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But LRTR radars and advanced SAMs can see F22 . Shoulder fired SAMs can kill F22 as any way F22's need to come to strike the target .You can't kill what you can't see
But LRTR radars and advanced SAMs can see F22 . Shoulder fired SAMs can kill F22 as any way F22's need to come to strike the target .
No...It was mistakenly INTERPRETED and that mistake came from a false understanding of basic radar detection principles. And please do not drag up that Rachel Maddow video. That was one of the many relays of that false understanding. It was deliberately designed for gullible people, which is most here, and not for those who have relevant experience in the field.Apparently rain compromises the stealth material on the Raptors. This was reported a few years ago atleast, maybe it has been rectified since then.
While shoulder fire anti aircraft missiles can hit targets as long as 4km-8km , since f22 will use bombs to neutralize the targets it needs to come close to it . It needs to come with in a radius of 500m to attack the target successfully .Shoulder fire sams cannot kill even a mig 21 unless the pilot is flying in ground hugging mode let alone F22.
LRTR radar would be dead before it detects F22.
Is that all you got to respond to your exposure of being such an intellectually dishonest person?
Within VISUAL range? Sure...
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Yes we will. What do you think all this hoopla about the OBOGS is for? Try to be consistent.
first it is a matter of who is a better pilot
second the f 22 can be destroyed from the ground (air defence ) if your fighters can maneuver and survive the bvr missiles you can pull the f 22 to the range of ground air defence
or if you have bvr you can win by numbers face the f 22 with much cheaper jets and much more
that is if you are defending
All crap. All will die without knowing where the shots came from.
Your theory sounds good on paper but in reality BVR missiles agianst an F-22 won't work. Your problem is first having a radar capable of detecting it. Which considering its RCS value the radar in question needs to be able to distinguish something smaller then a hummingbird through all the background clutter of the radar. then it has to lock on with the missile which the ECW suite in the F-22 is actively countering. This is why F-15 pilots report that they can't get radar locks before they can visually see the F-22 and by then it's to late.
There is one aircraft that can give the F-22 a run for it's money. And that is the F-35 with it's more advanced electronics and radar. The F-35 electronics test bed aircraft (CAT Bird) in testing has been able to detect and engage 2 F-22's at range disabling them both.
russian su 35 can do this maneuvering untill they close in for the killThe trick is to be able to engage the F-22 in WVR combat, and there are plenty of tricks you can use to prevent the F-22 from being able to shoot you down BVR.