Hitler's speech they don't want you to listen

[Desert Fox]

Hitler and Hitler's Germany were Good people

Myths:
Was he racist - no , why would he ally Japan , Asians non whites

Myths:
He was mad man - no just a man who wanted prosperity for his people , in his own Sovereign country

Myths:
He was guilty or war crime genocide
Not really , Allied forces , did similar acts "it was all out war and food was not found easily so people died of hunger and starvation



Hilter's main goals:

a) Stop US , British ambitions and imperialistic goals
b) Form an alliance against tyranny


BIGGEST GOAL AFTER FIRST WORLD WAR ... ALLIED FORCES FORCED GERMANY TO PAY RANSOM FEE IN BILLIONS , WHICH IS EQUAL TO FEW TRILLION BY TODAYS STANDARD , IT RAISED POVERTY IN GERMANY AND PEOPLE WANTED TO STOP THAT PAYMENT AND ILLEGAL SLAVERY....GERMANY PAID THE LAST RANSOM FEE AROUND 2002 ... and finally they were free of this BURDEN

To me he seems like a Honest , good guy !! He was just portrayed by Evil media , and authors who orchestrated lies to help propaganda lies

Mr Hitler did not hate Indian or Pakistanis

Infact it was BRITISH who ruled and made us SLAVES !!!! if it was not for Hiter we would still be slaves to BRITISH

So for me , he was a Saint .. thank you Hitler for breaking British Backs and freeing Subcontinent people



Why Demonize Hitler?

Simple- in order to justify war , you have to make a person look evil , and character assassination is a must

Here is my post from another thread, i'll post it here because it is of every relevance to the topic we are discussing:

"First of all, i find it very amusing that the people who despise the Western regimes for invading Muslim countries, killing innocent Muslims, supporting regimes that also kill innocent people, and for the negative propaganda about Muslim countries (in this case, Pakistan in particular), however these same people believe the nonsense western propaganda about Germany during WW2, this is what i call hypocrisy. On one hand your denying the propaganda against Pakistan, but on the other hand you believe the lies about the NAZI's? Double standards at its best.

The NAZI's were National Socialists, they turned Germany into a economically stable country, they provided jobs to the jobless, homes to the homeless, under National Socialism Germany was the first country to pull itself out of the great depression. By 1936, while countries like US and Britain didn't have enough jobs for their men, Germany didn't have enough men for its jobs. National Socialist provided youth programs to keep the German youth away from drugs, crimes, gangs, and to encourage family life in German society.

Now what pissed off the west? Germany under National Socialism became an example of a stable and prosperous country during a time when the rest of the world was still in economic depression, it basically provided an alternative system to Capitalism and Bolshevik Communism, not only this, but Germany no longer depended on international banks to bail itself out of the depression and to pay its debt (much like how today Pakistan depends on the IMF), interest and usury was also abolished under National Socialism in Germany.

Now you might think that this is no big deal, but it is of the utmost importance to understand that before the National Socialists came to power, Germany was an occupied country, you had foreign ideologies trying to make their way into the minds of young Germans, you had rampant crime, prostitution, drugs smuggling, homelessness, joblessness, people dieing of hunger and malnutrition, you had a country that was stripped of its pride and dignity, humiliated and blamed for a war it did not even start. Chunks of German land were annexed by its neighboring countries.

Since Pakistan is already blamed for supporting terrorism (even though NATO supported al-ciada in Libya), now imagine Pakistan gets invaded, its armed forces cut down to a very small size to an extent that they are as good as useless, indian troops are allowed to occupy Punjab, Kashmir is annexed by india, and Khyber Pakhtunkhwa is given to Afghanistan, Balochistan becomes a independent country, and what is left of Pakistan is forced to pay trillions of dollars for reparations even though its economy is in shambles, therefore it plunges into immense poverty and the middle class is completely destroyed,now imagine if a close relative of yours had to resort to crime or prostitution in order to make a living in such difficult and humiliating conditions which were imposed on your country and countrymen by foreign powers. Now you tell me."
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/147112-nazism-vs-zionism-4.html#post2405797

 

[The HBS Guy]

German Soldiers of different Ethnic and Racial Backgrounds (including Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, etc):

Hitler was also a 'friend' to the Russians. It was only much later that the Russians had a tryst with the bitter truth.

