History of Vietnam or What do you want to know about Vietnam?

[sincity]

Without China help Ho Chi Minh fought the French in Dien Bien Phu, Viet Nam still under French colony.

 

[EastSea]

We will be there again, as you always need an overlord.

don't run back as quickly as you can.

Without China help Ho Chi Minh fought the French in Dien Bien Phu, Viet Nam still under French colony.

Without victory of Soviet Army on Guan Dong army of Japan and two nukes of USA in Japan in WWII. You are slaves of Japanese until now and you can speak Japanese as fluently same like you speak mandarin now.

did you edit that part, why its bold on wikipedia



that's 3 I counted for you, how many you need?


the dude forgot to tell you it was the Viet emperor ran way to China and beg Qing to help him was the cause for that battle

good luck for Chinese demolish this race

You are chino-Khmer Rouge, you kiss @ your master here. Million innocent Khmer people were killed by you.

 

[Viet]

Vietnamese want to invade China and declared to retrieve their lost land?

NO, don´t be silly, why should we do? We are not mad.

By the way, we Vietnamese only invaded China one time and that is long ago, I forgot how many times you Chinese invaded Vietnam.

 

[cnleio]

HeHe... Comrades & Brothers ?!

1950.7.7 China Mao sent General Cheng (陈赓 大将) to help Vietnam Ho, at that time Ho and his VCP hided in Jungles of North Vietnam. 1950 Ho Chi Minh meet General Cheng at his 'office'.

Im COOL ! Pls help us, General Cheng.

Later, Ho Chi Minh even wrote a letter to General Cheng thanks his helps for Vietam revolution. (BTW Ho Chi Minh understand Chinese very well, but today VNese can't.)

"Thank You, General Cheng" --- Ho Chi Minh

 

[Snomannen]

don't run back as quickly as you can.

Without victory of Soviet Army on Guan Dong army of Japan and two nukes of USA in Japan in WWII. You are slaves of Japanese until now and you can speak Japanese as fluently same like you speak mandarin now.

Said the guy from the country which was fully conquered by Japan in WWII. Japan didn't even sweat to put you down~ If it wasn't the Soviet, US and China defeated Japan, YOU are now the stupid guy who can speak fluently Japanese.

 

[Viet]

Said the guy from the country which was fully conquered by Japan in WWII. Japan didn't even sweat to put you down~ If it wasn't the Soviet, US and China defeated Japan, YOU are now the stupid guy who can speak fluently Japanese.

Actually when Japan invaded Vietnam in September 1940, the French who ruled Indochina surrendered to the invasion Imperial Japanese forces without any serious resistance.

One of interesting aspects of this period is, when Japan noticed the end is near, the Japanese supported the re-unitification of Vietnam. One should know, in order to weaken the Vietnamese, the French splitted Vietnam into three pieces: Cocinchina, Annam and Tonkin.

So Japan supported the establishing Empire of Vietnam. The Japanese hoped Vietnam would join a Japan led alliance against the Americans and the British. Though a puppet state, the Vietnamese government conducted some political and other reforms, including adopting latinized vietnamese scripts replacing chinese. So you can say, the Japanese are partly to blame, why Vietnam abandoned chinese characters.

Empire of Vietnam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Snomannen]

Actually when Japan invaded Vietnam in September 1940, the French who ruled Indochina surrendered to the invasion Imperial Japanese forces without any serious resistance.

One of interesting aspects of this period is, when Japan noticed the end is near, the Japanese supported the re-unitification of Vietnam. One should know, in order to weaken the Vietnamese, the French splitted Vietnam into three pieces: Cocinchina, Annam and Tonkin.

So Japan supported the establishing Empire of Vietnam. The Japanese hoped Vietnam would join a Japan led alliance against the Americans and the British. Though a puppet state, the Vietnamese government conducted some political and other reforms, including adopting latinized vietnamese scripts replacing chinese. So you can say, the Japanese are partly to blame, why Vietnam abandoned chinese characters.

Empire of Vietnam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Speaking of that part of history, there are two Vietnamese I'm interested to, they are Chairman Hu and Bao Dai.

In 1945 when the Japanese colonel in charge of the Hue garrison told Bảo Đại that he had (in line with the orders of the Allied commander) taken measures ensuring the security of the Imperial Palace and those within it against a possible Việt Minh coup, Bảo Đại dismissed the protection declaring "I do not wish a foreign army to spill the blood of my people."

Bao Dai is such a tragic figure, he had the heart, but lacked the strength.

 

[Viet]

Speaking of that part of history, there are two Vietnamese I'm interested to, they are Chairman Hu and Bao Dai.

Bao Dai is such a tragic figure, he had the heart, but lacked the strength.

Indeed he is. He served as the last emperor of the Nguyễn dynasty. He had no power at all as his country Vietnam was under the French rule. So what he left from this reign?

One is his summer palast in Da Lat, today as tourist attraction. His period belongs to one of the darkest moments in Vietnam history.

Emperor Bao Dai's Summer Palace- Dalat City- Lam Dong Province

 

[EastSea]

HeHe... Comrades & Brothers ?!

1950.7.7 China Mao sent General Cheng (陈赓 大将) to help Vietnam Ho, at that time Ho and his VCP hided in Jungles of North Vietnam. 1950 Ho Chi Minh meet General Cheng at his 'office'. COOL ! Pls help us, General Cheng.

Later, Ho Chi Minh even wrote a letter to General Cheng thanks his helps for Vietam revolution. (BTW Ho Chi Minh understand Chinese very well, but today VNese can't.)

