Fareed Zakaria: Let’s be honest, Islam has a problem right now

[nik22]

This crap and lie was expected from this retard problem is with the country his country attacked Muslim countries his country supports idiot leaders his country keeps supporting Israel mass murder off people in palestine than expect there will be no issues

What happened to your English?

 

[Norwegian]

What happened to your English?

Brain damage?

 

[Thorough Pro]

FZ is an idiot. Muslims may have many problems, Islam has none. Islam is the religion created by ALLAH, and it is without any doubt the best religion. Many Muslims on the other hand can be and are idiot a-holes, maligning the name of this beautiful religion.

 

[Norwegian]

FZ is an idiot. Muslims may have many problems, Islam has none. Islam is the religion created by ALLAH, and it is without any doubt the best religion. Many Muslims on the other hand can be and are idiot a-holes, maligning the name of this beautiful religion.

Hahaha. You are also an idiot if you act as many Muslims do, hiding in the sand like ostriches when facts start beating them. No religion becomes "perfect" just because a believer says so. For a non-Muslim atheist or someone belonging to another religion, Islam like all other religions is an imperfect religion out of so many out there:
Criticism of Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Its a long article and every MUSLIM should read it before condemning it as propaganda. Islam has been criticized by atheists and adherents of other faiths alike in all times since Islam was born. A "perfect" religion cannot be criticized for its inconsistencies and shortcomings.

 

[MilSpec]

zareed zakaria is a joke… he has no connection with our community besides his name.

Just to avoid confusion, which community are you referring to?

 

[acid rain]

However, I disagree with one really small thing - Islam doesn't need reform. MUSLIMS need reform. We Muslims need to start following Islam properly, especially all its principles that condemn the killing of innocents and preach peace. And we need to stop using Islam as a political tool and use it as a uniting ideology instead. Islam is a very powerful force that can unite half the world under one banner - only if we get our shit together and start using our own brains instead of blindly following whatever some misinformed Mullah tells us.

Many have heard this argument before - any criticism of Islam means that one needs tof move even closer to Islam. I don't see how that would help. Your argument that Islam doesn't need reform - it's muslims who do is not the reason why people like maher and others criticize islam. They criticize the verses and the preachings of religious intolerance, violence and Injustice towards women.

You can explain away how the verses are being interpreted wrongly - but you ignore the fact that it's those same verses that are bring followed by groups like isis and boko.

The muslim world uniting together is a scary thought - for the simple reason of intolerance and the violence that would be perpetrated.

 

[qamar1990]

Just to avoid confusion, which community are you referring to?

muslim

 

[MilSpec]

It's all politics, It's not Islam's fault.

The only reasons Muslims look more like terrorists right now is not because there is any problem with Islam, it's because Muslims don't have Cruise Missiles, Aircraft Carriers and Drones to help them achieve their political goals. When that research counts the amount of "terrorists", I'm sure it doesn't include the likes of America or the CIA or any of the private military contractors that do as much 'terrorism' as anyone else.

Syria, Iran, KSA, Egypt, Turkey, Indonesia, Malaysia, : Have plenty of cruise missiles, drones, Albiet no aircraft carriers.... As far as military contractors,
how many muslim countries back asymmetric warfare through proxies like Hamas, Hezbollah, FSA, ISIS, PLO, PFLP, in context of conflict, how are they any different from military contractors? maybe more ruthless and more effective....

It's more political than it is Islam. I'm sure if Islam hadn't existed, the terrorists would have used some other ideology to brainwash people and use them for their political goals. Islam is just the trend for now, before it was Communism, now its Islam's turn to be used and abused and twisted around for politics and money.

My query is why are mulsims letting these terror organisation use thier organisation... like why was jamait-
ulema-e-islam used as recruitment grounds for taliban and no muslim in the region cried foul? If muslims are failing left and right to protect the sanctity of thier religion, why blame the rest of the world?

Then, about the whole stupid argument people have been repeating over and over and over again - that Muslims don't protest enough against ISIS, so they secretly support it or something.
PROTEST IS NOT EVEN REQUIRED!! Why do we protest? To show our state and our leaders that we disagree with something or that we would like some action to be taken. The whole world is already united against ISIS and multiple Muslim nations have already started bombing them and fighting them, along with western nations. There is no need to convince any leaders or any governments to take action - they already are.
PEOPLE DO NOT FEEL THE NEED TO PROTEST.