The same Russians who followed the ideology of a Jeuden (Marx) worthy of 'The Final Solution' in the words of Hitler himself.

Marriages of convenience last only as long as the convenience does.

The alliance between the Nazis, Japanese and the Indian soldiers of Azad Hind Fauj would have had the same fate as the German-Russian bonhomie had Hitler won the war.

 

[Desert Fox]

Hitler was also a 'friend' to the Russians. It was only much later that the Russians had a tryst with the bitter truth.

Marriages of convenience last only as long as the convenience does.

The alliance between the Nazis, Japanese and the Indian soldiers of Azad Hind Fauj would have had the same fate as the German-Russian bonhomie had Hitler won the war.

Judging from what you just posted (bolded part), i can tell that you have no clue of what your talking about. Hitler did the right thing by invading the Soviet Union, if only he had done it a few months earlier.

Joseph Stalin had already massed divisions after divisions of the Red army on the German front in occupied Poland, and knowing the shrewd character of Stalin, a man who wiped out almost all of his closest advisors as well as thousands of Red army officers previously, Hitler made the right decision, his timing was just a bit late, but he can't be blame for that since most of German Army resources were allocated towards Greece, France, and Britain, Hitler only had no more than 10 divisions at the Eastern Front.

So who in their right mind would want a man like Stalin as an ally?, Stalin was bound to betray Hitler if Hitler hadn't attacked first.

 

[The HBS Guy]

Judging from what you just posted (highlighted part), i can tell that you have no clue of what your talking about. Hitler did the right thing by invading the Soviet Union, if only he had done it a few months earlier.

Joseph Stalin had already massed divisions after divisions of the Red army on the German front in occupied Poland, and knowing the shrewd character of Stalin, a man who wiped out almost all of his closest advisors as well as thousands of Red army officers previously, Hitler made the right decision, his timing was just a bit late, but he can't be blame for that since most of German Army resources were allocated towards Greece, France, and Britain, Hitler only had no more than 10 divisions at the Eastern Front.

So who would want a man like Stalin as an ally, Stalin was bound to betray Hitler if Hitler hadn't attacked first.

We're not discussing the 'rihteousness' of Hitler's decision to wage war upon the Russians.

We're dicussing Hitler's wont to see to it that all those who do not fit into his picture of the world and of its races perish.

Even if Stalin had attacked Germany, Stalin had no intention whatsoever to extend his rule to the who world.

Something quite contrary to what Hitler wanted. You don't have to believe me. You just have to ask the French or the Polish.

 

[Desert Fox]

We're not discussing the 'rihteousness' of Hitler's decision to wage war upon the Russians.

Hitler never waged war upon the Russians, he waged war upon the Bolsheviks who are responsible for the deaths more than 60,000,000 Russian people.

In fact when Operation Barbarossa commenced, more than a million Russians joined the German Wehrmacht and even the SS to fight the red army on the Eastern front.

We're dicussing Hitler's wont to see to it that all those who do not fit into his picture of the world and its races perish.

Oh, yeah? Is that so? Quote from any of Hitler's public speeches or from his Book (which he himself wrote) Mein Kampf where he said he wants all non-Aryans to "perish"?

Even if Stalin had attacked Germany, Stalin had no intention whatsoever to extend his rule to the who world.

I don't know about the whole world, but Stalin certainly did want to take over Europe, and then maybe the whole world as well, considering how the USSR tried to expand its ideology to other parts of the world even after WW2 was over, even invading sovereign countries and forcefully annexing them right under the noses of the allies.

Something quite contrary to what Hitler wanted. You don't have to believe me. You just have to ask the French or the Polish.

Or you can also ask the Bulgarians, the Hungarians, Ukrainians, Romanians, Yugoslavians, Chechens, Cossacks, and numerous other ethnic groups of former Soviet Union how brutally they were massacred by the millions by good ol Stalin and other Soviet leaders, maybe then you can understand why they view the Nazis as their liberators and the allies as the betrayers.