"Thank You, General Cheng" --- Ho Chi Minh

It was cold war.
Any case, its thankful for such Chinese who came to Vietnam in Vietnam war.

Without help of Soviet Union. You are ruled by Japanese until now.

China joined to Socialist Pack heade by Soviet Union 1949. Under request of Soviet Union, China helped Vietnam with such weapons Soviet Union is handed to you.

and here is true face of China. 1972, Nixon dropped in Peking when Vietnam war is going on brutally.

and here is your avatar, who begged USA to attack Vietnam 1979.

 

[cnleio]

It was cold war.
Any case, its thankful for such Chinese who came to Vietnam in Vietnam war.

Without help of Soviet Union. You are ruled by Japanese until now.

1945 WWII Japan supreme commander surrend to China government(ROC,NanKing), submit Japan's capitulation.

and here is true face of China. 1972, Nixon dropped in Peking when Vietnam war is going on brutally.

and here is your avatar, who begged USA to attack Vietnam 1979.

Mao and Deng, they r Gread Leaders ! Do the best for the China.

The Chinese r very pragmatic, political system is just a tool, the goal is to make China STRONG. If this way failed, Chinese never mind changing another way to achieve success.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

There is a saying in China, 不作死就不会死. If their ambitions overshadows their capabilities, then they are asking for death.

Same for those Korean ultranationalists who claim the Northeast part of China.

I don't know why there are so many idiots in this world.

 

[EastSea]

1945 WWII Japan supreme commander surrend to China government(ROC,NanKing), submit Japan's capitulation.

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This great supperpowers won on WW II, not China.

Japanese foreign affairs ministerMamoru Shigemitsu signs the Japanese Instrument of Surrender on board USS Missouri as General Richard K. Sutherland watches, September 2, 1945

Communists China's considered that "KMT is puppet of USA Imperialism". KMT did what his master permitted him to do some where in China for surrender with low ranking Japanese officials only.

Mao and Deng, they r Gread Leaders ! Do the best for the China.

The Chinese r very pragmatic, political system is just a tool, the goal is to make China STRONG. If this way failed, Chinese never mind changing another way to achieve success.

China attacked on Soviet Union 1969 to welcome Nixon 1972 and attack Vietnam 1979 to kiss a@ USA. When USA committed to protect Japan, to counter threat of China to small his neighbors, the way to kiss a@ USA is failed, China turned back to Russia.

Problem here is mentality of Chinese leaders is unstable.

 

[cnleio]

This great supperpowers won on WW II, not China.

What did u learn history in Vietnam School ?

1943.11.25 Cairo Conference, U.S / China / Britain. 《Cairo Declaration》

The Cairo Communiqué was broadcast through radio on December 1, 1943. The Cairo Declaration is cited in Clause Eight (8) of the Potsdam Declaration, which is referred to by the Japanese Instrument of Surrender.

The main points of the document were:

• The Allies are not fighting Japan for their own territorial expansion.
• The Allies are resolved to bring unrelenting military pressure against Japan until it agrees to unconditional surrender.
• Japan shall be stripped of all islands she has seized or occupied in the Pacific since the beginning of World War I in 1914.
• All the territories Japan has taken from China such as Manchuria (Dongbei), Formosa (Taiwan), and the Pescadores (Penghu), shall be restored to the Republic of China.
• The Allies are determined that Korea shall become free and independent.
• Japan will also be expelled from all other territories which she has taken by violence and greed.

China attacked on Soviet Union 1969 to welcome Nixon 1972 and attack Vietnam 1979 to kiss a@ USA. When USA committed to protect Japan, to counter threat of China to small his neighbors, the way to kiss a@ USA is failed, China turned back to Russia.

It seems the Russian cooperated further with China together, Russia and China setup a military & security orgination: SCO ( Shanghai Cooperation Organization )

 

[Viet]

What did u learn history in Vietnam School ?

1943.11.25 Cairo Conference, U.S / China / Britain. 《Cairo Declaration》

Who is the women on the right?
Other question: correct me if I am wrong, the Cairo Declaration explicitly does not include the Senkakus?

Same for those Korean ultranationalists who claim the Northeast part of China.
I don't know why there are so many idiots in this world.

That attitude most applies to you China. Your claim of the SCS bases on:
"we are the first who sailed and catched fish". Who is idiot?

 

[cnleio]

Who is the women on the right?
Other question: correct me if I am wrong, the Cairo Declaration explicitly does not include the Senkakus?

Soong May-ling, Chiang kai-shek's wife.

《Cairo Declaration》

• Japan shall be stripped of all islands she has seized or occupied in the Pacific since the beginning of World War I in 1914.
• All the territories Japan has taken from China such as Manchuria (Dongbei), Formosa (Taiwan), and the Pescadores (Penghu), shall be restored to the Republic of China.

Senkaku/DiaoYu Islands

The People's Republic and Taiwan claim that the islands have been a part of Chinese territory since at least 1534. They acknowledge that Japan took control of the islands in 1894–1895 during the first Sino-Japanese War, through the signature of the Treaty of Shimonoseki.

They assert that the Potsdam Declaration (which Japan accepted as part of the San Francisco Peace Treaty) required that Japan relinquish control of all islands except for "the islands of Honshū, Hokkaidō, Kyūshū, Shikoku and such minor islands as we determine", and they state that this means control of the islands should pass to China.

Japan does not accept that there is a dispute, asserting that the islands are an integral part of Japan.Japan has rejected claims that the islands were under China's control prior to 1895, and that these islands were contemplated by the Potsdam Declaration or affected by the San Francisco Peace Treaty.