I have learned...When someone does not understand your POV or your stand, you need to make him/ her see it from how they view things...In this case, I found Turks to be very proud of their culture and tradition...
oh plz agree this not the time for this discussion but it also does not mean we should not clarify the misunderstanding of the others about us related to this topic .... patience my dear patience
And you still didnt learn anything! I doubt the Prophet would have been proud of your tongue and the language you used! Do you have no shame? Why cry about the Prophet and get defensive when you insult the Prophet everytime you being a Muslim behave less than a Muslim? ESP when it comes to language..The tongue, the part of your body that will drag the whole of your body to hell?!
dear ..... mod team is trying to manage the situation,plz have patience and post in non provocative manner so the matter at hand does not get buried under 100 other unrelated matters raised at this thread ..... plz try to comprehend the situation and cooperate
I can be anyone(not bipolar) n write anythng.The problem is we DID! Not a question of we didnt!
Why are you so bipolar? Why must it be all or nothing?
Yea but as a MOD I have to end up cleaning up all the shit
That is what a moderation team is for!
Yes, I had made a request to allow such discussions only when senior members are involved...WE usually close the thread when we leave so that trolls wont invade!
Sure
He is the ONLY staff to have managed to do it 3x within a week! Maybe more but I only saw 3 threads that were reported...
Usually the others do it every now and then...when the human mood swings... not continuous like on a mission to get banned
good for you!
So do you want me to hunt and give you some for insulting religion as you just recently declared you have done it
So hurting someone's sentiments is fun? I understand you claim to be a doc..You do know that such a person can be diagnosed as Psycho patient or maybe even a sociopath?
Now I doubt you are a doc....
Actually when Pakistan came into being, ALL Muslims from everywhere who wanted to live did live in Pakistan.@T-123456
Let me expand on the vey valid point you raised. I have spent significant amount reading and trying to rationalize the contradictions which are writ large in this "existence or being for Islam". The truth is back in British Raj Islam was used for a politcal agenda. There was no deep philosophy behind it but just plain politics of convenience. It was a lie dressed as a rally call "Pakistan reason is Islam" because such a message worked nicely amongst the semi-literate masses who don't ask too many questions.
It was a lie because if indeed there had been even a shred of truth to it then as a country made for Islam for Muslims would be for all Muslims. As you know Islam does not have class of Muslims. It is a global, trans-national religion. If the makers of Pakistan had been true to the "Pakistan for Islam" then you as a Turkish Muslim, a Nigerian Muslim, a Malay Muslim, a Black Muslim from New York could move to Pakistan and just declare you are a 'Muslim' and that would be it.
For example you can see Israel. It is homeland of Jews. It accepts any Jew from any place on earth of any ethnic group. Pakistan does not follw that format. Thus the reality is Islam was used as a ploy in 1947 to get a state. Once it was got it constitutionally became a federation of what in fact were broadly four/five ethnic based provinces.
In fact even the name Pakistan is a acronym of those 4/5 provinces. P for Punjab, A for Afghania, K for Kashmir, S for Sindh, with suffix Istan from Balochistan. The fig leaf of 'Islam' has been kept simmering in the pot by the ruling elites as it was expediant to placate the masses and divert them from economic reforms or political accountability. Furthermore during the Cold War it innoculated the state against the threat from the socialists and communists.
Who are you kidding?N i genuinely dont provoke to hurt,,,more like booster injections
bhai can we talk this stuff some other time somewhere else ....??@T-123456
Let me expand on the vey valid point you raised. I have spent significant amount reading and trying to rationalize the contradictions which are writ large in this "existence or being for Islam". The truth is back in British Raj Islam was used for a politcal agenda. There was no deep philosophy behind it but just plain politics of convenience. It was a lie dressed as a rally call "Pakistan reason is Islam" because such a message worked nicely amongst the semi-literate masses who don't ask too many questions.
It was a lie because if indeed there had been even a shred of truth to it then as a country made for Islam for Muslims would be for all Muslims. As you know Islam does not have class of Muslims. It is a global, trans-national religion. If the makers of Pakistan had been true to the "Pakistan for Islam" then you as a Turkish Muslim, a Nigerian Muslim, a Malay Muslim, a Black Muslim from New York could move to Pakistan and just declare you are a 'Muslim' and that would be it.
For example you can see Israel. It is homeland of Jews. It accepts any Jew from any place on earth of any ethnic group. Pakistan does not follw that format. Thus the reality is Islam was used as a ploy in 1947 to get a state. Once it was got it constitutionally became a federation of what in fact were broadly four/five ethnic based provinces.
In fact even the name Pakistan is a acronym of those 4/5 provinces. P for Punjab, A for Afghania, K for Kashmir, S for Sindh, with suffix Istan from Balochistan. The fig leaf of 'Islam' has been kept simmering in the pot by the ruling elites as it was expediant to placate the masses and divert them from economic reforms or political accountability. Furthermore during the Cold War it innoculated the state against the threat from the socialists and communists.
At least you understood my posts.@T-123456
Let me expand on the vey valid point you raised. I have spent significant amount reading and trying to rationalize the contradictions which are writ large in this "existence or being for Islam". The truth is back in British Raj Islam was used for a politcal agenda. There was no deep philosophy behind it but just plain politics of convenience. It was a lie dressed as a rally call "Pakistan reason is Islam" because such a message worked nicely amongst the semi-literate masses who don't ask too many questions.
It was a lie because if indeed there had been even a shred of truth to it then as a country made for Islam for Muslims would be for all Muslims. As you know Islam does not have class of Muslims. It is a global, trans-national religion. If the makers of Pakistan had been true to the "Pakistan for Islam" then you as a Turkish Muslim, a Nigerian Muslim, a Malay Muslim, a Black Muslim from New York could move to Pakistan and just declare you are a 'Muslim' and that would be it.
For example you can see Israel. It is homeland of Jews. It accepts any Jew from any place on earth of any ethnic group. Pakistan does not follw that format. Thus the reality is Islam was used as a ploy in 1947 to get a state. Once it was got it constitutionally became a federation of what in fact were broadly four/five ethnic based provinces.
In fact even the name Pakistan is a acronym of those 4/5 provinces. P for Punjab, A for Afghania, K for Kashmir, S for Sindh, with suffix Istan from Balochistan. The fig leaf of 'Islam' has been kept simmering in the pot by the ruling elites as it was expediant to placate the masses and divert them from economic reforms or political accountability. Furthermore during the Cold War it innoculated the state against the threat from the socialists and communists.
Persian gulf 1906?
He is an idiot.
Is that all u can do little btch, run to daddy?
Like the saying,Life begins at the end of ur comfort zone.