 

[TheJewverine]

OP is suffering an identity crises. Coconut much?

 

[Zabaniyah]

Hitler was also a 'friend' to the Russians. It was only much later that the Russians had a tryst with the bitter truth.

The same Russians who followed the ideology of a Jeuden (Marx) worthy of 'The Final Solution' in the words of Hitler himself.

Marriages of convenience last only as long as the convenience does.

The alliance between the Nazis, Japanese and the Indian soldiers of Azad Hind Fauj would have had the same fate as the German-Russian bonhomie had Hitler won the war.

And thank God for that. I mean, really!

 

[Chogy]

Soldiers of different Ethnic and Racial Backgrounds (including Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, etc) who served under Germany during WW2:

Fox, those units were cannon-fodder for the Reich. Germany felt no great affection for them, and considered them second-rate. Their numbers increased dramatically in 1944 when Germany knew they were going to lose.

 

[Chogy]

Hitler never waged war upon the Russians, he waged war upon the Bolsheviks who are responsible for the deaths more than 60,000,000 Russian people.

Oh please, spare us from rhetoric like this. "We're fighting the Bolsheviks!! Not the average Russian!!" Unfortunately 20 million of them perished under a vicious "scorched earth" policy.

The following should shed some light on German race mentality. Consider: When British, French, U.S. and other "Western" soldiers became POW's, they received decent treatment. Reasonable food, not overly brutalized, etc. When Russians became POW's, being slavs, they were worse than animals, and millions of them died in captivity.

Denmark was greatly admired by Hitler as being a nation of blond, blue-eyed racially pure and admirable people. The Danes suffered far, far less under the German yoke than other nations. Now, go to Yugoslavia, Czechoslovakia, the Ukraine, and Russia circa 1941 to 1945, and compare the German overlords' behavior vs. Denmark.

Race and blood purity drove the Nazi train. It drove him insane when his elite Aryan boys were trounced by sub-human races in combat.

 

[anonymus]

I am no Hitler fan but there is no evidence of that. Hitler never gassed the Muslims in North Afirica

Hitler gassed nobody in north africa.Erwin Rommel was incharge of africa korps and he simply disregarded hitler's order to shoot even jewish PoW's.It was not for the lack of intention that there were no concentration camps in Africa.Also the contours of final solution were not finalised till october 6,1943 and germany had withdrawn from tunisia by 13 may,1943

 

[SinoChallenger]

Germans are a great people. The Third Reich was a grand vision, humane, modern, and a real alternative to the British Empire (which was back then biggest superpower in the world) but alas it failed. UK and US demonized the Third Reich as racist after the war but in fact it was not racist. The worse offenders in that category have always been the UK and US, because oceanic empires are founded on subjugating different colored people half-way around the world. The Third Reich was almost land-locked and the only kind of "racism" was between Germans and Western Slavs. But even then Germans never mistreated Slav civilians under their rule but only fought insurgents. It was more of an ideological conflict between Germans and Western Slavs, than anything "racist."

 

[Cloakedvessel]

This article seems very fitting in this topic:

The Führer Cult

Germans Cringe at Hitler's Popularity in Pakistan

By Hasnain Kazim in Islamabad, Pakistan

Germans are popular in India and Pakistan, but not always for the right reasons. Many in South Asia have nothing but admiration for Adolf Hitler and still associate Germany with the Third Reich. Everyday encounters with the love of all things Nazi makes German visitors cringe.

Pakistan is the opposite of Germany. The mountains are in the north, the sea is in the south, the economic problems are in the west and the east is doing well. It's not hard for a German living in Pakistan to get used to these differences, but one contrast is hard to stomach: Most people like Hitler.




I was recently at the hairdresser, an elderly man who doesn't resort to electric clippers. All he has is creaky pair of scissors, a comb, an aerosol with water. He did a neat job but I wasn't entirely happy.

I said: "I look like Hitler."

