How many ppl from Pakistan in this forum justify this act ?

[Trisonics]

Wake the Fuk up retard!

Touched a raw nerve?

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

P.S; Capt Iqbal lead a company of 12 not 14.

 

[Ajai Ghale]

These people were the ones who captured the post and fought for days... But couldn't be responded from the base... They ran out of ammo and the post was siezed by indians after taking heavy casualties....

Capt MD Iqbal died (his body was found several months later when the snow melted down) during op Qiyadat 1987,His action is not related to Sub Atta Muhammad who died defending the Qaid Post.

Anyway this incident reminded me of Chinese ...Battle of Rezangla 1962 when Ahir Charlie company of 120 man fought till last man (114 dead ) and saved Chushul from PLA.

Chinese honoured the dead ... they sank a bayonet in the ground and put a helmet on top and left a note praising the bravery.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Touched a raw nerve?

No .. I just hate lying turds feed on media propoganda...

Now I dare you ... No .. I double dare you ../5: To prove we abandoned bodies !

1) -> Burial sites of those "imaginery soldiers".?


2)-> An official document from indian military?


3)-> The family of those troops demanding "bodies".. Which according to dumb fuks are in "thousands".



4)-> There are actual footage of flag meetings and body exchange ceremonies from Kargil on YouTube !


5) ->. STFU

 

[Ajai Ghale]

He was an honest an good man who Inspired several thoudsand ASC troops to join the SSG. He himself was a symbol of Pride for the Pakistan Army service corps. HIS LAST LETTER IS A NSEEHAT for all of us he knew death was indeed inevitable. He wrote this letter saying that his father should give 600 rupees which he had borrowed and look after his mother and sister and his childeren with care. While he and his squad overran the enemy postion , the indian officer was a muslim who ordered artillery fire on his own position resulting in shahadt of all present. The indian officer was awarded veer chakar and our boy's bravery was officially recognized by the indian army. He was, He is and He will inspire countless generation of ASC troops to join SSG.

Self respect, honour, dignity ,self sacrifice and fear of Allah is in the heart of every muslim soldiers. He will think a millions times before commiting such action. A child was beheaded in india as a sacrifice to kalia which I saw aand read on a news article

I know my Army and My people do you know Yours ?

How the fcuk even the news of child sacrifice related to this thread

But since you already mentioned it
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[DESERT FIGHTER]

Capt MD Iqbal died (his body was found several months later when the snow melted down) during op Qiyadat 1987,His action is not related to Sub Atta Muhammad who died defending the Qaid Post.

Anyway this incident reminded me of Chinese ...Battle of Rezangla 1962 when Ahir Charlie company of 120 man fought till last man (114 dead ) and saved Chushul from PLA.

Chinese honoured the dead ... they sank a bayonet in the ground and put a helmet on top and left a note praising the bravery.

My mistake .. Yes still he lead 12 men and accomplished his mission but was martyred by arty strike called in by another bunker nearby...


@Ajai Ghale. Here is a tribute video (and the story of his martyrdom)

Capt Muhammad Iqbal Shaheed ~ Pak-Army ~ SSG - Martyrs Of Motherland (Pak-Army) | Facebook

 

[Indus Pakistan]

In principle this is a crime and contrary to rules of war. I would expect if responsibility was established the accused to be punished accordingly and to the fullest extant of the law. Any such acts by anybody anywhere should be condemned without any reservations. However as regards to these allegations they are utterly fallacious. I was not there but if I was there and this happened on my watch I would dispose of those bodies. Thus nobody would be the wiser.

I would not like a muppet let those bodies leave the scene in case higher command took action against me and if I did I would expect somebody up the chain of command order "don't be retard get rid off bodies". Thus all you would have today is Lt Kalia "MIA" not Lt Kalia "forensic evidence" and you would not be posting this stupid thread.

In short the fact that those bodies were handed over which according to you were "evidence exhibits" tells you that either your allegation is baseless or the Pakistan Army is full of morons. In other words why would PA hand over those bodies to indict themselves?

To use Sherlock Holmes "it is elementary" .........

