Yes, we killed Captain Saurabh Kalia: Pak soldier

[A.Rafay]

what about freedom of balochistan ?

Balochis are living freely in Pakistan, bunch of terrorists supported by you via Afghanistan is not going to seperate it from Pakistan.

 

[StormShadow]

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[doppelganger]

Balochis are living freely in Pakistan, bunch of terrorists supported by you via Afghanistan is not going to seperate it from Pakistan.

They are militants fighting for their freedom. Freedom fighters, not terrorists.

 

[A.Rafay]

They are militants fighting for their freedom. Freedom fighters, not terrorists.

They are foriegn terrorists, their bases are in Afghanistan, kunar and noristan provinces, karzai openly admitted his govt supports them.

 

[doppelganger]

They are foriegn terrorists, their bases are in Afghanistan, kunar and noristan provinces, karzai openly admitted his govt supports them.

They are sons of the soil fighting for their freedom from a nation they never wanted to be part of since it was created.

Your soldiers are illegal occupiers there and deserve to be killed with extreme prejudice by these freedom fighters.

 

[Pulsar]

Who is Captain Saurabh Kalia ? Spiderman?

It's none of your business! Do you always have to poke your blessed nose in everything?

 

[me_itsme]

Okay. First of all PA has an org is a very professional army and its saddening Capt. Kalia lost his life defending the country but it was a dirty war. Now the problem is Capt. Kalia was not killed in battle he was captured and MURDERED and how can anybody be proud about it? Its a very disgusting act, PA has a whole cannot be blamed for this as there are good and honorable officers and soldiers as well the one who needs to be blamed or punished is the particular unit or the units CO who let this happen. Cause it was MURDERING a POW. Its a very unprofessional act by that particular unit of the PA.

 

[A.Rafay]

They are sons of the soil fighting for their freedom from a nation they never wanted to be part of since it was created.

Your soldiers are illegal occupiers there and deserve to be killed with extreme prejudice by these freedom fighters.

@DESERT FIGHTER is a balochi, you ask him if they are his freedom fighters or not. There are no curfews in Balochistan, no civilians getting killed by army, no protesters being shot by army, unlike kashmir where your coward army kills protesters right after Friday prayers.

 

[punjabilion]

Balochis are living freely in Pakistan, bunch of terrorists supported by you via Afghanistan is not going to seperate it from Pakistan.

time wil tell you. keep dreaming.

 

[A.Rafay]

It's none of your business! Do you always have to poke your blessed nose in everything?

He is a Pakistani and he deserves to know that his brave army soldiers killed this kalia with his other partners when they tried to cross the border and capture a PA check post.

 

[A.Rafay]

time wil tell you. keep dreaming.

You wake up kid from your dreams of breaking Pakistan.

 

[doppelganger]

@DESERT FIGHTER is a balochi, you ask him if they are his freedom fighters or not. There are no curfews in Balochistan, no civilians getting killed by army, no protesters being shot by army, unlike kashmir where your coward army kills protesters right after Friday prayers.

One Desert Fighter does not make all of the Baloch struggle for freedom. For which they have fought 4 or 5 wars of freedom against your occupying forces. For which your forces straffe entire villages from the air. Every Pakistani soldier in Balochistan is a legitimate target.

The only difference between you and me is that when one more of your soldiers gets killed there, I will not make fun of that. It will just be a grim reminder and vindication for me as an Indian that wherever possible, we need to do our bit as a responsible country in preventing this tyranny and genocide next door to us.

With men, money, arms, whatever they need. They will and should get. From our tax money. With the overt and covert support of our state.

 

[Hyperion]

And you said you had problems with English, apparently "shame" is part of the limited vocabulary.

Shame karr liya? Abb jao so jao, munna bhai.......

shame on pak army

 

[Sugarcane]

And you said you had problems with English, apparently "shame" is part of the limited vocabulary.

Shame karr liya? Abb jao so jao, munna bhai.......

Munay ka kachaa gilla hai, nahi so paaay ga

 

[madooxno9]

On the of latest edition, (telecast a few hours ago, on the evening of the 15th of January, 2013) of ‘The Buck Stops Here’, (a flagship news show on NDTV anchored by Barkha Dutt) – ‘India-Pakistan:Another Tipping Point‘, Admiral (Retd.) Ramdas, former chief of the Indian Navy said he knew that Indian forces have beheaded Pakistani soldiers in the past. Gen. (Retd.) V.P. Malik, former chief of the Indian Army contradicted him, and said this had never happened. Barkha Dutt was silent on this matter.

Below is a summary of some highlights of the discussion.

