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Nuclear Deterrence: Global Islam, Palestine and the Western chopping board.

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  • We often hear how more than 50 Muslim countries can't prevent the industrial scale slaughter of Palestinians by the Israeli apartheid.
  • Allegations range from being unwilling to impotent, even cowardly.
  • The inaction and ineptitude of current lot of leaders of Global Islam is to blame. It is also to blame for the rise of reactionaries like AQ.
  • If the leaders of Global Islam won't protect the Palestinians - who will?, will it empower emerging political movements?
  • How does global Islam rise up to the nuclear blackmail of the Israeli apartheid? - an umbrella under which Israel is able to murder women, children, elderly, civilians and is allowed by Global North to bombard hospitals, ambulances, mosques even churches.
  • Is it possible for Global Islam to balance the scales with Israel and its patron states without a common nuclear deterrence in place? - especially when Israeli apartheid is losing the conventional balance of power in MENA?
  • If the strategic balance is necessary, how could it be achieved, to tip the scales to an even?
  • Israeli nukes are definitely not pointed at the Global North, China, India or Russia. Their only intended targets are Muslim cities. Does that not create cause for Global Islam to establish a common nuclear deterrence umbrella, designed to thwart any possibility of Israeli first nuclear strike and to call its nuclear bluff?
  • Mass scale murder of Palestinians can only be stopped if Israel's blackmail card is neutralised by establishing similar capabilities across the MENA region - and perhaps Turkiye?
  • Will such an agreement - increase the negotiating power of Global Islam?
  • What about the deployment of a Muslim conventional deterrence force in Palestine and to defend Al-Aqsa?
If these thoughts are not supported by your infinite wisdom, what is your alternative?


Floor is open.
 
There is currently no such thing as global Islam in terms of political representation. The leaders of Muslim countries are "representative" of thier nation states not Islam.

The only representative of global Islam is a Caliphate.

Unless we re-establish the Caliphate or build an organisation in that spirit - economic interests will never be put ahead of religious duty.

In Saudi and UAE people have been detained for expressing support for the Palestinians. In Pakistan police have stopped protests, in Chechnya the Mujahid in Chief of Russia - Kadyrov threatened to shoot protestors.

I don't think it's possible until there is widespread rebellion across the Muslim world.
 
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First step would be too recognize those that are causing internal problems within ones country.
Everytime a decent politician/leader tries to rise to the power, he gets dealt with.
Once the enemy within is taken care of an alliance needs to be created. Like NATO.
Issues like Palestine (too late now) kashmir or any other Muslim minority state that might be subjected to atrocities in the future needs to be highlighted and a solution should be provided.

Enemies only attack at the weakest point. We strengthen those weak points and we force enemies to show their hands.
Groups like ttp, isis, hamas need to be accountade for and not left to do as they please. Because their actions impact us all.
 
Yes, deterrence is needed. It can be a collective one due to fear and 'global ..' can be a label. Not far from reality though as Isreal will see us no different than those Palestinians. If they could do, they wd have dealt with all Arabs, Pakistanis, etc..

There is a strategic shift. Palestinian issue is globalised and Muslims can see their helpness. Arabs have seen that Indians, Israelis, and the West consider them less of a human (couple it with Ukranian refugees reporting that blue eyes, white skin refugees). Therefore, Arabs have to wire together with like-minded or sympathetic nations. In a nutshell, Pak's importance has arisen in Gulf countries. Still, they cannot ignore India's big market.

Nothing should be global. As political differences change after a few kilometres. In addition, a global deterrence would need a global backlash. Such as Pak or Gulf fighting their enemies would make the whole Muslim world a legitimate target. Plus, it will be easy for the enemy to divide and conquer.

I think our target should be long term and we must build ourselves and neighbours. So far we are pitted against each other. Iran-Saudi normalisation is a good omen. Never forget, the west didn't agree to a ceasefire even. Build Iraq and Yemen.

Now, Turkey should first go for nuclear weapons. SA just should in Nuclear Power Generation from China. Build the capacity at least. Make Iran stronger by trade. Help to rebuild Syria and Lebonan. Burry all the hatchets. Increase China's presence in the Gulf when the US is busy in the Mediterranean now.

In summary, the Hamas act should open Muslim leadership's eyes to their vulnerabilities and make their new alliances more on security than just business.
 
