GCC Seeks To Form Military Bloc With Jordan, Morocco

[Yzd Khalifa]

@Yzd Khalifa

What is your honest take on us admitting Jordan and Morocco let alone poverty stricken Yemen? Jordan has the biggest chance IMO.

Not that the economies of Jordan or Morocco are great...

Well,

Yemen is complicated, but the Jordanians, Moroccans, and Egyptians have potential to be admitted.

 

[Black Eagle 90]

MASHA ALLAH nice move. KSA-UAE and Jordan should try to convince Yemen, Oman, Qatar, Bahrain and Kuwait to form a single Arab State.

 

[Brutas]

In terms of conventional weapons, can this combined alliance be compared to the might of Israel ?

 

[mahatir]

We have a genuine stake in the regional security paradigm which will not be ignored.

Pakistan will be there under-cover , you cant publicly announce as shias in pakistan would create problems over such thing and Iran will certainly harm pakistan through seducing india

There is nothing wrong in joining the union if its in our interests as well as it proves constructive for regional stability and peace. Please note that we are not a superpower that we can go alone. Judging from NATO, if such an alliance emerges in the gulf and they want us to join, we must seriously consider on the merit of our national interests.

You cant Join it dircetly , Iran will harm pakistan badly if it did such a thing .

The GCC's goal is to get all the existing monarchies to create a solid political and military block to defend the perpetuation of the feudal system in place. Algeria, based on its revolutionary history will not join the GCC, that not to say, it will come to its defence if attacked, just like she did in Egypt. However, she will do everything in her power to torpedo the inclusion of Morocco. The inclusion of Morocco in the GCC will be regarded as an unfriendly gesture.


Algeria is allied to no one...She didn't do it during the cold war...And she is still member of the non-allied movement..

Morroco , Jordan and Egypt will join and this has nothing to do with Algeria , whether you like it or not , there is nothing you can do about it .

In terms of conventional weapons, can this combined alliance be compared to the might of Israel ?

What has Israel to do with this , the alliance is made to fill security vacuum that was caused by Arab spring.

 

[mahatir]

Maybe this is the case for you with Algeria.

Pakistan is a potential OBSERVER candidate in the GCC.

After Saudi forced the Qataris to submit and deported MB and Alqauda monkies from Arabian peninsula to Syria now we can start a new clean page.

After the Egyptian presidential elections I am sure this alliance will be publicly announced .

 

[mahatir]

Well,

Yemen is complicated, but the Jordanians, Moroccans, and Egyptians have potential to be admitted.

You need a security agreement with Yemen which allows Saudi/GCC troops you to hunt alqauda and other insurgents seeking save haven there or simply directly working with loyal yemeni tribes on Saudi border , I know they already have made some agreements with specific tribes.

We Just need some sort of agreement that allows us to intervene if something big happens there at least until the fence is complete like the one with Iraqi pimps .

 

[doritos]

You need a security agreement with Yemen which allows Saudi/GCC troops you to hunt alqauda and other insurgents seeking save haven there or simply directly working with loyal yemeni tribes on Saudi border , I know they already have made some agreements with specific tribes.

We Just need some sort of agreement that allows us to intervene if something big happens there at least until the fence is complete like the one with Iraqi pimps .

No, Yemen will join the GCC accept it. You cannot secure the mountainous borders, if you could Turkey would have done so a long time ago dealing with PKK in the 80's and 90's already.

 

[Mahmoud_EGY]

You need a security agreement with Yemen which allows Saudi/GCC troops you to hunt alqauda and other insurgents seeking save haven there or simply directly working with loyal yemeni tribes on Saudi border , I know they already have made some agreements with specific tribes.

We Just need some sort of agreement that allows us to intervene if something big happens there at least until the fence is complete like the one with Iraqi pimps .

maybe arms will not be the answer in yeman the promise of better life and stabilty from GCC can turn the public into fighting to join no insurgance can win without public support after all what has the rebels in yeman bring but death and destruction

 

[Hassan_Ishtiaq]

That is seriously good move but they should add Pakistan in this too and also GCC should fund specially Jordan and Morocco need lot more advanced Fighter Jets than they currently have @Aeronaut @Oscar @fatman17 @Luftwaffe @BLACKEAGLE

Why Pakistan should be in this??

We have a genuine stake in the regional security paradigm which will not be ignored.

No we don't. Please inform us what "genuine stake" we have in Arab lands??

There is nothing wrong in joining the union if its in our interests as well as it proves constructive for regional stability and peace. Please note that we are not a superpower that we can go alone. Judging from NATO, if such an alliance emerges in the gulf and they want us to join, we must seriously consider on the merit of our national interests.

What benefit would this GCC union serve us?? Arabs have cordial ties with india so how would they assist us against their big trading partner bharat??

Please note that we are not a superpower that we can go alone

Why do we always need someone to hold our hand?? Least of all these Arabs who themselves need America's hand to hold??

Modi is just an odd idiot, he won't pick a fight with Pakistan. His military generals know for a fact how much a war with Pakistan would cost. Pakistan reserves the right to seek out its interests and if the GCC whom with we share old ties with decide to go ahead with a military union involving Pakistan, we will give it a serious thought.

Its more likely that we will join SCO than GCC.

Plus, as other members stated, GCC is a Arab military bloc. Pakistan isn't a Arab country.