 

[Trisonics]

New Delhi

The Pakistan authorities have adamantly refused to acknowledge the involvement of Pakistan Army regulars in the misadventure in Kargil. The callousness and inhumanity with which they are persisting in this fiction is demonstrated in the current matter concerning the bodies of two officers of the Pakistan Army who had died in action on the Indian side of the Line of Control in Kargil. The body of Capt. Imtiaz Malik of 165 Mortar Regiment was found at Point 4875 in the Mushkoh sub-sector. The body of Capt. Karnal Sher of 12 Northern Light Infantry was found on Tiger Hill in the Dras sub-sector. The identities of these two officers were established by correspondence found on their person. Both bodies are in possession of the Indian Army authorities.

The above information was conveyed to the Pakistan government on July12. We informed the Pakistani authorities that we would like to hand over the bodies to them. We did not receive any response. Subsequently, the International committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) approached Government of India on July 13, stating that Pakistan government had requested them to contact the Government of India for handing over the bodies of the two officers about which they had heard. The Pakistani request did not specify the names and identities of the two officers, despite the information being available to them. The reason is obvious. The Pakistan authorities realised that if they conceded the identities of these two officers, it would demolish the myth that Pakistan army was not involved in Kargil. We provided ICRC with this information, along with the photographs of the bodies and copies of correspondence found on their person, which identify them as above.

The Pakistan Government conveyed through ICRC that the material we had furnished was "insufficient" to establish the identities of the officers, and that they would like the bodies to be handed over and taken to Islamabad for verification. It is clear that this was again an attempt to obscure and evade the fact that these were bodies of officers of the Pakistan Army involved in the Kargil operation. We offered to the Pakistan authorities through the ICRC that we would be ready to receive in India persons, including their family members, deputed by the Government of Pakistan to come to India and verify the identity of the officers and take over the bodies. We had pointed out that it is unprecedented and unheard of for bodies to be sent abroad in this fashion for the purpose of identification, even before their nationality and military identity are established. If Pakistan doubts them, it is for their representatives to come and see the bodies. We have not yet received a response from Pakistan through the ICRC.

It is clear that Pakistan is fully aware of the identities of these bodies but they do not wish to acknowledge this fact as it would immediately expose their army’s involvement in Kargil. Hence, their persistent and callous refusal to do so, they are doing great disservice to the families of their soldiers and to the traditions of armed forces everywhere.

The Government of India had conveyed to the ICRC that because of the weather conditions, the condition of bodies is deteriorating and the ICRC should come back with the response from Pakistan by 1100 hrs. IST on July 15. Pakistan has not conveyed their response. In view of the humanitarian nature of the problem, the Indian Army authorities will wait as long as it is possible, to get a response from Pakistan authorities through the ICRC.
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Kargil tragedy: Dead soldier’s family still waiting to receive his body - The Express Tribune

 

[Ajai Ghale]

My mistake .. Yes still he lead 12 men and accomplished his mission but was martyred by arty strike called in by another Bunker nearby...[/

My mistake .. Yes still he lead 12 men and accomplished his mission but was martyred by arty strike called in by another bunker nearby...


@Ajai Ghale. Here is a tribute video (and the story of his martyrdom)

Capt Muhammad Iqbal Shaheed ~ Pak-Army ~ SSG - Martyrs Of Motherland (Pak-Army) | Facebook

I am not sure how did he died by Art or En action.

Their target was Indian posts of Ashok and U-Cut, referred to as Rana and Akbar Posts by the Pakistanis manned by Nb Sub Lekh Raj along with seven other men Also they had TOW ATGM support and they used that too the JCO instantaneously along with two other men martyred,the remaining 5 hold the post until the support arrived by MI 26.

 

[Strigon]

In principle this is a crime and contrary to rules of war. Any such acts by anybody anywhere should be condemned without any reservations. However as regards to these allegations they are utterly fallacious. I was not there but if I was there and this happened on my watch I would dispose of those bodies. Thus nobody woube be the wiser.

I would not like a muppet let those bodies leave the scene in case higher command took action against and if I did I would expect somebody up the chain of command order "don't be retard get rid off bodies". Thus all you would have today is Lt Kalia "MIA" not Lt Kalia "forensic evidence" and you would not be posting this stupid thread.