  • We often hear how more than 50 Muslim countries can't prevent the industrial scale slaughter of Palestinians by the Israeli apartheid.
  • Allegations range from being unwilling to impotent, even cowardly.
  • The inaction and ineptitude of current lot of leaders of Global Islam is to blame. It is also to blame for the rise of reactionaries like AQ.
  • If the leaders of Global Islam won't protect the Palestinians - who will?, will it empower emerging political movements?
  • How does global Islam rise up to the nuclear blackmail of the Israeli apartheid? - an umbrella under which Israel is able to murder women, children, elderly, civilians and is allowed by Global North to bombard hospitals, ambulances, mosques even churches.
  • Is it possible for Global Islam to balance the scales with Israel and its patron states without a common nuclear deterrence in place? - especially when Israeli apartheid is losing the conventional balance of power in MENA?
  • If the strategic balance is necessary, how could it be achieved, to tip the scales to an even?
  • Israeli nukes are definitely not pointed at the Global North, China, India or Russia. Their only intended targets are Muslim cities. Does that not create cause for Global Islam to establish a common nuclear deterrence umbrella, designed to thwart any possibility of Israeli first nuclear strike and to call its nuclear bluff?
  • Mass scale murder of Palestinians can only be stopped if Israel's blackmail card is neutralised by establishing similar capabilities across the MENA region - and perhaps Turkiye?
  • Will such an agreement - increase the negotiating power of Global Islam?
  • What about the deployment of a Muslim conventional deterrence force in Palestine and to defend Al-Aqsa?
If these thoughts are not supported by your infinite wisdom, what is your alternative?


Floor is open.

The shady characters have now been exposed on broad daylight. The most immediate and influential nations close to Palestine have simply abandoned the cause. The Palestinian cause doesn't hold any weight for GCC Arab nations.

I hate to bring it to the people. There is no ummah or global Islam. There are fractured nations that are all vying for personal interests.
 
There is currently no such thing as global Islam in terms of political representation. The leaders of Muslim countries are "representative" of thier nation states not Islam.

The only representative of global Islam is a Caliphate.

Unless we re-establish the Caliphate or build an organisation in that spirit - economic interests will never be put ahead of religious duty.

In Saudi and UAE people have been detained for expressing support for the Palestinians. In Pakistan police have stopped protests, in Chechnya the Mujahid in Chief of Russia - Kadyrov threatened to shoot protestors.

I don't think it's possible until there is widespread rebellion across the Muslim world.

The global Islam has nothing to do with the Caliphate.
 
  • We often hear how more than 50 Muslim countries can't prevent the industrial scale slaughter of Palestinians by the Israeli apartheid.
  • Allegations range from being unwilling to impotent, even cowardly.
  • The inaction and ineptitude of current lot of leaders of Global Islam is to blame. It is also to blame for the rise of reactionaries like AQ.
  • If the leaders of Global Islam won't protect the Palestinians - who will?, will it empower emerging political movements?
  • How does global Islam rise up to the nuclear blackmail of the Israeli apartheid? - an umbrella under which Israel is able to murder women, children, elderly, civilians and is allowed by Global North to bombard hospitals, ambulances, mosques even churches.
  • Is it possible for Global Islam to balance the scales with Israel and its patron states without a common nuclear deterrence in place? - especially when Israeli apartheid is losing the conventional balance of power in MENA?
  • If the strategic balance is necessary, how could it be achieved, to tip the scales to an even?
  • Israeli nukes are definitely not pointed at the Global North, China, India or Russia. Their only intended targets are Muslim cities. Does that not create cause for Global Islam to establish a common nuclear deterrence umbrella, designed to thwart any possibility of Israeli first nuclear strike and to call its nuclear bluff?
  • Mass scale murder of Palestinians can only be stopped if Israel's blackmail card is neutralised by establishing similar capabilities across the MENA region - and perhaps Turkiye?
  • Will such an agreement - increase the negotiating power of Global Islam?
  • What about the deployment of a Muslim conventional deterrence force in Palestine and to defend Al-Aqsa?
If these thoughts are not supported by your infinite wisdom, what is your alternative?


Floor is open.

First, two important observations... the hypocrites at the top got exposed for who and what they are... where their priorities lie. Which brings about a positive outcome, a method or workaround to obviate or dissolve such structures, such perch/pedestal.

Second, rent payer are not free! Indentured pay a sum to live and those individually, by descent or creed and/or as a collective to tax collector, for a utility or creditors...
Cannot make independent decisions!
Cannot stand up for what is right!
Cannot get off from predetermined circle.

