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Distinctly upper-class, Mr Abhisit hails from a wealthy family of Thai-Chinese origin. Both his parents were medical professors.
BBC News - Profile: Abhisit Vejjajiva
One Abhist clan member claim they are my tribe, Taiwanese speaker.
Vejjajiva ancestry revealed
With reference to Leonie Vejjajiva's letter, I should like, as a member of that family, to clarify and set the record straight.
Our ancestors were Chinese belonging to the dialect group called "Hokkien", prevalent in the coastal province of Hokkien or Fujian, with the clan name (Sae) of Ouan (Hokkien pronunciation), or Yuan in Mandarin. They, however, did not come to Siam directly from the Chinese province, but had settled in Kampot, a seaport now in Cambodia but then under Annamese (Vietnamese) rule, from where they set foot on Thai soil in Chanthaburi in the year 1833 during the reign of King Rama III.
The Hokkiens were the first Chinese to arrive in Ayutthaya, in the 18th century, and spread all over the country, especially in the South and Southeast, on the trading sea route from China. The Na Songkla and the Na Ranong families as well as the Krairikshs are of Hokkien descent. This is not to be (but often) confused with another Chinese dialect group known in English as Hakkas but as "Khae" in the Thai language, to which many well-known figures and families belong, such as Mr Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore and the famous Lamsam family of Thailand. So if Leonie Vejjajiva's "theory" about the "tall" Hakkas and the inherited "syndromes of heart, psychiatric and blood diseases" is to be pursued, I would suggest that she turn to such Hakka descendants for verification.
Intermarriage seems to be blamed by Leonie Vejjajiva for the afflictions suffered by her family, presumably her children. At Chantaburi, where there has always been a closely-knit community of people sharing the Hokkien bloodline, marriage between members of community families have over the years been quite common, thus making the numerous descendants "relatives". Such intermarriages are not uncommon in other communities and indeed Thai society generally, without any implication or insinuation as to heath or inherited disease, a fact appreciated even by many foreigners, but incomprehensible perhaps to some who refuse to understand even after spending as many as 50 years in our midst. A more pertinent point to ponder in this case is whether rather than putting the blame on "intermarriage," one should not turn attention to miscegenation, defined as "the inter-breeding of people of different races", especially in light of the unknown or unaccounted for foreign gene.
Leonie Vejjajiva mentioned in her letter about her plan to write a book about my own family. I certainly feel a little flattered, and would wish her well, provided that the book, as written by an educated, well-informed and unprejudiced author, shall refrain from any precipitous judgement or indeed any venom.
Hun Sen Chinese ancestry.
"Some officials now mention that Hun Sen's grandfather was Chinese".
Time - Briton Hadden, Henry Robinson Luce - Google Books
In Wiki, Hun Sen was born in Kampong Cham, and was the third child of six children to a peasant family. His father, Hun Neang, was a resident monk in a local Wat in Kampong Cham province before defrocking himself to join the French resistance and married Hun Sen's mother, Dee Yon in the 1940s. Hun Neang's paternal grandparents were wealthy landowners of Teochew Chinese heritage.
Hun Sen's wife has roots from Hainan of China.
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The Norodom and Sisowath are quite mestizo according some Chinese articles I have read. Can't cite URL with you at this moment.
That is only true to some extend in Shenzhen and Pearl River Delta. Places like Guangzhou, Guangdong province, Guangxi, HK, Fujian and Taiwan are very Southern Chinese.
Surprisingly Yunan Han Chinese are quite Northern Chinese phenotype. The minorities are overwhelmingly Southern Chinese phenotype.
I wonder if Vietnamese can really spot me out as a Chinese. I have been Vietnam and blend in like local if I do not speak. But Northern Chinese are really distinguishable.
I am from Fujian, just like Abhisit.
Just want to ask, if Thaksin, Yingluck, Abhisit walk in Saigon, can you tell the differences?
