I am extremely impressed by the governance of Caliph Umar, will try to follow his model : Kejriwal

[Guynextdoor2]

what are the qualities is he talking about? Kejri does not tolerate dissent within party, and will undermine everybody for his own goal. extremely pessimistic individual, its like whole world is conspiring against him.
The same party that wanted to distance itself from religion related politics caught red handed.

So says a MODI SUPPORTER . BTW are you reading the news. Read about the latest exploits of BJP and their 'honesty'.

 

[livingdead]

So says a MODI SUPPORTER . BTW are you reading the news. Read about the latest exploits of BJP and their 'honesty'.

sorry not interested in being x supporter or y supporter. lolz.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

And the fact that he cleared off more than 1 lakh pensions that had been stuck for years, fought swine flu etc. are not governance.

Every state fought swine flu and did control it.
I am talking of Garbage wars and his promise to recognise enroachments which is nothing but appeasement. I know every party promises the same. But this is not expected from a party with a difference (or so it calls itself).

However, I support Kejriwal in reducing corruption in Delhi and his right on transfer of officials other than Police. I believe land powers should be with him and also the ACB.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Every state fought swine flu and did control it.
I am talking of Garbage wars and his promise to recognise enroachments which is nothing but appeasement. I know every party promises the same. But this is not expected from a party with a difference (or so it calls itself).

However, I support Kejriwal in reducing corruption in Delhi and his right on transfer of officials other than Police. I believe land powers should be with him and also the ACB.

Yeah and the garbage wars weren't caused by BJP? Modi's intent to 'punish' the people of delhi by screwing up the city should disturb you. I guess nowadays we need to be open to the idea that if you don't vote for a party you'llbe punished extensively like goons.

And the way delhi fought it was far more efficiently than any other city. Extremely well managed.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Yeah and the garbage wars weren't caused by BJP? Modi's intent to 'punish' the people of delhi by screwing up the city should disturb you. I guess nowadays we need to be open to the idea that if you don't vote for a party you'llbe punished extensively like goons.

Its Kejriwal who is ruling the city and not Modi. Man, get a rest. The central govt dept responsible for Delhi is Rajnath Singh not Modi.

You and ur Modi Obsession. Modi is your PM, and have some respect for the position of Prime Minister. Dr.MMS had a respect, and so does Modi (even if you do not like him).

Secondly Delhi's budget is fixed, and they cannot simply ask for more blaming central govt. They need to maintain fiscal discipline and stop populist measure. They are getting a lots of loan for that, which put Delhi's people under severe strain.
His Arguement on Delhi pay xyz taxes and it should get xyz money from centre is childish and irresponsible to be honest. So if the centre gives back some percentage of taxes money as demanded by AAP(in addition to yearly allocation) who will build national highways, ports, railways, Defence, pay central govt employees and police? I am really finding difficult to cope up he was a IRS officer.

AAP MLA's were chased away by the people of their constituencies when they came to clean the garbage. People are watching AAP my dear. And it might not really offer a third chance.

 

[Manindra]

asking for muslim votes?

To make them always illiterate & backward like sheep so they would be fix vote bank.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Its Kejriwal who is ruling the city and not Modi. Man, get a rest. The central govt dept responsible for Delhi is Rajnath Singh not Modi.

You and ur Modi Obsession. Modi is your PM, and have some respect for the position of Prime Minister. Dr.MMS had a respect, and so does Modi (even if you do not like him).

Secondly Delhi's budget is fixed, and they cannot simply ask for more blaming central govt. They need to maintain fiscal discipline and stop populist measure. They are getting a lots of loan for that, which put Delhi's people under severe strain.
His Arguement on Delhi pay xyz taxes and it should get xyz money from centre is childish and irresponsible to be honest. So if the centre gives back some percentage of taxes money as demanded by AAP(in addition to yearly allocation) who will build national highways, ports, railways, Defence, pay central govt employees and police? I am really finding difficult to cope up he was a IRS officer.

AAP MLA's were chased away by the people of their constituencies when they came to clean the garbage. People are watching AAP my dear. And it might not really offer a third chance.

You don't know anything about the issue do you?

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

You don't know anything about the issue do you?

Ya and you know everything mr. selective replier.

 

[Guynextdoor2]

Ya and you know everything mr. selective replier.

Yeah....kind of....

 

[Manindra]

And you are going to mandate whose history people should refer to in public discussions...? Your argument just keeps getting lamer.

You alleged me ill inform & meddling Father of the Nation in political matter then what can I do ?
Either I logical reply you or abuse you without any bar.
I chose first one.

 

[Sky lord]

Yeah and the garbage wars weren't caused by BJP? Modi's intent to 'punish' the people of delhi by screwing up the city should disturb you. I guess nowadays we need to be open to the idea that if you don't vote for a party you'llbe punished extensively like goons.

And the way delhi fought it was far more efficiently than any other city. Extremely well managed.

So despite having a 67/3 majority, you are completely helpless to work in a democratic environment?

Ok, I can see where this argument is going, you need more powers, absolute powers, maybe like Hitler or polpot, or gadaffi? When you still can't deliver, step no. 2 is to blame " outside forces". America maybe, or of course your bête noir the poor hapless Modi, who was busy in Bangladesh and .myanmar and had more important things to do than worry about you leader picking fights with garbage collectors.

Delhites are just Biharis and punjabis with money. The mismanagemt in their home states will take place in delhi too because they fall for scam artists like kejjliwal.

