deploys 3 whole mountain divisions in this region.Not shown in the older ORBAT above is that India has deployed an independent armoured brigade in Sikkim as well recently.The Eastern sector of Arunachal/Nagaland has 6 mountain divisions as stated above.

Then there is 'western sector' in Ladakh in Kashmir facing Aksai chin.Here 14th corps has 1 infantry and 1 mountain division.Recently an independent armoured brigade of 150 odd tanks has been deployed to beef up this sector.Our strike corps at Ambala can reinforce this area quickly,as can our huge forces present in Kashmir.

What will Mountain strike corps do?
Add 2 infantry divisions and 2 independent armoured brigades.1st division has been made operational with 16,000 troops at panagrah.This then adds to the strength of the eastern command by adding 1 more division(already 9 mtn and 1 inf plus 1 arm brigade).Another armoured brigade will be raised and added to arunachal area under mountain strike corps.

2ndly,Mountain strike corps's 2nd division has begun to be raised in Pathankot in Kashmir which will add to the strength of our 14th corps in Ladakh.Another armoured brigade too will be added in this area under MSC.

(partly accurate map,except not taking into account reserves.Chinese ORBAT is older before reorganization into western theatre)

Eastern sector in arunachal.No country for tanks or mechanized vehicles.

A somewhat old and rough map from Jane's.We have 1 brahmos regiment already deployed in Arunachal with 100 missiles targeting mainly supply depots and rail/road links into Tibet.Another regiment will be raised with MSC.3 more brahmos regiments with ~240-300 missiles target pakistan in our 3 strike corps.Our target with Brahmos is simple,we destroy the gas pipeline from the mainland that supplies fuel for vehicles/aircraft in tibet and we destroy the 2-3 main road and rail links that connect tibet with xinjiang and mainland china.This can be done quickly and easily and repeated several times even if repaired.Once these road/rail links and fuel is gone it doesn't matter how many soldiers you have in tibet,they starve.No oil,no ammo,no reinforcements. You can see the main road/rail links in the above map.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...s-exercise-in-ladakh/articleshow/58884540.cms
Deployment of 2nd inf division of MSC beginning.First one operational.

https://www.telegraphindia.com/1160718/jsp/frontpage/story_97322.jsp
Recent reinforcing of forces at Ladakh.

A little reality check for CCP fanboys.The actual situation in the ground rather than paper strength.

I wish I could give you + Rating for this work..