Four forces colliding in the Middle East

[Abii]

Guys i consider you as rational thinking Iranians and would appreciate your input about this, is it all western propaganda? @Abii @New @Militant Atheist

Man, not only you're on the ball on this, they know it too! That's the part that gets on my nerves. I can handle brainwashed cretins, but half of the mullah brigade here say the exact same things behind closed doors. But in Iran we grow up with the "gheyrat" culture which teaches us not to show weakness in front of foreigners or even outsiders (outsiders meaning people outside the family or circle of friends).

They're just trying to save face. In fact, anybody can go to skyscrapercity and talk to Cyrus. He's a senior moderator on the whole site, but he's Iranian and you can find him in the Iranian section a lot. His father passed away due to a lack of medicine in Iran. He opened a thread when it was happening and he even gave the name of the medicine he needed. It was very specialized and you couldn't find it in Iran b/c of the sanctions. I'm telling you this b/c you used medicine as an example and you were 100% on the ball.

I was like those idiots too. If you go back and read my posts from back when I first joined, I wasn't much different. I matured a lot in the past 2-3 years (coincides with when I moved out of my parent's house to another province in Canada and started living on my own). Basically the bull shit you read from the mullah brigade here is the result of a lack of maturity and Iran's "gheyrat culture" which is strongly against showing weakness in front of outsiders. I only lived in Iran for 12 years so that part of the culture never seeped into me like it has for them and I managed to lose it a lot easier than these lot can. Most of them probably never will.

 

[IR1907]

If you want to stop, it's fine by me. I was just rebutting the statement that Pakistan cannot protect its children by saying Pakistan at least does not exploit it's own children.



I have seen an Irani member here who has a picture of Qaher-313 in his avatar, even Irani members tell him its fake but he doesn't believe them, makes me laugh every time. He is a rare sight though.


I loved how you added "American supplied F16's". Please enlighten me what planes does Iran have? And who provided them? You have 5 decades old F-4s, which are, BIG SURPRISE, American Supplied. And some F-14's that cannot be used because of lack of spare parts, again AMERICAN SUPPLIED.
As for no-go areas, not anymore. All areas are under Pakistani control since launch of Zarb-e-Azb. The terrorists have escaped into Afghanistan.

Ever heard of Jundullah? Baluch seperatists?


Again, when you fail to protect your country's biggest struggle, i.e nuclear weapons and you say it's a "different story', well it's not! When your top-notch scientists are being cherry picked inside your own country, I'm sorry to say but you don't have control over it.

Well ****, difference is that we are facing worlds best intelligence agencies and you are facing a bunch of sandal wearing ragtags who can randomly go into your naval bases, airports and schools and create havoc and destruction.

In our cases it is just individual targetting by worlds best trained and equipped men but since we took full measures it stopped while you incompetent pakis take measures to protect your sovereignty yet time and time again fail against bunch of sandal wearing terrorists.

Supplied decades ago yes, since then we are taking care of these planes and flying it, on our own. And yes, the Balouch seperatist use your banana republic as a launch pad for hit and run tactics on our border areas.

 

[asad71]

More realistic to say there is only one side in this conflict.The Americans are making everyone fight each other.

 

[Serpentine]

To Pakistanis who have became brainwashed by Wahabi and other $hit propaganda let me add this to my previous comments :

There are areas inside Pakistan where your supposed Army cant even go on... you are forced to rely on your American supplied F16's to bomb the hide outs of the terrorists inside Pakistan area. There is no such thing in Iran, all of our territory is under firm control of the central government and thats how a functional state should be.

Now that we lost 5 of our scientists due to the hit and run attacks of the worlds best intelligence agencies (CIA, MOSSAD, MI6) is a totally different story. We dont have armed gunmen roaming around our territory, we do not have daily explosions going on in the country, we do not have Iranians killing each other based on tribal or some other ridicilous rubbish.

To compare Pakistan and Iranian security is such a joke... one is a firm regional leader with hands reaching all over the Middle East while the other is struggling very hard to become a functional state with full control over their territory.

Anyway i hope i didnt offend any Pakistanis with it, its just a reminder to Pakistanis who have became brainwashed by $hit propaganda.

Stop acting so aggressive and reckless because of some troll post by a Pakistani member, otherwise, you aren't much different than him. Pakistani members can also generalize whole things if an Iranian member posts a stupid thing.

 

[SipahSalar]

Well ****, difference is that we are facing worlds best intelligence agencies and you are facing a bunch of sandal wearing ragtags who can randomly go into your naval bases, airports and schools and create havoc and destruction.

In our cases it is just individual targetting by worlds best trained and equipped men but since we took full measures it stopped while you incompetent pakis take measures to protect your sovereignty yet time and time again fail against bunch of sandal wearing terrorists.

Supplied decades ago yes, since then we are taking care of these planes and flying it, on our own. And yes, the Balouch seperatist use your banana republic as a launch pad for hit and run tactics on our border areas.

Using racial slurs doesn't make your argument any stronger. It's obvious I have touched a nerve. What makes you think our nuclear program didn't face the same obstacles? The only difference is we are not incompetent like Iran. We know how to do counter intelligence, how to work against these agencies which you call to be "world's best".

Mossad and CIA have been working against our nuclear program for FOUR DECADES. You guys couldn't survive for 7 years.

Jailed US spy gave Israel information on Pakistan nuclear program | intelNews.org

An american CIA analyst jailed for spying for Israel on our nuclear program.

ISI Boxes CIA into a Corner | The National Interest

They have been trying to establish a massive network of spies since ages.

The only difference is we know how to play the game, and Iran is just incompetent but won't admit it. Maybe you can photoshop nuclear weapons as well next time, or maybe a photoshopped nuclear test?

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/10/in-an-iranian-image-a-missile-too-many/?_r=0
The 6 Most Absurd Military Hoaxes By North Korea And Iran | Popular Science

Iran's superweapon: Photoshop.