You alleged me ill inform & meddling Father of the Nation in political matter then what can I do ?
Either I logical reply you or abuse you without any bar.
I chose first one.

Choose second one, I will support you.

 

[Sipahi]

The Years of Omar's Caliphate

Omar was Caliph for ten and a half years. This period stands out as the golden age of Islam. The tender plant which the Holy Prophet left behind and Abu Bakr had protected against storms grew into a huge overspreading tree under Omar's untiring care. Islam became a world power. It could now stand the wear and tear ot time. The thing for which the Holy Prophet had prayed years before was now a fact. Omar had made Islam strong and great! Thereby he had also made his own name immortal.


Omar's amazing success was due to two things - his fear of Allah and his love for the Prophet. In all his dealings he never forgot for a second that he was answerable to Allah. He strictly followed the example set by the Prophet. These two things made him at once the most powerful ruler and the most selfless man of his time. He used all his power for the greater glory of Allah and His Prophet.

Omar's armies overthrew two mighty empires of the time. But he himself led an extremely simple and hard life. Hurmuzan, the ruler of Ahwaz, came up for an interview with the Caliph of Medina. He was dressed in shining silks and was wearing a crown set with jewels. But he was stunned to see the Caliph in coarse, patched clothes.

Besides the small monthly allowance that he was allowed, Omar would not spend a penny from the public funds on himself or his family.

He had diplomatic relations with other rulers. Once his wife asked the envoy to Byzantium to take for the Emperor's wife her gift of a phial of scent. In return the Empress went he a necklace of pearls. Omar came to know of this and gave the necklace to the Public treasury. "The envoy travelled at public expense," he told his wife.

At night the Caliph would burn oil from the Bait-ul-Mal (Public Treasury) only as long as he went through official papers. After that he put out the lamp, even though there was no other light in the house.

Omar personally looked into the smallest affairs of the people. He worked like a laboror all day. At night, he went around the city to find out for himself how people lived and felt. He was ever ready to help those who needed his help. He would carry supplies on his shoulders and deliver them at the homes of the poor. Nothing could stop Omar from doing his duty to the people.

All citizens, including the Caliph himself, were equal before the law. Once Omar appeared before the court of Medina. Somebody had made a complaint against him. The judge stood up to show respect to the Caliph as he entered the court. "This is the first injustice you have done to the plantiff," said Omar, addressing the judge. Modern democratic states have yet to reach this level of democracy. Their heads cannot be summoned before an ordinary court.

The greatest desire of Omar was to see the blessings of Islam flow in full measure to all people, in all countries under him. He himself could be approached by anybody. Even the humblest of men could stop him in the street. He could ask the Caliph why he had done a particular thing. A poor woman could speak back to him. She could point out to him any of his mistakes. With all his power and piet, he never considered himself above mistakes. He welcomed the opinions of those who differed with him. In fact he used to say, "Allah's mercy be on those who bring me the knowledge of my shortcomings."

Omar wanted his deputies to be as democratic as he himself was. He dreaded very much the anti-democratic traditions of Iran and Byzantium. He was afraid lest these traditions should encrust the free spirit of Islam. So his governors had strict orders not to cut themselves off from the people. They had orders to eat simple food and wear simple dress. They were forbidden to build porches in front of their houses. They were forbidden to have door-keepers. Omar insisted that the rulers should be one with the people. He insisted that they should mix freely with the people. He wanted them to be at the call of every man and woman who lived under their rule. To make sure of this, Omar kept himself in close touch with the day-to-day doings of his officers. Trusted observers went round in the vast empire of Islam and sent reports to the Caliph.

Once Omar came to know that one of his governors had cut himself off from the people. At once he was called to Medina. The Calpih made him take off his silk robes. The he sent the fellow into the desert to tend a herd of sheep. No rank was too high to sway Omar's hand of justice.

Omar had a huge empire to manage. He proved more then equal to the task. He was called upon to look after huge military campaigns, going on at one and the same time, in the east and the west. He met this challenge with amazing success. History was nothing to put beside this achievement. Next he was called upon to bring peace and order to his vast empire. Here again his success was unequalled. The freedom, justice and security which he gave to his people were unknown in any other part of the world. In short, Omar made himself the fountain-head from which flowed the undiluted blessings by the Holy Prophet for manking.

 

[New World]

W

Was the Caliphate umar biased against Shias and Killed Muhammad's daughter ????

there was nothing as shias at his time and hazrat Ali R.A was also alive and was his adviser..

Shia system start after Karbala..

 

[Guynextdoor2]

So despite having a 67/3 majority, you are completely helpless to work in a democratic environment?

Ok, I can see where this argument is going, you need more powers, absolute powers, maybe like Hitler or polpot, or gadaffi? When you still can't deliver, step no. 2 is to blame " outside forces". America maybe, or of course your bête noir the poor hapless Modi, who was busy in Bangladesh and .myanmar and had more important things to do than worry about you leader picking fights with garbage collectors.

Delhites are just Biharis and punjabis with money. The mismanagemt in their home states will take place in delhi too because they fall for scam artists like kejjliwal.


Choose second one, I will support you.

 

[New World]

W

Was the Caliphate umar biased against Shias and Killed Muhammad's daughter ????

No one Kill Hazrat Muhammad's(PBUH) daughter, She R.A died because of natural death.. and was Buried by Hazrat Ali at night..