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EXCLUSIF. Comment Hollande avait prévu de frapper la Syrie - 29 septembre 2013 - L'Obs
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"The strikes are tonight." On Saturday 31 August, in the morning, the most senior French officials, civilian and military, are convinced that the president will trigger the punitive bombing of Syria the following night. Even more amazing: Hollande himself also believed. And this incredible mistake will last until the end of the afternoon. Meanwhile, for ten hours, the state machinery has been set in motion to make these Franco-American keystrokes, "sell" the view and manage the diplomatic consequences.

This crazy day begins at 3 am on Saturday 31 August, when the duty officer in charge of communications of the President of the Republic receives a call from his US counterpart. It warns that Obama will call Francois Hollande on direct and secure line that connects to the Elysee White House. When? The same day at 18:15, Paris time. The transatlantic misunderstanding begins - a laughable misunderstanding if it was no war.

Council of war

Time shift, the diplomatic adviser to François Hollande, Paul Jean-Ortiz, discovers the message of the White House at 8:00, when he arrives at his office, rue de l'Elysee. It prevents illico Francois Hollande, who decides to convene a small board just after the call from Barack Obama. Must be present Ministers of Defense, Interior and Foreign Affairs, as well as the "big subordinates": Chief of Staff, the bosses of the DGSE and military intelligence ... A council of war after which the head of state will give the formal order of the early French strikes in Syria. This is at least what is believed Hollande and with it, all called personalities.

This August 31 morning, the Elysee would ask the military to be ready to execute this order supposed imminent.

The plan was to bomb overnight, starting at 3 am when people are asleep, says a senior French official. It was to destroy missile batteries and command centers of the Fourth Army, "

The strikes must be carried out by several flying Rafale in the Mediterranean, over international waters. "We did not want to shoot from the Turkish sky, tells another. We were concerned that Assad does not invoke self-defense and strikes its neighbor, which could involve NATO."



There is a catch: the Scalp cruise missiles designed for operation with a maximum range of 250 km, the French strike will only take place in western Syria, Damascus understood. The Americans will take care of everything else. "But we do not depend on them for our fire and our refueling, be held to clarify Defense There is one thing that we do not totally proficient. This is the schedule that would give Obama. starting signal. "

Evidence "declassified"

To prove to the opinion that François Hollande does not act in the wake of the US, so Tony Blair during the Iraq war, the Elysee also decides this Saturday, Aug. 31, to "declassify" some evidence of French chemical attack. "We called the document" Summary declassified National Intelligence 'and we have a blue flag, white, red on every page, "said one official. And in anticipation of the evening strikes, the Ministry of Defence fuiter this text in the "Journal du Dimanche" to be released the next day.

The entire operation of communication plan is established during a meeting at 14:30 that Saturday in the office of Paul Jean-Ortiz, with the chiefs of staff of key ministries. "We discussed the images to provide news, those of the rise of the operation which were already ready, and those of the first strike that could deliver very quickly," said an official. "We also discussed the time he would inform some foreign personalities, says one of the participants. It seemed clear that Hollande would prevent himself Angela Merkel, just after the stroke of Obama's lead."

"The big day had arrived"

Where does this certainty that the US president will give the starting signal this Saturday? "Everything led us to believe that the big day had arrived," said a French official. It had been a week that the prospect of a Franco-American military action against Syria appeared inevitable.

It all started last Sunday, that is to say, four days after the chemical attack against the civilian population, when Barack Obama and Francois Hollande discussed several types of "punishment", including military. "The next day, the staffs of the two countries began to work towards a common strike plan", they say in the Ministry of Defence.

Certainly, the days could just derail. On Wednesday, in London, the House of Commons voted against British participation in these strikes. And we know least, on Thursday, the French and their allies have missed their "blitz" to confer diplomatic, if not a legal, at least some international legitimacy for military action against Syria. They hoped to gather a majority of votes in the Security Council, and thus compel Beijing and Moscow to veto. Despite the efforts of Laurent Fabius, Paris, London and Washington have failed, according to our information, to rally a sufficient number (six) of votes of non-permanent members of said Board. So the idea to go through the UN was abandoned.