Around 21:15 minutes into the programme, Admiral Ramdas says, “Beheading of Troops has been going on from both sides has been for some time, I mean there is evidence of this…”

Barkha Dutt, eager to change the subject, nervously interjects and says ‘I want you to comment, Sir, on Sporting and Cultural ties, because that is what has been hit today…’. Why is she so anxious to change the subject? Is it because Admiral Ramdas is clearly speaking about something she personally does not want spoken about?

Then, a little later, Ms. Dutt asks Gen. Malik to speak, she also asks him to talk whether ‘Sporting and Cultural Ties should become the fall-guy’.

Gen. V.P. Malik says (around 24:40 minutes into the program), “…And I don’t agree with Admiral (Ram) Das that both sides have been doing this, I would like to see anybody give me one instance where this kind of inhuman act has been done by the Indian army… I know that with great respect, we not only buried their bodies with great respect…we returned any body that they asked for.”

Barkha Dutt knows what Admiral Ramdas was talking about. As has been pointed out before on Kafila, she has written about it (the decapitation of Pakistani soldiers by the Indian army during the Kargil conflict in the summer of 1999) herself in Himal magazine (June, 2001).

I had to look three times to make sure I was seeing right. Balanced on one knee, in a tiny alley behind the army’s administrative offices, I was peering through a hole in a corrugated tin sheet. At first glance, all I could see were some leaves. I looked harder and amidst all the green, there was a hint of black—it looked like a moustache. “Look again,” said the army colonel, in a tone that betrayed suppressed excitement. This time, I finally saw.

It was a head, the disembodied face of a slain soldier nailed onto a tree. “The boys got it as a gift for the brigade,” said the colonel, softly, but proudly.

So that is an instance where ‘this kind of inhuman act’ did happen. So why did she not say so to Gen. Malik. She is not ‘anybody’, she was there, and this is an issue that is being discussed on a show that she is anchoring. How long can it be before she gets called out for the gross irresponsibility of her reticence on this very crucial matter. Was she lying in 2001, or, is she concealing the truth now?

But the buck, doesn’t stop here.

Then, a BJP Politician and spokesman for his party, Ravi Shankar Prasad is asked by Barkha Dutt about the NDA’s record on India-Pakistan relations. She mentions Vajpayee as the architect of the India Pakistan Peace Process , Kargil, Parliament Attack, Hijacking of IC 814, Historic Ceasefire of 2003 etc.

Ravi Shankar Prasad begins, not by immediately addressing Barkha Dutt’s question, but by contradicting Admiral Ramdas. Around 26:39 minutes into the program, Ravi Shankar Prasad says – “…Mr. Ramdas has been a distinguished Naval chief, but for him to make a comment that even Indian forces have been beheading, I am happy Gen. Malik contradicted him very conclusively, Admiral Ramdas you need to understand that Pakistani people will lap up your comment, and seek to condemn Indian army in no uncertain terms, I am seeing that happening, for heavens sake don’t make these sweeping comments.”

“Don’t call on Heaven, Mr. Prasad” (Admiral Ramdas says, attempting to interject) but Barkha Dutt doesn’t let him speak. Once again, she does not contradict, question or challenge Ravi Shankar Prasad. Her evasion in this matter, at this point, when it has popped up on her program for the third time now, is a truly sweeping statement.

Then, Barkha Dutt moves on to Congress spokesman, Avishek Manu Singhvi, and other matters, and other panelists, Ashutosh Varshney and Leela Ponnappa, the question that Admiral Ramdas raised is forgotten, but it lingers, silent, and sullen, like the ghost of a beheaded soldier in the studio.

At the end of the programme, Shahvar Ali Khan, a musician from Lahore, Pakistan says “All the peace loving people of Pakistan are with the grief of the people of India.” He hopes that the present situation will not affect cultural and social ties.

Ravi Shankar Prasad says that he loves Pakistani Ghazal songs, but says artists, sportsmen and people who want peace are “fringe players”.

Then, Barkha Dutt asks Admiral Ramdas for a comment. He says, “If for so many years things have gone wrong, the fault lies not with sportsmen and artists, why punish them for what why have not done?”

Who makes the constituency of peace a fringe, and who makes the dogs of war, the people Shahvar Ali Khan calls the ‘hate-mongers’, on either side of the LOC, occupy the centre-stage, again and again?

If an important television journalist like Barkha Dutt talks about the fact that both armies have committed acts of savagery, which, I repeat, she says she knows, because she has said that she has seen this with her own eyes, it will weaken the dogs of war. This admission, coming from a public figure like her, will make it more difficult for the war-party on either side of the LOC to point their fingers only at people across the border.

Nothing can strengthen the constituency of peace more at this crucial juncture, than a little honest and public introspection, on both sides. Let us hope that will occur. Barkha Dutt can set the ball rolling, if she chooses to. The buck, starts with her.

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