France & Pakistan to revive JF-17 Avionics/EW/Missiles deal as Indian MMRCA stalls.

[Storm Force]

To be fair a jf17 fitted with French radars ew suites and mica missiles would be a far bigger export success than the plain vanilla thunder that paf have at present.

I can see the merits of this for potential customer like Egypt or even Argentina.

French weapons have great credibility far moremore than China.

But it would double the cost of the thunder from 20million to over 40 milliin.per plane ....

Then potential buyers start looking at other options at 40 million ie

F16 block c
Mig29smt
Gripen e

To sell thunder it has to be kept cheap

 

[That Guy]

France and USA would object to the sale/transfer of advanced avionics. Even India which is throwing billions of dollars at some of these deals has difficulty getting them

So your evidence is simply "Believe me, would I lie to you?". I've already shown how dumb your argument is, there is no point in continuing this argument.

 

[salarsikander]

But it would double the cost of the thunder from 20million to over 40 milliin.per plane

Hi,

Please state your parameter used in your post for 100% increase in cost of JF-17

 

[Rakan.SA]

hello everyone. its hard to go through 29 pages so can anyone tell me if this great news is confirmed
@Horus @Gabriel92

 

[Gabriel92]

hello everyone. its hard to go through 29 pages so can anyone tell me if this great news is confirmed
@Horus @Gabriel92

No news about this from our side.

 

[Armstrong]

No news about this from our side.

We don't want to buy french stuff either; we all know that you get a cut from anything that is sold !

Thats right do you think we wouldn't notice your recently renovated Chateau de Gabriel ?

And how you had a Mirage 5 personally fitted for you with leather seats and a mini refrigerator for wine ?

 

[Armstrong]

Please,can you guys stop your jokes with wine and French people ??!
It's not because i drink 7 bottles of wine/week that i'm addicted !!
Be realistic !
Sorry for the Off topic

Okay !

I meant no offense.

 

[Rakan.SA]

"Please,can you guys stop your jokes with wine and French people ??!
It's not because i drink 7 bottles of wine/week that i'm addicted !!
Be realistic !" @Gabriel92

 

[Storm Force]

There is no news on this officially in paf or in France.

The deal died as soon as somebody mentioned 2,billion dollars please

 

[Viper0011.]

There is no news on this officially in paf or in France.
The deal died as soon as somebody mentioned 2,billion dollars please

But there is plenty of news in France that they don't want to proceed with selling the Rafale. And you may be right, the JFT deal may have died as SOON as someone mentioned that the Pakistanis do airplace deals just like the Indians!!!

 

[Hulk]

This is a joke, right?

Either you are making this entire thing up or your "Highly placed industrial sources" are lying to you. The latest news regarding the Rafale deal have been positive, wait a few more weeks and your last hopes will be dashed and the deal will be signed.

Even IF the Rafale deal was stalled with India, the level of business India still does with France is many times greater than anything Pakistan can offer (A330 MRTTs, Ceasar MGS, LUHs, SSKs, radars etc etc). NO WAY would France put this at risk for some HMDS and EW sub-systems for the JF-17.


Sorry.

You nailed it, I am very positive that he is just doing two plus two.

 

[Storm Force]

Viper the French are begging India to sign the deal.

It the Indians playing hardball .

Get it right.

And yes this is in the news

Not like your Pakistani thread just made up wish list

 

[Wolfhound]

To be fair a jf17 fitted with French radars ew suites and mica missiles would be a far bigger export success than the plain vanilla thunder that paf have at present.

I can see the merits of this for potential customer like Egypt or even Argentina.

French weapons have great credibility far moremore than China.

But it would double the cost of the thunder from 20million to over 40 milliin.per plane ....

Then potential buyers start looking at other options at 40 million ie

F16 block c
Mig29smt
Gripen e

To sell thunder it has to be kept cheap

It wont double its cost, but it will increase it a little something like 5 to 7 million only, dont forget we wont change all of our avionic with french ones

 

[wiseone2]

To be fair a jf17 fitted with French radars ew suites and mica missiles would be a far bigger export success than the plain vanilla thunder that paf have at present.

I can see the merits of this for potential customer like Egypt or even Argentina.

French weapons have great credibility far moremore than China.

But it would double the cost of the thunder from 20million to over 40 milliin.per plane ....

Then potential buyers start looking at other options at 40 million ie

F16 block c
Mig29smt
Gripen e

To sell thunder it has to be kept cheap

I can see under certain conditions and terms France selling the avionics and weapons to Pakistan. I doubt they will agree to export to 3rd countries.

 

[Nine Inch Nails]

Thread starter does not even know how cruel he is being to the pakistani awam !


If it happens, it will potentially kill export orders for jf-satrah.

You have to get cleared by Russia and France.

Let's see..