 

[mahatir]

maybe arms will not be the answer in yeman the promise of better life and stabilty from GCC can turn the public into fighting to join no insurgance can win without public support after all what has the rebels in yeman bring but death and destruction

maybe arms will not be the answer in yeman the promise of better life and stabilty from GCC can turn the public into fighting to join no insurgance can win without public support after all what has the rebels in yeman bring but death and destruction

Not all Yemen has problems , only certain Isolated parts in Northern and Central Yemen , we have already done what you said providing Aid and loans but problem corruption is rampant there .

No, Yemen will join the GCC accept it. You cannot secure the mountainous borders, if you could Turkey would have done so a long time ago dealing with PKK in the 80's and 90's already.

This is why I referred to seeking ties with Yemeni Tribes on border with Saudi Arabia , you know Yemen has been turned into 6 federal states now under saudi pressure , the next step will be building separate ties with border states and prepares in future it could involve giving citizenships to certain tribes living in those states.

Something similar to relation between KRJ and Turkey right now , but in Saudi case it would be stronger due to tribal links and same language .

Yemen could be given observer status but border states inside yemen will be given special one including al Houthis to .

Something else Saudi Arabia was always interested in having a land route to indian ocean under its influence , the current federalism in yemen fills this goal .

 

[doritos]

Not all Yemen has problems , only certain Isolated parts in Northern and Central Yemen , we have already done what you said providing Aid and loans but problem corruption is rampant there .

This is why I referred to seeking ties with Yemeni Tribes on border with Saudi Arabia , you know Yemen has been turned into 6 federal states now under saudi pressure , the next step will be building separate ties with border states and prepares in future it could involve giving citizenships to certain tribes living in those states.

Something similar to relation between KRJ and Turkey right now , but in Saudi case it would be stronger due to tribal links and same language .

Yemen could be given observer status but border states inside yemen will be given special one including al Houthis to .

Something else Saudi Arabia was always interested in having a land route to indian ocean under its influence , the current federalism in yemen fills this goal .

On paper it has been, how about the implementation,
or soon inshallah ?

Because I doubt it will go further than paper, no one is going to accept it, neither Al Qaeda, nor Houthis. I even doubt the Yemeni army is focused on implementing this. It won't happen.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

On paper it has been, how about the implementation,
or soon inshallah ?

Because I doubt it will go further than paper, no one is going to accept it, neither Al Qaeda, nor Houthis. I even doubt the Yemeni army is focused on implementing this. It won't happen.

Al-Qaida were under attack today by air. If the bombing camping continues this way, then their camps will go into the pin-trash.

Most of the Hauthis are concentrate in Amran as we speak, they can be dealt with easily by the Yemeni Air Force.

As for the tribes, none of them is interested in making peace with these two, they have their own representatives with the Central Gov't.

Most of Mahatir's take is realistically true.

 

[mahatir]

On paper it has been, how about the implementation,
or soon inshallah ?

Because I doubt it will go further than paper, no one is going to accept it, neither Al Qaeda, nor Houthis. I even doubt the Yemeni army is focused on implementing this. It won't happen.

The people want that by the way , Yemen army is incapable of keeping Yemen together so the easiest way would be decentralization with tribes taking control of security in their respective provinces .

Yemen Army will concentrate on keeping order in capital and fighting terrorism in other provinces if needed .

Alqauda is pretty much over now , most of them immigrated to Syria while alhouthis are concentrated in mountains right next to saudi border, simply if a seige is imposed they would die from hunger .

The goverment has already agreed on the 6 federation plan with opposition , this is what most yemenese wanted anyway .

Yemen agrees on 6-region federation | The National

 

[mahatir]

Al-Qaida were under attack today by air. If the bombing camping continues this way, then their camps will go into the pin-trash.

Most of the Hauthis are concentrate in Amran as we speak, they can be dealt with easily by the Yemeni Air Force.

As for the tribes, none of them is interested in making peace with these two, they have their own representatives with the Central Gov't.

Most of Mahatir's take is realistically true.

Saudi Convicts sent by Bandar control Western Iraq along with Syrian provinces on Iraqi border to facilitate smuggling arms from Saudi Arabia to northern syria .

If things require eliminating houthis same could be done again , sending some convicts over the border into northern yemen along with yemeni tribes under air-cover would end the Job.

Anyway Houthis are not a threat to Saudi Arabia , they are more local type group and there presence is what makes Yemeni goverment bow to saudi arabia for help.

 

[ghilzai]

Pakistan will be there under-cover , you cant publicly announce as shias in pakistan would create problems over such thing and Iran will certainly harm pakistan through seducing india



You cant Join it dircetly , Iran will harm pakistan badly if it did such a thing .



Morroco , Jordan and Egypt will join and this has nothing to do with Algeria , whether you like it or not , there is nothing you can do about it .



What has Israel to do with this , the alliance is made to fill security vacuum that was caused by Arab spring.

Shias in Pakistan will cause trouble?, boy you know bull about pakistan, I am a Sunni hanafi and I despise Arabs, there is nothing worse then an Arab, even a Hindu is better then an Arab.

Pakistan won't do Shyte, because it knows it's public will turn on it, they already have that's why you see terrorism.

Let the sand niggas make their own gang, but they still will be cowards, it's in their blood.