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That's why the word 'clean' was at number 5 position in my sentence that you quoted.
What we are talking here is facts. JF-17's KLJ-7 will detect 10 m2 SU30 at about the same range as Su30's radar will detect a 5m2 target. So from detection point of view, that extra range on Su30 is nullified. Both have good BVRs, SD10 contains Russian technology any way, that went into the R7x series. So i am not sure why you think Su30 cannot get into a fight with JF-17? Because Su30 is big in size?
Because India bought it so it must be the best?
Because you are a troll?
Because your local sabzi wala told you so?
Nope, what you are talking is conjecture intertwined with biased opinions, not facts. Facts would be official data from both Sukhoi/Tikhomirov Scientific Research Institute of Instrument Design and the designers of KLJ-7, which we both know is not forthcoming anytime soon.
The next point is the pulse Doppler radar is far inferior to the PESA in every aspect of its operations, that extends from the peak power output to the processor to the superior transceiver.
The higher peak output provides coupled with the faster processor provides higher, significantly higher resistance to jamming and other ECMs, while each transceiver on the antenna array of N011M has its own receiver amplifier, which is the same as AESA, and with noise level of 3dB, which is also in the same class of AESA arrays.
And it is these advantages onboard the Su that will have a bigger effect on the outcome of a BVR engagement between the MKI and the JF, more so than the range some here try to dish out.
The JF-17 was never intended as a counter to the MKIs. It's and aircraft that fits in with the PAF strategy of holding out while at the same time while maintaining some semblance of airspace control for as long as possible, hopefully till a UN/US/China brokered ceasefire comes into effect.
A JF-17 flying CAP would and should be pleased enough to force a MKI strike group to bail on its objectives. Anything over and above that would be an exceptional result.
Nope, what you are talking is conjecture intertwined with biased opinions, not facts. Facts would be official data from both Sukhoi/Tikhomirov Scientific Research Institute of Instrument Design and the designers of KLJ-7, which we both know is not forthcoming anytime soon.
The next point is the pulse Doppler radar is far inferior to the PESA in every aspect of its operations, that extends from the peak power output to the processor to the superior transceiver.
The higher peak output provides coupled with the faster processor provides higher, significantly higher resistance to jamming and other ECMs, while each transceiver on the antenna array of N011M has its own receiver amplifier, which is the same as AESA, and with noise level of 3dB, which is also in the same class of AESA arrays.
And it is these advantages onboard the Su that will have a bigger effect on the outcome of a BVR engagement between the MKI and the JF, more so than the range some here try to dish out.
The JF-17 was never intended as a counter to the MKIs. It's and aircraft that fits in with the PAF strategy of holding out while at the same time while maintaining some semblance of airspace control for as long as possible, hopefully till a UN/US/China brokered ceasefire comes into effect.
A JF-17 flying CAP would and should be pleased enough to force a MKI strike group to bail on its objectives. Anything over and above that would be an exceptional result.
An anecdote: It would be similar to a Sherman or a Cromwell or a T-34-76 v/s a Tiger I in WW2. The allies did manage to kill over 1700 tigers, but that cost them some 10,000 tanks.