No protest is not required, actions are... When bamiyaan budhha's were being blown up and the muslim world stood mute polishing their brand new jets, Sensible people like you came out denouncing the horror, but the leaders that represent you should have cut of their aid to Taliban at that instance...Just like in a positive move muslim nations send flotilla's to palestine, why didn't they send the same to those affected by ISIS, Taliban, etc...

With Israel, an example everyone keeps bringing up, people need to protest because it is a nation that claims to be civilized and modern. Israel is also backed by the leaders of many nations and is supported by the whole West. ISIS makes no such claims, neither is it supported by any country (not directly atleast). The whole world is already against ISIS. There is no need to protest. Sure, we need to show ISIS we Muslims disagree with them, but I'm sure they'll understand that when they get their arses blown apart by Muslim pilots fighting for Muslim countries.

So applying the same logic, have people stopped protesting againt Israel?

muslim

Oh OK... Yeah you are right, Fareed Zakaria, doesn't represent Muslim Community... He has never claimed so

Hahaha. You are also an idiot if you act as many Muslims do, hiding in the sand like ostriches when facts start beating them. No religion becomes "perfect" just because a believer says so. For a non-Muslim atheist or someone belonging to another religion, Islam like all other religions is an imperfect religion out of so many out there:
Criticism of Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Its a long article and every MUSLIM should read it before condemning it as propaganda. Islam has been criticized by atheists and adherents of other faiths alike in all times since Islam was born. A "perfect" religion cannot be criticized for its inconsistencies and shortcomings.

Offense language against Ostriches wont be tolerated.....

 

[Thorough Pro]

I hope you are not a follower if Islam.

Hahaha. You are also an idiot if you act as many Muslims do, hiding in the sand like ostriches when facts start beating them. No religion becomes "perfect" just because a believer says so. For a non-Muslim atheist or someone belonging to another religion, Islam like all other religions is an imperfect religion out of so many out there:
Criticism of Islam - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Its a long article and every MUSLIM should read it before condemning it as propaganda. Islam has been criticized by atheists and adherents of other faiths alike in all times since Islam was born. A "perfect" religion cannot be criticized for its inconsistencies and shortcomings.

 

[Norwegian]

I hope you are not a follower if Islam.

That's it. That's the comment you get when some born-Muslim, raised-Muslim like myself chooses to criticize Islam as it's practiced today. There is not even a debate on reforming it when other people outright refuse to listen what you have got to say. They are brainwashed through early childhood that Islam is the only perfect religion out there, so be it. No need to run across the globe for better opportunities since Islamic Pakistan, Iran or Saudi Arabia is already providing the best what Islam can provide

 

[subincb]

Every religion says how to make yourself better and stop worrying about others, even the case with islam. 5 times they pray that all that exists is god... but the problem with some of the muslims is they dont care if they are doing the right thing but they want others to do what they think is right.

 

[Arya Desa]

How come there isn't a movement in islam like there is in christianity that views scriptures of ideas we consider unfit for modern day as symbolic or non literal?

 

[pumkinduke]

Sad but true.
When I posted it on some other thread that Islam was wrongly misinterpreted and taught, then it was objected upon.There're some muslim countries which do support radicals.I'm not naming any one but then many of us do know that it is true.

But hey....what about the atrocities done by USA/Britain in Vietnam,Aghanistan and Iraq?? so should we also say that Bush's/Tony Blair's Christianity also has a PROBLEM right now??

wait a second..
are u sayin that america entered vietman iraq afganistan on the basis of religon...?
you are compairing apples with khajur...lol "i hd to replace the orange its been used mny times"

 

[HariPrasad]

After all some people have the guts to say truth, Revolution starts like this.

 

[Black Widow]

Muslim scientist were the ones who have introduced logic and evidence as a basis of any worthy scientific work, based on the Koran's asking anyone to come up with any evidence to challenge it. So this is inherent in a religion some people are full-heartedly attached to, since it is based on scientific and logical endeavor.

Oh Maulana! stop giving this non-sense logic... You are talking as if before Koran was written, there was no logic and evidence.. or Before Islam was founded there was no civilization.

much before Dharmic ppl of Arabia were worshiping al-aha (the moon God), China was well established civilization. Arostotle and Socrat were born much before Allah was introduced to Muslims. May be Islam borrowed some knowledge from east and propagate to west..

calling Muslim introduced logic and evidence is horse sh!t...