Four forces colliding in the Middle East

[Mahmoud_EGY]

Turning into Iran means being a totalitarian and theocratic regime runned by religious dogmas and propaganda with no respect to human rights. Which means mistaking isolation with full independence. Which means making subjects out of citizens.
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a lot of your words describe erdogan policy

 

[TurAr]

Thanks, last time i checked we Iranians are doing fine. Dont you have some internal issues yourself ? Like being beaten up by Erdogoons fascist forces for demanding a more just Turkey ?

You don't know what "fine" is. You have been told by your regime that you are fine but you are far from being fine.

You should also start demanding more just Iran. Although we might end up inhaling some tear gas in the process, you will most probably end up hanging from a crane if you can survive from the shooting.

a lot of your words describe erdogan policy

Erdogan's fantasies I'd say.

 

[SipahSalar]

Hey mr.bigmouth atleast in our country terrorists are not able to go into a school and kill more than 100 children.

At least noone kills our nuclear scientists like sitting ducks.

 

[al-Hasani]

As Mosa said then Arabs cannot be grouped into 1 united group here. At all. If that was the case there would not be any such power struggle in the ME in the first place. For very obvious reasons.

It's basically a dogfight between KSA and its allies and Iran and its allies. That's about it.

Then anti-MB and pro-MB elements in the Arab world with the odd cancer in between (Daesh).

 

[Icewolf]

This is just sad. Iran being a technological and scientific power... Uhh how exactly again?

 

[IRAN 1802]

Turning into Iran means being a totalitarian and theocratic regime runned by religious dogmas and propaganda with no respect to human rights. Which means mistaking isolation with full independence. Which means making subjects out of citizens.

Before wasting money on "domestic hardwares" such as 6th gen stealth fighter Qaher, Iran should prevent deaths caused by lack of medication first.

lolo !

High school student arrested for 'insulting' Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Iran Produces 96% of Needed Medicine at Home

 

[TurAr]

lolo !

High school student arrested for 'insulting' Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Iran Produces 96% of Needed Medicine at Home

I'm well aware of the authoritarian tendencies of my government and I criticize it whenever I can. This is the difference between Turks and mullah apologists such as yourself. Turks are fond of their freedoms and rights while you don't even know what they mean.

As for the student, he has been relased today thanks to protests.

As for Iran's medicine shortage, google it.

 

[IRAN 1802]

I'm well aware of the authoritarian tendencies of my government and I criticize it whenever I can. This is the difference between Turks and mullah apologists such as yourself. Turks are fond of their freedoms and rights while you don't even know what they mean.

As for the student, he has been relased today thanks to protests.

As for Iran's medicine shortage, google it.

Nice try erdoganist!

Islam Times - Turkey world’s biggest jail for journalists: Reporters Without Borders

 

[Daneshmand]

At least noone kills our nuclear scientists like sitting ducks.

You serious bro? You just compared the lives of 150 children to 5 grown up men doing a dangerous job. Is it because of Pakistan's VIP culture?

This is just sad. Iran being a technological and scientific power... Uhh how exactly again?

Well, the only Muslim state capable of orbital launch. One of only two capable of uranium enrichment and nuclear research. Just to name two.

Its not like they never saw their own country, New is living in Iran if im not wrong.

Well, if I was you, I would worry about where Turkey is going. Let me remind you that Turkey is making the same mistakes that Pakistan made 30 years ago. You have messed up with a neighbor through a more potent form of proxy than Pakistan ever could imagine possible. Just like Pakistan you have now a large refugee population whose culture and religious inclinations are different than yours. At least Pakistan has a very disciplined and a very powerful army. Turkey's situation will be much worse than Pakistan's is today in afew years time.

 

[Winchester]

You serious bro? You just compared the lives of 150 children to 5 grown up men doing a dangerous job. Is it because of Pakistan's VIP culture?

Those 5 grown men were a target and your government knew they were a target but failed to protect them !
That fool from your country brought up that topic of the children while comparing armies
Pakistan's capabalities are not the topic at hand

 

[TurAr]

bla bla. At least Pakistan has a very disciplined and a very powerful army.

Are you trying to imply that Turkish army is undisciplined and weak?

 

[Daneshmand]

Those 5 grown men were a target and your government knew they were a target but failed to protect them !
That fool from your country brought up that topic of the children while comparing armies
Pakistan's capabalities are not the topic at hand

This is the point. Those five grown up men knew that they were in danger due to their job. They took the risk for their country. Just like a soldier does by consenting to put himself in danger so that innocent women and children live their lives in safety. Those 150 kids who had gone to school, on the other hand had not consented to be slaughtered. They were to be protected. That was the duty of the state. Let me remind that it was not my honorable and intelligent compatriot who brought up the topic but in your words, a "fool" from your country who ridiculed Iranian military. My honorable compatriot just reminded him of Pakistan's military performance.

Are you trying to imply that Turkish army is undisciplined and weak?

Compared to Pakistan, yes. The Pakistani military and intelligence complexes are much more powerful by comparison. If Pakistan has trouble to pull out itself from this mess, Turkey has no chance.

 

[Winchester]

This is the point. Those five grown up men knew that they were in danger due to their job. They took the risk for their country. Just like a soldier does by consenting to put himself in danger so that innocent women and children live their lives in safety. Those 150 kids who had gone to school, on the other hand had not consented to be slaughtered. They were to be protected. That was the duty of the state. Let me remind that it was not my honorable and intelligent compatriot who brought up the topic but in your words, a "fool" from your country who ridiculed Iranian military. My honorable compatriot just reminded him of Pakistan's military performance.

again they were scientists not soldiers
their job was to conduct research work for Iran's nuclear program and that is it
it was the state's responsiblity to protect them
I am sure there would have been a time when Pakistani nuclear scientists would have been the target of such attempts but haven't heard of a Pakistani nuclear scientist being blown up
You guys keep bringing up the school massacare....school is a soft target just look at the U.S how many times have lone gunmen went in and conducted massacres ???
Killing a nuclear scientist is supposed to be a hard target !
Finally just because if a Pakistani poster brings up a point doesn't mean that instead of answering his point you bring up a recent tragic event to score even and that is why i called him a fool

 

[Daneshmand]

again they were scientists not soldiers
their job was to conduct research work for Iran's nuclear program and that is it
it was the state's responsiblity to protect them
I am sure there would have been a time when Pakistani nuclear scientists would have been the target of such attempts but haven't heard of a Pakistani nuclear scientist being blown up
You guys keep bringing up the school massacare....school is a soft target just look at the U.S how many times have lone gunmen went in and conducted massacres ???
Killing a nuclear scientist is supposed to be a hard target !
Finally just because if a Pakistani poster brings up a point doesn't mean that instead of answering his point you bring up a recent tragic event to score even and that is why i called him a fool

Yes, that is probably because of the difference how life is judged in Iranian vs. Pakistan's society. In Iran a school child's life is more important than a soldier or an officer. In Pakistan the VIP'ism takes a different view. That is why you can not understand what I am saying.

By the way just a few years ago, zombies had attacked the nerve center of Pakistan's military (GHQ) and had killed generals and soldiers alike. As they had attacked, killed and destroyed high value military aircrafts and aviation engineers/pilots. So much so for your argument of "soft" and "hard" target. Keep yourself informed. And stop comparing 150 kids with 5 grown up men.

 

[TurAr]

Compared to Pakistan, yes. The Pakistani military and intelligence complexes are much more powerful by comparison. If Pakistan has trouble to pull out itself from this mess, Turkey has no chance.

One calls me "Erdoganist" and now this...

I believe a Pakistani member's response would be more appropriate here. So yeah...