Yet this weekend, Americans are still determined. On Thursday, the Obama adviser for security, Susan Rice, informed Paul Jean-Ortiz, despite the British defection and the UN setback, his boss is "close to go." And the next day, Friday 30, several indicators from Washington suggest that the French American strikes are imminent. "That day, John Kerry met several times with Laurent Fabius, ensures an official. He said that Obama had asked him to" prepare public opinion for strikes. "During this same day, said another, "the White House released its evidence on chemical slaughter".
And still this Friday, Francois Hollande and Barack Obama were again discussed at length. The US president said he has not yet made its final decision, but that it will not be long. He added that the strikes could take place soon, "before or after the G20," he said. "Let us remember tomorrow or after tomorrow," he concluded.

Obama's reversal

So that in the announcement of a new call from the White House advisors are convinced that Francois Hollande Saturday, August 31 that the US president has ruled in the night and it will trigger the night operation or even later in the night of Sunday (unlikely event since it went to Europe the next day). No one at the Elysee guess after receiving a letter from 186 parliamentarians asking him to vote the Congress Barack Obama decided last minute to give their reason much less that the primary responsibility for the House of Representatives and Senate already know - several hours so before Hollande ...

"I decided to go, said the head of the White House to his French counterpart on Saturday at 18:15, but I will first seek Congressional approval." François Hollande is stunned. He tries to convince the American president to reconsider his decision - in vain. The head of state then joined the men he was summoned in the green room for a small board. He ordered the military to recall the Rafale and evokes the next firing windows. The general opinion, the fact remains that: around 15 September between the vote of US lawmakers and the opening of the United Nations General Assembly. "After it will be very difficult, if not impossible," they should. This final window will be closed the following week by a clever diplomatic maneuver Vladimir Putin.
 
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Nice find but Gougueule trance makes it very hard to read and I'm very busy.

Maybe tomorrow, maybe!

Bonjour chez vous mon gars, Tay.
 
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Yes you are right!
I would like to translate everything,but my «skills» in English does not permit me to do that! :lol:



It would be great,Merci !
Appreciate the effort. Very good thread :tup:

There is a slight error in this report. The Scalp's range at sea level is 250km ~ 300km. Launched from 30k ft ~ 40k ft it's more ;)
 
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Do not permit, MDR! It's do not permit because of skills, plurals oppose in English …
Which proves your point, oeuf corse!

And yes Indus but mil specs sheets apart, most stories in the press are off on the numbers.
Lack of specialized knowledge, laziness, you name it my friend, the result is drivel as norm.

Worldwide too, no preference need apply, tsssssss. Tay.
 
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Do not permit, MDR! It's do not permit because of skills, plurals oppose in English …
Which proves your point, oeuf corse!

And yes Indus but mil specs sheets apart, most stories in the press are off on the numbers.
Lack of specialized knowledge, laziness, you name it my friend, the result is drivel as norm.

Worldwide too, no preference need apply, tsssssss. Tay.

In Afghanistan,we had serious problems of communication with the US soldiers.... I won't explain why. :raise:
Poor them ! or poor us?
 
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In Afghanistan,we had serious problems of communication with the US soldiers.... I won't explain why. :raise:
Poor them ! or poor us?

Hahaha, I actually keep pocket Dansk to Engelsk dictionary with me when in Afghanistan, just for when we see the Americans. I know this problem well.

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Well it would be nice if you did.

French/Frenchies ≠ English

Not really hard to understand. :partay:

But i expect @Taygibay to be a false flagger. (not possible that his English is excellent. :sick: )

Hahaha, I actually keep pocket Dansk to Engelsk dictionary with me when in Afghanistan, just for when we see the Americans. I know this problem well.

