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One could also say that if a religion has created the largest number of failed states and has failed humanity, it is most probably a failed theology.

Depends on who is looking.

If hinduism in India has no relations with acute lack of toilets to Indian populace then religion of Islam also has no relations with failure of any state.

But acceptance of a particular theology or faith by the people does give us a good idea about the success of that faith.
 
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Notable presence in the other two continents(am guessing Europe and North America) is only cause of economic migrants and asylum seekers, not because people were impressed by Islam:lol:

Ironically Islam's reach is only limited to the countries which were once under the rules of Arabs, Turks and Persians. I wonder if there is a link between the two :angel:


For you Albania, Kosovo and Bosnia don't fall in Europe I guess. :rolleyes:

Don't know many Hindu or Sikhism majority states we have outside South Asia let alone Europe or North America.

Good that you ignored a big number of converts in Europe and North America. Serves the bias of a "secular Indian".

we are the direct descendents of hinduism , unlike others who have converted for whatever may be the reason....

and we dont force others to convert others in to our religion.... that isn't the dharmic way.... :P

Or you don't have much to sell to masses.
 
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For you Albania, Kosovo and Bosnia don't fall in Europe I guess. :rolleyes:

Have you even been to the Balkans? One only has to visit parts of Bosnia Herzegovina to recognise the true impact of Islam on that part of the world-fractured communities living in fear of each other 20 years after the fighting ended, entire cities divided along religious lines, the rise of Islamist radicalism (in fact I met a Bosnian chap in Mostar who told me he had fought in Afghanistan and his brother was denied a visa to India recently due to his background). The consequences of Islamic conquest and the Ottoman empire's cynical abuse of the faith to expand and consolidate its influence is evident across the region and one of the only things Croats and Serbs agree on is their contempt for the Muslim faith.

Mere 'presence' does not equate to respect or influence...
 
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If hinduism in India has no relations with acute lack of toilets to Indian populace then religion of Islam also has no relations with failure of any state.

But acceptance of a particular theology or faith by the people does give us a good idea about the success of that faith.

It is about whether an ideology is absolutist/supremacist or relaxed (as in any path can take you to the divine).

If the ideology is absolutist/supremacist , if its followers believe that it is either my way or the highway (to eternal hellfire), if they pump enormous efforts and resources in promoting the ideology among others (while condemning their own apostates to death), any ideology will find followers.

Still there are so many major religions in the world. No single religion is followed by the majority.

So after more than 1400 years, if the vast majority of the world still doesn't follow the "only perfect religion", is it a success or a failure? The vast majority of the world is willing to risk eternal hellfire rather than blindly believe the self made claims of one person!

After all these centuries, a single example in the world where this system is implemented and really working? Just one?

OK, in the last 100 years, 200 years?

Good that you ignored a big number of converts in Europe and North America. Serves the bias of a "secular Indian".

How many of them are there?

How many of the converts remain Muslims after 2-3 years?

The facts may just shock you. ;)
 
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It is about whether an ideology is absolutist/supremacist or relaxed (as in any path can take you to the divine).

Humm..

If the ideology is absolutist/supremacist , if its followers believe that it is either my way or the highway (to eternal hellfire), if they pump enormous efforts and resources in promoting the ideology among others (while condemning their own apostates to death), any ideology will find followers.

Well it is your bigotry calling it supremacist. I hope we would have worked in that way. India would have been an Islamic state. Islam unlike hinduism is for all and hence propagates itself. That's a difference between universal faith and regional ideologies.

Still there are so many major religions in the world. No single religion is followed by the majority.

Yes but still some are present all over the world. And some are limited to a few regions. May be because they weren't convincing enough for the masses.

So after more than 1400 years, if the vast majority of the world still doesn't follow the "only perfect religion", is it a success or a failure?

Success. That's why we have its explicit representation in two continents. While the Holy Prophet(SAW) himself never sat his foot outside the two holy cities of Mekkah and Madina. i am sure total number of Muslims in South America would be far greater than total number of budhists, hindus and sikhs in that continent.

The vast majority of the world is willing to risk eternal hellfire rather than blindly believe the self made claims of one person!

Considering it is a very young faith as compared to Christianity and Hinduism. It is growing gradually and a is a good source of propaganda for Islamophobes like you. Well that's you propagate. Don't you? Beware of Islam. It is coming. :lol:

OK, in the last 100 years, 200 years?

Started to made its impact in North America and Europe. The number of Mosques in France are enough to tell us the story.

How many Mandirs we have in France by the way. ;)

How many of the converts remain Muslims after 2-3 years?

Doesn't matter. Many remain muslims till they die. Those who left are replaced by others. There are many many examples where converts are a far more practicing muslim than a born muslim.

Mere 'presence' does not equate to respect or influence...

We are discussing presence right now. Many people don't respect jews either. That doesn't mean they don't exist.
 
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Breaking news..details to follow

The victim expected to survive despite being stabbed in the neck apparently...

Edit: Attacker is said to be of North African origin (no surprises there). The incident happened whilst victim was on patrol in the 'business district' (Le Defense?). Expect more copycat 'lone wolf' attacks by Islamist nutters and reprisals from their Neo nazi equivalents...

Manhunt under way for attacker in Paris stabbing - World News

French soldier stabbed on Paris street

Using racist tone towards North Africans, and using abusive language like Islamic Nutters and equating Islam with Nazism,

That is offensive, and I am gonna report you, hope you get banned for that.
 
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this is a serious turn of events. UK and France have large Muslim communities. i wounder how will it play out?

As of now, there are more than 1,642 Masaajid in United Kingdom.

All UK & Ireland mosques, by Town (1642) - UK Mosque Searcher

The above website does not include all of the Masaajid as new ones are being constructed all the time.

Some areas in United Kingdom are completely dominated by Muslims which numbered more than 2,706,066 on June 30, 2011 according to the official 2011 Census. This made up 4.8% of the England & Wales population which jumped from 2.8% from the official 2001 Census (1,588,890).

The Muslim population in England & Wales grew by 1,117,176 between June 2001 to June 2011, an average of 111,717.6 rise each year.

The surprising thing is that the UK Government as well as many other organisations in the country had expected a total increase to of Muslim population to be between 1.7 million to a maximum of 2.2 million.
 
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As of now, there are more than 1,642 Masaajid in United Kingdom.

All UK & Ireland mosques, by Town (1642) - UK Mosque Searcher

The above website does not include all of the Masaajid as new ones are being constructed all the time.

Some areas in United Kingdom are completely dominated by Muslims which numbered more than 2,706,066 on June 30, 2011 according to the official 2011 Census. This made up 4.8% of the England & Wales population which jumped from 2.8% from the official 2001 Census (1,588,890).

The Muslim population in England & Wales grew by 1,117,176 between June 2001 to June 2011, an average of 111,717.6 rise each year.

The surprising thing is that the UK Government as well as many other organisations in the country had expected a total increase to of Muslim population to be between 1.7 million to a maximum of 2.2 million.

and your point ....
 
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North African Sikhs :lol: Imagine :P

Because Sikhism and Hinduism unlike Islam and Christianity are a regional religion. :rolleyes:

Religion are supposed to be for the whole humanity. If it is for a particular region then it is most probably a failed theology.

Sorry to break your heart, nobody has seen a North African Sikh!! Such a thing does not exist!!

Why can't there be a Sikh from Africa? Why are they exclusive to India only?


 
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