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Same nonsense... "great sahabas" took his bayat... he didnt know abt it etc... these people will shamlessly call Hazrat Muhammad SAWs family as wrong ... while .... like these as being on the right path... 


Hahaha... they give refrence from Sahi bukhari,sahi muslim etc... :lol:

Didn't know about what? that his forces are fighting with whom? :undecided:
 
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No they weren't but on the other side what Hazrat Hussein (PBUH) did wasn't very pragmatic either - One does not walk into the arms of death with women & children !

Do you know any link where i can read in detail?
 
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Same nonsense... "great sahabas" took his bayat... he didnt know abt it etc... these people will shamlessly call Hazrat Muhammad SAWs family as wrong ... while .... like these as being on the right path... 


Hahaha... they quote Sahi bukhari,sahi muslim etc... :lol:

I told from your books dear ......
 
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Same nonsense... "great sahabas" took his bayat... he didnt know abt it etc... these people will shamlessly call Hazrat Muhammad SAWs family as wrong ... while .... like these as being on the right path... 


Hahaha... they quote Sahi bukhari,sahi muslim etc... :lol:

Pardon me,whats wrong with sahi bukhari and sahi Muslim..
 
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Do you know any link where i can read in detail?

Read about what in detail ? :unsure:

I think its said by all & sundry & disputed by no-one that Hussein (PBUH) took the women & children to Kufa along with him to oppose the wrongful accession to the Caliphate of Yazid & that along the way when they - his Caravan - was told that Muslim ibn Aqeel was killed & that the people of Kufa are no longer with them he continued on with the journey before they were intercepted by Yazid's Army at Karbala & no one was left alive !

No one can say that what Hussein (PBUH) did was wrong for it was right to oppose a Caliph like Yazid & the actions of Muawiya that had turned the Caliphate from a Democracy into a Monarchy but Hussein (PBUH) should've left the women & children in Mecca or Medina instead of taking them with him & then later he should've dispersed them to elsewhere or sent them back (if possible) when he found out that the Kuffans have betrayed him & Yazid's Army is coming for them ! 
Islam zinda hota hai Karbala k baad... dnt sprew ur nonsense if u dnt know anything abt it..

What nonsense ? Did Hussein (PBUH) not take women & children to Kufa with him & even continued on with the journey when they were told that the Kuffans are no longer with them ?

He was right to oppose Yazid but I don't think he should've taken defenseless women & children with him when anyone could see & know, including himself, that Yazid isn't going to let this go !
 
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Half my family is shia so basically they believe that Hazrat Ali RA was the rightful legitimate successor of Prophet Muhammad PBUH and that right was snatched from him by forming some sort of a unified alliance against him.
'Unified alliance' A failed attempt at making plain and simple democracy, sound like a bad thing
 
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Oi @BLACKEAGLE @al-Hassani @Yzd Khalifa @Arabian Legend - Does anyone know any good Biography written on Omer (PBUH) ?

Birography of Hazrat Umar written by Dr Ali Mohammad AsSalabi is a must read.. Infact he has written biographies on all the four Caliphs.. I have read 3 of them...i-e Of Hazrat Abu Bakr(R.A), Hazrat Umar(R.A), Hazrat Usman(R.A).. All 3 of them are absolutely amazing and well written..in very simple language and with only authentic references.... I am yet to read the one on Hazrat Ali(R.A).. I am just waiting for some time to go to market and buy tht one as well...
 
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Don't insult Islam. Apparently karbala is more important to you then actual Islam.

Na yaaar Bhahiyoon keiii beeech mein laraiii nahin ! :)

We can all disagree with mutual respect & love ! :tup:
 
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Read about what in detail ? :unsure:

I think its said by all & sundry & disputed by no-one that Hussein (PBUH) took the women & children to Kufa along with him to oppose the wrongful accession to the Caliphate of Yazid & that along the way when they - his Caravan - was told that Muslim ibn Aqeel was killed & that the people of Kufa are no longer with them he continued on with the journey before they were intercepted by Yazid's Army at Karbala & no one was left alive !

No one can say that what Hussein (PBUH) did was wrong for it was right to oppose a Caliph like Yazid & the actions of Muawiya that had turned the Caliphate from a Democracy into a Monarchy but Hussein (PBUH) should've left the women & children in Mecca or Medina instead of taking them with him & then later he should've dispersed them to elsewhere or sent them back (if possible) when he found out that the Kuffans have betrayed him & Yazid's Army is coming for them !

I am ignorant on this topic as i never tried to read about it. All i know is Yazid's army martyred grand children of Prophet, women & kids just because they didn't accepted his caliphate :undecided:
 
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