How should Turkey respond to SAA campaign on Idlib

[mete]

When SAA establishes control over the border they will use PKK to destabilize Turkey. Bashar will never forgive Erdogan and his transgressions. Before loyalist op began there were numerous raids carried out by Kurdish guerrillas in Afrin. Have you asked yourself simple question -how does Kurdish militia enter and operate in Afrin?Only thru Tell Rifat. If so, loyalist supply them with atgms, training,care for their wounded, provide them with provisions.
During loyalist op they hit Turkish observation post causing casualties among your ranks. No response from Turkey.
I can’t imagine how aggressive they’ll become once they take over idlib. And you propose to share Intel with them

Idlib is a major problem for us and politics change and there is no place for emotions at international politics.

PKK and its various named wings in Syria can not be used by Syrian goverment. Their next target will be 1/3 of US proxy at the east of euprateas, this is why Pentagon demands at least 100k so called soldiers to be trained from their rats until the end of 2019. This is why supporting SAA and handling Idlib as soon as possible is beneficial for us.

We shall start talking to Syerian goverment.(which is accepted by both sides that military and intelligence services are doing that) High ranked diplomatic communication with them via Russia makes it vulnerable to Russian manipulation.

Do not forget that organisations in Idlib were backed by USA for a long time.

 

[WarDaddy97]

You can start negotiating with whoever you want. If in the 90s Khafez Assad actively supported pkk they will support them when hostilities over. That’s just common sense.
Idlib is a headache because Julani will not kiss the ring. He won’t because you sold out Aleppo. your passive behavior in current govt offensive justifies jihadi standpoint in dealing with Turkey.

 

[Bismarck]

You can start negotiating with whoever you want. If in the 90s Khafez Assad actively supported pkk they will support them when hostilities over. That’s just common sense.
Idlib is a headache because Julani will not kiss the ring. He won’t because you sold out Aleppo. your passive behavior in current govt offensive justifies jihadi standpoint in dealing with Turkey.

You could change situation in Idlib within 24h. But you won't do it, because it would solve problems between Turkey and Russia.

 

[Mithridates]

The Russians are primarily using Su-24 for bombing missions. These aircraft are out-dated and lack targetting pods (Russians haven't been able to develop a state of the art targeting pod). They are just bombing entire bombs.

russians have their own standards, they integrate pods to the main structure:

su-24 and su-34 targeting systems.

 

[saif123]

thats what western propaganda tell us, babies dying, hospitals bombed, refugee camp bombed, what they dont tell us is this...

Are you not able to see how the Sunni majority areas of Syria sent to stone age by indiscriminate bombing by Terrorists Assad & Putin or you are really a blind or else an Assad / Putin agent / propagandist??
Just see the daily bombing of Greater Idlib on daily basis on civilian population using all types of banned ammunition.
For me USA, Swine Assad, Iran, Russia, ISIS, SDF PKK & YPG etc. are all equal terrorists.

 

[Numerous]

Some real deluded Assadists on here.

Even going so far as to deny that Assad & Russia bomb hospitals.

Honestly there is a deep disease in some Pakistanis. They lack common sense. They blame all their world problems on western propaganda. They think the world is black and white, split into good guys and the west. This kind of mind set has to change.

You will find that many of the countries who they support literally take from the western hand book of wars. They label Muslims terrorists to justify their actions and then destroy cities and murder our women & children. Same tactics, just a different nation doing the killing - Russia instead of America.

Stop being so blind. One day they may bomb your country as well in future and they'll say you're a terrorist to justify it. And as you're being bombed to smithereens, there'll be some idiot somewhere else in the world who'll think your situation is all propaganda too... You won't like it then.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

russians have their own standards, they integrate pods to the main structure:
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su-24 and su-34 targeting systems.

That's right. Dedicated strike planes like F-111, F-117, Su-24, Su-34 don't carry targeting pods on hardpoints. They have fuselage mounted targeting systems.

 

[WarDaddy97]

You could change situation in Idlib within 24h. But you won't do it, because it would solve problems between Turkey and Russia.

We did it in 2018. Regime, russians and shia militia were ready for ground op after extensive aerial bombardment then came Trumps threat


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/05/syria-donald-trump-idlib-slaughter-very-angry

And they backed off.

Unfortunately Turks did not appreciate our help, and this time around they have to figure out how to appease their new best friend-Vlad Putin

 

[WarDaddy97]

Turks responded very well by supplying rebels with atgms and mrls. Perfect results would be achieved had they supplied MANPADs but as we know this is not one way street.
Considering regime gains and losses I think Turks pulled it off this time. And let’s not forget that by diplomatically engaging Zarif they kept Iranian militia on the sidelines which played important role in weakening regimes offensive capabilities

 

[Bismarck]

We did it in 2018. Regime, russians and shia militia were ready for ground op after extensive aerial bombardment then came Trumps threat


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/05/syria-donald-trump-idlib-slaughter-very-angry

And they backed off.

Unfortunately Turks did not appreciate our help, and this time around they have to figure out how to appease their new best friend-Vlad Putin

Why have you waiting so long (2018)?

 

[WarDaddy97]

Why have you waiting so long (2018)?

Why don’t you enlighten yourself and read on how events unfolded in Idlib. Chronologically. I say from 2014 till 2018

 

[Bismarck]

Why don’t you enlighten yourself and read on how events unfolded in Idlib. Chronologically. I say from 2014 till 2018

You have had the chance to solve the problem in the beginning, before Russia was involved.

 

[WarDaddy97]

You have had the chance to solve the problem in the beginning, before Russia was involved.

And when we do libtards like you will shout-“seeee amrikan hawkish foreign policy, another intervention by war hungry Washington they just want oil oil oil oil”

 

[Bismarck]

And when we do libtards like you will shout-“seeee amrikan hawkish foreign policy, another intervention by war hungry Washington they just want oil oil oil oil”

Because Syria has so much oil. You do it in Iraq (much oil recourses), in Libya (much oil recourses), want it in Iran (much oil recourses). And in Syria you do want not, because you are afraid that people like me could say, you want oil in a oilless country?

 

[WarDaddy97]

Because Syria has so much oil. You do it in Iraq (much oil recourses), in Libya (much oil recourses), want it in Iran (much oil recourses). And in Syria you do want not, because you are afraid that people like me could say, you want oil in a oilless country?

Whats recourses? Ohhh my “German” friend means RESOURCES. Riiight.
Yeah yeah “we are afraid because people like you”let’s leave it at that