Their immediate concern is to keep a balance and stay above water, lest they sink. They're like cattle tied to a pole going in circles...

Third, the installed and recognized junta colonizing Muslims is an acceptable compromise by the collective west... people more concerned by their own immediate satisfaction and greed are a known quantity, merely acting as enablers. Conjuring up faith, family and future prospects for status quo...

In light of the above, I'd not say that the immediate concern are ballistic missiles or BMD... drones or counter drone parameters, NBC...etc. none of it!

We lost it on the table, By compromises! A real opposition, a principled stand mandates a response, a retaliation and that creates a deterrence. It necessitates an answer to the questions posed on the field. Arabs look to legitimize what they were doing behind closed doors... and present their hypocrisy in the daylight... at the ripe time. Their cover didn't just drop they worked for it... for decades to create an environment that obviates public response and anger... their cohesion and faith... principles and their stand! Upholding the law... sanctity, ideals and life itself. They've been tortured and exterminated to the point that only a docile and agreeable public is left. Who have memorized their national chants ... accepting their illegal and illegitimate governance, elite and polity. They were molded to say Yes Sir and not think about authority... becoming drones... obeying work hours, living conditions, taxation and shown a dream they can die trying... knowing fully well that, those years spent harnessing that would extract their energies and kill decent!

So, I as an apologist for the oppressed say yes... they're slaves, nay we are all slaves.

The Western masses are enslaved... with outlets, to vent about their misery, drug themselves, fill themselves with cheap calories and watch p●rn(of all kinds) douse their senses, sorrows and die in agony!

But be proud of buildings and structures around them that they have no control or say over... expenses they can't justify and%or get sent to die in faraway wars of aggression to maintain an empire!
 
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  • We often hear how more than 50 Muslim countries can't prevent the industrial scale slaughter of Palestinians by the Israeli apartheid.
  • Allegations range from being unwilling to impotent, even cowardly.
  • The inaction and ineptitude of current lot of leaders of Global Islam is to blame. It is also to blame for the rise of reactionaries like AQ.
  • If the leaders of Global Islam won't protect the Palestinians - who will?, will it empower emerging political movements?
  • How does global Islam rise up to the nuclear blackmail of the Israeli apartheid? - an umbrella under which Israel is able to murder women, children, elderly, civilians and is allowed by Global North to bombard hospitals, ambulances, mosques even churches.
  • Is it possible for Global Islam to balance the scales with Israel and its patron states without a common nuclear deterrence in place? - especially when Israeli apartheid is losing the conventional balance of power in MENA?
  • If the strategic balance is necessary, how could it be achieved, to tip the scales to an even?
  • Israeli nukes are definitely not pointed at the Global North, China, India or Russia. Their only intended targets are Muslim cities. Does that not create cause for Global Islam to establish a common nuclear deterrence umbrella, designed to thwart any possibility of Israeli first nuclear strike and to call its nuclear bluff?
  • Mass scale murder of Palestinians can only be stopped if Israel's blackmail card is neutralised by establishing similar capabilities across the MENA region - and perhaps Turkiye?
  • Will such an agreement - increase the negotiating power of Global Islam?
  • What about the deployment of a Muslim conventional deterrence force in Palestine and to defend Al-Aqsa?
If these thoughts are not supported by your infinite wisdom, what is your alternative?


Floor is open.
I do agree that Israel's nuclear shield plays a role in their aggressiveness.

Most likely, Pakistan is basically the one we are expecting to provide this umbrella. Only superpowers like USA provide nuclear umbrellas to other countries weaker than it. Pakistan is barely surviving so it cannot currently even think of providing such an umbrella to anyone. Thus, a prerequisite of this plan is for Pakistan to become a very strong regional player, and a global player. I don't think anyone sees that happening in the near future.

Another point to think about is strategy. What does Pakistan gain by directly pointing its nukes at Israel? It will never do it if that calculus doesn't make sense. I don't see that happening either. MENA+Turkiye are:
A. Not interested in such an umbrella so why would Pakistan do it?
B. Cannot possibly hope to counteract the repercussions on Pakistan of such a move so why would Pakistan do it?
 
Here is a question to ponder. What would it take for the Muslim world to unite and create a caliphate.
 
What a foresight Jinnah and Iqbal had! A moth eaten Pakistan is better than no Pakistan.....