In short the fact that those bodies were handed over which according to you were "evidence exhibits" tells you that either your allegation is baseless or the Pakistan Army is full of morons. In other words why would PA hand over those bodies to indict themselves?

To use Sherlock Holmes "it is elementary" .........

It's not in their ability to think that far or maybe they just don't want to consider those obvious facts and hoping for a story cook up to try to inflict damage any way possible.

 

[Hyperion]

GoI needs to raise the issue through proper channel, prove it, and I can guarantee that Pakistan will abide by all the rules set-out under Geneva Convention, and the culprits will pay with their lives.

One thing I'm sure of, PA is highly disciplined, and is above such petty criminal activities. Sadly, can't say the same for IA of 2015.

 

[Zarvan]

Pakistanis have small hearts, what can we expect from them. I am blaming Indian government from keeping mum on the whole issue for the last 15 years.

The kind of allegations your Army has on itself in Kashmir and other parts from rapes to mass graves and other mass crimes.

 

[Ajai Ghale]

New Delhi

The Pakistan authorities have adamantly refused to acknowledge the involvement of Pakistan Army regulars in the misadventure in Kargil. The callousness and inhumanity with which they are persisting in this fiction is demonstrated in the current matter concerning the bodies of two officers of the Pakistan Army who had died in action on the Indian side of the Line of Control in Kargil. The body of Capt. Imtiaz Malik of 165 Mortar Regiment was found at Point 4875 in the Mushkoh sub-sector. The body of Capt. Karnal Sher of 12 Northern Light Infantry was found on Tiger Hill in the Dras sub-sector. The identities of these two officers were established by correspondence found on their person. Both bodies are in possession of the Indian Army authorities.

The above information was conveyed to the Pakistan government on July12. We informed the Pakistani authorities that we would like to hand over the bodies to them. We did not receive any response. Subsequently, the International committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) approached Government of India on July 13, stating that Pakistan government had requested them to contact the Government of India for handing over the bodies of the two officers about which they had heard. The Pakistani request did not specify the names and identities of the two officers, despite the information being available to them. The reason is obvious. The Pakistan authorities realised that if they conceded the identities of these two officers, it would demolish the myth that Pakistan army was not involved in Kargil. We provided ICRC with this information, along with the photographs of the bodies and copies of correspondence found on their person, which identify them as above.

The Pakistan Government conveyed through ICRC that the material we had furnished was "insufficient" to establish the identities of the officers, and that they would like the bodies to be handed over and taken to Islamabad for verification. It is clear that this was again an attempt to obscure and evade the fact that these were bodies of officers of the Pakistan Army involved in the Kargil operation. We offered to the Pakistan authorities through the ICRC that we would be ready to receive in India persons, including their family members, deputed by the Government of Pakistan to come to India and verify the identity of the officers and take over the bodies. We had pointed out that it is unprecedented and unheard of for bodies to be sent abroad in this fashion for the purpose of identification, even before their nationality and military identity are established. If Pakistan doubts them, it is for their representatives to come and see the bodies. We have not yet received a response from Pakistan through the ICRC.

It is clear that Pakistan is fully aware of the identities of these bodies but they do not wish to acknowledge this fact as it would immediately expose their army’s involvement in Kargil. Hence, their persistent and callous refusal to do so, they are doing great disservice to the families of their soldiers and to the traditions of armed forces everywhere.

The Government of India had conveyed to the ICRC that because of the weather conditions, the condition of bodies is deteriorating and the ICRC should come back with the response from Pakistan by 1100 hrs. IST on July 15. Pakistan has not conveyed their response. In view of the humanitarian nature of the problem, the Indian Army authorities will wait as long as it is possible, to get a response from Pakistan authorities through the ICRC.
Welcome to Embassy of India, Washington D C, USA

Kargil tragedy: Dead soldier’s family still waiting to receive his body - The Express Tribune

There were 249 unaccounted bodies in Kargil on various peaks.

 

[ZYXW]

And your source is wiki? A round of an applause!

brilliant.

 

[xyxmt]

Allah kisi ko Indians jesa back stabbing neighbor kabhi na de
these people have no morality, they will lie till their faces become even uglier