He looked at me in the mirror, gave a satisfied smile and said: "Yes, yes, very nice."

I decided not to challenge him, went home and tried to get rid of the strict parting he'd given me.

Embarrassing Moments

I was glad I avoided the usual Hitler conversation. Pakistanis always hone in on that topic whenever they talk to Germans. "We're Aryans too," they say, because there was an Indo-Germanic race, the Aryas. Besides, Hitler was a military genius, they add.

Sometimes it's better to keep quiet about one's German origins. It's embarrassing because people here think they're doing you a favor by expressing their admiration for the Nazi leader. I suspect most Indians and Pakistanis have no idea what this man did. They see him as the bold Führer who took on the British and Americans.

In the Islamic world, not just in Pakistan but right across from Iran to northern Africa, anti-Semitic sentiment of course plays a role. Conversations with German visitors rapidly turn to the injustice being suffered by the Palestinians who were robbed of their land.

The Desire to be Swallowed up by the Ground

One can try to cut such conversations short, like a German acquaintance of mine did recently. He told a taxi driver in Iran he should stop talking nonsense because he as a dark-skinned person wouldn't have survived long in Nazi Germany. The taxi driver looked at him surprised and said: "But I'm Aryan!"

The alternative is just to wish the ground would swallow you up, like when German friends visited us while we were staying with our Pakistani relatives in London. Out of the blue, one uncle started talking admiringly about Hitler, his supposed military feats and how he led Germany out of economic misery. Our friends just sat there stony-faced and didn't know what to say. Later on my parents apologized to them.

I don't know where this fascination comes from, not just for the Nazis but for all things German. Most people don't realize that today's Germany is very different from the Third Reich. It's not surprising. Many have never even been to the next big city in their own country, so how should they know what things are like in Germany these days?

"I Like Nazi"

As a result, many Pakistanis easily switch from Hitler to Mercedes ("Very excellent car, but a little too expensive"). A few days ago a white Mercedes built in the 1970s was driving ahead of me in the center of Islamabad carrying a family of seven. On the back was a sticker bearing a black swastika in a white circle. Underneath it read: "I like Nazi."

It's not just Muslims who maintain this Nazi cult. A few years ago, a Hindu businessman in India opened a restaurant called "Hitler's Cross," complete with a portrait of the Führer at the entrance. Another Hindu sold bed linen emblazoned with swastikas that had little to do with the Hindu swastika symbol for good luck. The sheets, pillow cases and bed spreads were advertised as being part of "The Nazi Collection." English editions of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" can be found in bookshops even in the most remote parts of India. And Indian schoolbooks have been known to celebrate Hitler as a great leader.

Once my wife and I visited the cafe in the beautiful Hotel Imperial in New Delhi. It has a garden lined with palms, excellent tea and friendly waiters in uniforms that recall the colonial era. A young man served us. The name tag on his uniform attracted my interest so I asked him why he had this rather unusual name for an Indian man. "Oh, my parents named me after a great historic person," he explained.

The name, in black letters on a golden plate, read: Adolf.

The Führer Cult: Germans Cringe at Hitler's Popularity in Pakistan - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

 

[untitled]

The above article does not point to the fact that if people admire Hitler in the subcontinent it is only for one reason. He was a threat to the British Raj. People saw him as a liberator of India. Hitler did not do atrocities in the sub continent the British did.

You also forgot Gandhi was in correspondence with the Fuhrer. Does that make him anti Semitic too ?

 

[SinoChallenger]

I was recently at the hairdresser, an elderly man who doesn't resort to electric clippers. All he has is creaky pair of scissors, a comb, an aerosol with water. He did a neat job but I wasn't entirely happy.

I said: "I look like Hitler."

He looked at me in the mirror, gave a satisfied smile and said: "Yes, yes, very nice."

I decided not to challenge him, went home and tried to get rid of the strict parting he'd given me.

LOL...... the barber gave him a Hitler hair cut and mustasche

 

[untitled]

LOL...... the barber gave him a Hitler air cut and mustasche

He could have said "I look look like Adenoid Hynkel"