Now, the ME folks are slowly coming out if their deep comatose conditions as they're coming face to face with the fact that they're the next "Gazas". It's just a matter of time....

The wise Turkish analysts are already calling for a Pak-Turk nuclear deterrence agreement. I am pretty sure other leaders also know which door to knock...

Having said that Pak needs to fully leverage this "doomsday scenario", thanks to the radical Zionists and their puppets & poodles in the Western capitals, to finally make her Hakiki independent from the chokes of the West....
 
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all of these problems and even worse existed at the time of Saladin Ayubi

he wrote letters to all the Muslim leaders and none replied

at the time of Saladin there was 3 Caliphs who lived in massive palaces and none replied

at Acre they said Saladin was running around like a mother who has lost his child he was so worried about the Crusaders

Europe threw every thing they had at him from Europe came 5 Kings

Richard the Lion Heart from England, Balbosa, Frederick from Germany, Pope Urban II sent 1 million men alone and Philip II from France

and at the Battle of Hatton they said when you looked at the Crusaders you could never imagine anyone would ever die

and when Saladin was finished with them you could never imagine any of them ever lived

because simply put Saladin was a man of Allah Swt and a true Muslim

1 man changed the entire course of history if he is a TRUE believer and thats what we lack right now

a True believer

nothing to do with weapons nothing to do with numbers nothing to do with ammunition
 
The global Islam has nothing to do with the Caliphate.
What do you mean?

Here is a question to ponder. What would it take for the Muslim world to unite and create a caliphate.
The removal of our current elites. They all stand to lose money by putting the interests of thier nations first and implementing the will of thier people.
 
To all the critics here..which Muslim country (ies) is/are ready to confront the US and NATO face to face?
You all seem to jump this core fact of the matter!

Check Russia; eventhough it has 10 000 nuclear heads ..it is still almost stuck in Ukraine due to the US , EU and NATO support..

They are not hesitating to support Usrael either..in fact they have already sent their deterrence to the middle east in the form of 3 US ACs with their battle groups..submarines, ammunition and what have you!

Today,,Italian Typhoons were flying over the borders with Egypt to show some support to Usrael..All of this is military.. not mentioning the economic and political support up to the veto in the UN!
 
  • We often hear how more than 50 Muslim countries can't prevent the industrial scale slaughter of Palestinians by the Israeli apartheid.
  • Allegations range from being unwilling to impotent, even cowardly.
  • The inaction and ineptitude of current lot of leaders of Global Islam is to blame. It is also to blame for the rise of reactionaries like AQ.
  • If the leaders of Global Islam won't protect the Palestinians - who will?, will it empower emerging political movements?
  • How does global Islam rise up to the nuclear blackmail of the Israeli apartheid? - an umbrella under which Israel is able to murder women, children, elderly, civilians and is allowed by Global North to bombard hospitals, ambulances, mosques even churches.
  • Is it possible for Global Islam to balance the scales with Israel and its patron states without a common nuclear deterrence in place? - especially when Israeli apartheid is losing the conventional balance of power in MENA?
  • If the strategic balance is necessary, how could it be achieved, to tip the scales to an even?
  • Israeli nukes are definitely not pointed at the Global North, China, India or Russia. Their only intended targets are Muslim cities. Does that not create cause for Global Islam to establish a common nuclear deterrence umbrella, designed to thwart any possibility of Israeli first nuclear strike and to call its nuclear bluff?
  • Mass scale murder of Palestinians can only be stopped if Israel's blackmail card is neutralised by establishing similar capabilities across the MENA region - and perhaps Turkiye?
  • Will such an agreement - increase the negotiating power of Global Islam?
  • What about the deployment of a Muslim conventional deterrence force in Palestine and to defend Al-Aqsa?
If these thoughts are not supported by your infinite wisdom, what is your alternative?


Floor is open.
Other then Belly dancing and empty words you can count Turkey out. Only option is for Pakistan to start a pipeline of volunteers to help enforce peace in Palestine.
 
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Hadith of Prophet SAW
‘The nations will summon each other upon you as you call guests to eat from a plate of food,’ they said ‘Will we be few in number on that day O Messenger of God?’ He said, ‘No, rather you will be many on that day, but you will be [disunited and weak] like the foam on the ocean. And God will remove the fear in the hearts of your enemies and place in your hearts al-wahan.’ They said, ‘What is al-wahan O Messenger of God?’ He said, ‘Love of this world and hatred of death.’
 
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