BBC News - Profile: Abhisit Vejjajiva
One Abhist clan member claim they are my tribe, Taiwanese speaker.
Vejjajiva ancestry revealed
With reference to Leonie Vejjajiva's letter, I should like, as a member of that family, to clarify and set the record straight.
Our ancestors were Chinese belonging to the dialect group called "Hokkien", prevalent in the coastal province of Hokkien or Fujian, with the clan name (Sae) of Ouan (Hokkien pronunciation), or Yuan in Mandarin. They, however, did not come to Siam directly from the Chinese province, but had settled in Kampot, a seaport now in Cambodia but then under Annamese (Vietnamese) rule, from where they set foot on Thai soil in Chanthaburi in the year 1833 during the reign of King Rama III.
The Hokkiens were the first Chinese to arrive in Ayutthaya, in the 18th century, and spread all over the country, especially in the South and Southeast, on the trading sea route from China. The Na Songkla and the Na Ranong families as well as the Krairikshs are of Hokkien descent. This is not to be (but often) confused with another Chinese dialect group known in English as Hakkas but as "Khae" in the Thai language, to which many well-known figures and families belong, such as Mr Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore and the famous Lamsam family of Thailand. So if Leonie Vejjajiva's "theory" about the "tall" Hakkas and the inherited "syndromes of heart, psychiatric and blood diseases" is to be pursued, I would suggest that she turn to such Hakka descendants for verification.
Intermarriage seems to be blamed by Leonie Vejjajiva for the afflictions suffered by her family, presumably her children. At Chantaburi, where there has always been a closely-knit community of people sharing the Hokkien bloodline, marriage between members of community families have over the years been quite common, thus making the numerous descendants "relatives". Such intermarriages are not uncommon in other communities and indeed Thai society generally, without any implication or insinuation as to heath or inherited disease, a fact appreciated even by many foreigners, but incomprehensible perhaps to some who refuse to understand even after spending as many as 50 years in our midst. A more pertinent point to ponder in this case is whether rather than putting the blame on "intermarriage," one should not turn attention to miscegenation, defined as "the inter-breeding of people of different races", especially in light of the unknown or unaccounted for foreign gene.
Leonie Vejjajiva mentioned in her letter about her plan to write a book about my own family. I certainly feel a little flattered, and would wish her well, provided that the book, as written by an educated, well-informed and unprejudiced author, shall refrain from any precipitous judgement or indeed any venom.
Hun Sen Chinese ancestry.
"Some officials now mention that Hun Sen's grandfather was Chinese".
Time - Briton Hadden, Henry Robinson Luce - Google Books
In Wiki, Hun Sen was born in Kampong Cham, and was the third child of six children to a peasant family. His father, Hun Neang, was a resident monk in a local Wat in Kampong Cham province before defrocking himself to join the French resistance and married Hun Sen's mother, Dee Yon in the 1940s. Hun Neang's paternal grandparents were wealthy landowners of Teochew Chinese heritage.
Hun Sen's wife has roots from Hainan of China.
เกรียงไกร ปริญญาพล
The Norodom and Sisowath are quite mestizo according some Chinese articles I have read. Can't cite URL with you at this moment.
I find out that even most South Chinese from Mainland are northernized, if you go to the urban area in the South China, it is definitely dominated by the northern phenotype.
That is only true to some extend in Shenzhen and Pearl River Delta. Places like Guangzhou, Guangdong province, Guangxi, HK, Fujian and Taiwan are very Southern Chinese.
Surprisingly Yunan Han Chinese are quite Northern Chinese phenotype. The minorities are overwhelmingly Southern Chinese phenotype.
I wonder if Vietnamese can really spot me out as a Chinese. I have been Vietnam and blend in like local if I do not speak. But Northern Chinese are really distinguishable.
I am from Fujian, just like Abhisit.
Just want to ask, if Thaksin, Yingluck, Abhisit walk in Saigon, can you tell the differences?
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