61Xf1SbPcdL._SL500_SY344_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg

I won't even talk about when we had to communicate with British soldiers... Too fast to understand,and their accent makes it even harder to understand them. :sick: @mike2000 is back

Ok,now i'll stop the off topic. :sick:
 
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French/Frenchies ≠ English

Not really hard to understand. :partay:

But i expect @Taygibay to be a false flagger. (not possible that his English is excellent. :sick: )



I won't even talk about when we had to communicate with British soldiers... Too fast to understand,and their accent makes it even harder to understand them. :sick: @mike2000 is back

Ok,now i'll stop the off topic. :sick:

Lool French accent while speaking english is the best, So that's a plus at least. :enjoy:

As for the report, our public has become very very wary of any fireign wars/intervention since the Iraq fiasco. While it seems to be the opposite with France, which is surprising since we have always been more warlike.:D Well i think without our parliament voting against strikes in Syria back then, Western powers led by U.S/U.K and France would have intervened/invaded Syria that period. Anyway we cant go back in time, whats done is done. Hopefully, our public will soon come to acknowledge the realities in the world and how/why we have to keep protecting our interests globally by all means. :pop:.
 
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French can eat only cheez nothing more when bear is Syria no threat to asad from cheezman called Hollende keep milking Arabs that what French fries can do atleast .
 
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French can eat only cheez nothing more when bear is Syria no threat to asad from cheezman called Hollende keep milking Arabs that what French fries can do atleast .

Thank you for this constructive comment.


Lool French accent while speaking english is the best, So that's a plus at least. :enjoy:

As for the report, our public has become very very wary of any fireign wars/intervention since the Iraq fiasco. While it seems to be the opposite with France, which is surprising since we have always been more warlike.:D Well i think without our parliament voting against strikes in Syria back then, Western powers led by U.S/U.K and France would have intervened/invaded Syria that period. Anyway we cant go back in time, whats done is done. Hopefully, our public will soon come to acknowledge the realities in the world and how/why we have to keep protecting our interests globally by all means. :pop:.

At least,we can see a big difference between France and many countries in the world including UK,it seems that to engage in a war/operation,you need the parliaments approval,which isnt the case here.... since the President is «Le chef des armées»....
 
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Lool French accent while speaking english is the best, So that's a plus at least.
Well, I don't get the plus then as my accent is from a land Her Gracious Majesty Elizabeth II reigns where I grew up …
mixed with US where I lived later. :sad:

French can eat only cheez nothing more when bear is Syria no threat to asad from cheezman called Hollende keep milking Arabs that what French fries can do atleast .
Sure, why not, 100% beyond you! Go mate, go! o_O

U wot m8? You wan some! I'll giv it ya!
LOL One pint too many there! Probably a gunner! 8-)

At least,we can see a big difference between France and many countries in the world including UK,it seems that to engage in a war/operation,you need the parliaments approval,which isnt the case here.... since the President is «Le chef des armées»....
Much more practical that way when time counts. I encourage all to check the reaction time in Mali 2013 : -24H.
Really minus!
Lt Damien Boiteux died as his Gazelle attacked a column near Sévaré January the 11th.
Mali had called us first but asked for international help from the UN the 12th, a day later.
Getting there before the call? We should have the French Armed Forces deliver pizza,
we'd make a killing ( pun intended ).

Ding Dong!
Door opens : -Yes?
"Here's your pizza, sir!"
- We didn't order pizza???
"But you are hungry, right?" Wink, Wink!
-OOOH! OK' how much?

French Army, your war in 30 days or less or it's on us!

:D Tay.


P.S.

But i expect @Taygibay to be a false flagger.

Yeah! CIA agent here! We're trying to make the French look good for a change! It's a new program!


:rolleyes1:
 
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We did not want to shoot from the Turkish sky, tells another. We were concerned that Assad does not invoke self-defense and strikes its neighbor, which could involve NATO."

Look at the arrogance here...as if Turkey would let you.... :lol:

Anyways, if French had hit Assad that day, Europe wouldn't be dealing with the refugees now.
 
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