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Democracy versus majoritarian will - The Hindu


It may not be the same Congress but many of the leaders of the new Congress did participate in freedom movement.
Dude we cannot let congress run the country if they are corrupt now, just because they did something good 70 years back.

But then again India does not have a better choice than BJP. BJP is not the ultimate and the best choice but one has to stick to it till it finds better alternative. BJP is more on the lines of "better than congress" AAP and all are still in infancy and naive to run the country.
 
Look mate, we have different positions and understandings on terms like nationalism and patriotism and what they stand for. I can delve deep and this conversation can go on and on so let's leave it at that. Just an article you might it find worth reading.

Democracy versus majoritarian will - The Hindu


It may not be the same Congress but many of the leaders of the new Congress did participate in freedom movement.

From nationalism he flew off the tangent and stopped at Kejriwal.

Now you see this Modi lover's agenda?

A word to the wise is enough.
One more overt bhakt, who was covert before.
 
Dude we cannot let congress run the country if they are corrupt now, just because they did something good 70 years back.

But then again India does not have a better choice than BJP. BJP is not the ultimate and the best choice but one has to stick to it till it finds better alternative. BJP is more on the lines of "better than congress" AAP and all are still in infancy and naive to run the country.
As I said earlier we live in a democracy and our country's constitution gives us the right to chose a representative and to disagree. You may find BJP a better option and I consider AAP to be the best alternative to Congress and BJP. You have all the rights to disagree with me and I hope you will reciprocate to me in the same way. Democracy isn't all about majoritarianism.:agree:

From nationalism he flew off the tangent and stopped at Kejriwal.

Now you see this Modi lover's agenda?

A word to the wise is enough.
One more overt bhakt, who was covert before.
Let's not dis him for supporting a party/person which you or me may not like.
 
Dengue in Delhi, Kejriwal is responsible.
Encephalitis in UP, principal is responsible.

Jai bharat mata.
 
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Although I understand haters's conspicuous reason for hatred towards RSS being a Pro Hindu orgn yet reading might help.

Not to forget no other minority demanded a separate country but majority of minority especially mainlanders from India. We didn't know then that unability of many to move to Pakistan that time for being a Pakistani (by blood) in a India would become a curse on our face. But time will come once more to send them to Mulk e Jannat which they envision day in day out living here in India & reaping all its benefits while cursing it most of the time for falling a Pro Hindu rule Post 2014.

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Of late, it has become fashionable for the old establishment media, in their new avatars, to spread the line that the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) and its leaders did not participate in the freedom struggle. So, we have an articlewhich authoritatively claims that ‘Hedgewar, the freedom fighter, was a pre-RSS Congressman, arrested and sentenced to a year’s imprisonment for his role in the Khilafat movement (1919-1924) – and that was his last participation in the freedom struggle.’

Here is the picture of Dr Hedgewar, in 1930, that is five years after he started the RSS, participating in the forest Satyagraha launched by Mahatma Gandhi.

Dr Hedgewar participating in the 1930 satyagraha against the British
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In 1930, when the Sangh was five years old, the Congress, having passed the resolution for complete independence a year earlier in December 1929, had announced that it would celebrate 26 January, 1930, as Independence Day. Following this, Dr Hedgewar wrote to all the Sangh officials:

The Congress has declared ‘independence’ to be its goal and the Congress Working Committee has announced that 26 January 1930 be celebrated as ‘independence day’ throughout the country. It is but natural that all of us should feel heartened that this all-India national body has come close to its goal of independence. It is, therefore, our duty to cooperate with any organisation that works keeping this purpose foremost. Therefore all shakas of the RSS should organise the gathering of all the Swayam Sevaks at six ‘o clock in the evening and salute the national flag which is the saffron flag. The true meaning of independence and how to present its goal must form the essence of the talk. Since we have accepted this goal of the Congress, the party must be congratulated for it. The report of this programme must be sent to us. (Dr Hedgewar’s letter dated 21-January-1930, Rakesh Sinha, Dr Keshav Baliram Hedgewar, Publications Division, 2015, p.95)
For those who would like to criticise Dr Hedgewar for calling the saffron flag as the national flag, let us remember that a year later in April 1931, the Congress Working Committee would appoint a flag committee which would also include Moulana Abul Kalam Azad and it would recommend the saffron flag as the national flag in its final report with the following words:

We felt that the flag must be distinctive, artistic, rectangular and non-communal. Opinion has been unanimous that our national flag should be of a single colour except for the colour of the device. If there is one colour that is more acceptable to the Indians as a whole, even as it is more distinctive than another, one that is associated with this ancient country by long tradition, it is the Kesari or saffron colour. ...
The Sangh as an organisation nevertheless kept away from all agitation-based politics. Not only did it keep away from Congress agitations it also never took part in the Hindu Maha Sabha ones. When the Maha Sabha announced its agitation against the Nizam, the Bhaganagar Satyagraha, the RSS refrained from participating in it.

A prominent former member of the RSS from Poona, who was with the Hindu Maha Sabha then, was very angry with the RSS for this. His name was Nathuram Vinayak Godse. He openly accused the RSS of frittering away the Hindu energy. Despite great respect that the Sangh had for Veer Savarkar, on 8 April 1940, in Poona, the RSS head Bhaurao Deshmukh gave a reply to the fringe elements in the Hindu Maha Sabha:

First of all, I wish to tell the malicious minds that the RSS is neither a military force for the Hindus nor the military wing of the Hindu Mahasabha. The Sangh’s endeavor is to make the Hindus nationalists in the true sense...
It is interesting to note that though individual leaders of the Congress and Hindu Mahasabha praised the RSS for its discipline, the absence of untouchability and the services it rendered, both the organisations wanted the Sangh to be under their political control. When the RSS refused to play party, scouts for both the parties, the Indian National Congress and the Hindu Mahasabha accused the Sangh of being communal and anti-Hindu respectively.

Bose and Hedgewar
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Despite strict non-involvement of the RSS in political movements directly, the Sangh was ready to help any political movement indirectly by supplying its cadre and allowing it to give their faculties and facilities, provided it worked for the cause of India’s welfare. Trailokyanath Chakravarty (1889–1970) was a Bengali revolutionary and freedom fighter. He met Dr Hedgewar who promised him that Sangh would provide him with cadre for the future revolution he was planning. (Satyavrata Ghosh, Remembering our revolutionaries, Marxist Study Forum, 1994 p.57) Sangh also helped Rajguru when the revolutionary lived as a fugitive.

Those in the Congress who could not rise above the pettiness of sectarian politics had passed the resolution in 1934 that their members could not join the RSS. Eminent historian Dr Kanchanmoy Mojumdar reveals that four years after the resolution of the Congress against the RSS, 'Bose reportedly sent emissaries to Hedgewar in 1939, perhaps seeking his help for an armed uprising.'

‘Modern Review’ (March 1941) records that ‘Dr Hedgewar died in Nagpur of high blood pressure at the age of 51 only. Just one day before his death Subhas Chandra Bose went to see him.’

‘Guruji’ Golwalkar was different from Dr Hedgewar in his approach to politics. Unlike Dr Hedgewar who came from the background of the Calcutta-based revolutionary group Anuseelan Samiti, Golwalkar had taken spiritual initiation from Swami Akandananda, a direct disciple of Sri Ramakrishna. Swami Akandananda was known for his humanitarian services.

‘Guruji’ Golwalkar’s Guru (right) was a direct disciple of Sri Ramakrishna. He was moved by the condition of a Muslim girl in famine and decided to serve humanity in that very village, suspending the pilgrimage he was undertaking.
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Golwalkar shunned politics. He was more into organisation building. This was the time when politics too had changed in the national arena. The threat of Partition had become very real. Along with the ‘Quit India’ movement, the fate of Hindus and Sikhs in the provinces of Western Punjab and Eastern Bengal, was becoming worrisome.

In the eventuality of Partition, towards which the events were fast gravitating despite the bravado and empty sentimental rhetoric of Congress leaders, the Hindus and Sikhs in Western Punjab, as well as Hindus and Buddhist tribes in East Bengal needed to be protected and safeguarded. So, Guruji Golwalkar felt the need to spread and strengthen the organisation. As the RSS baiters never tire of repeating, 'Anderson and Damle point out that Golwalkar believed that the British should not be given any excuse to ban the RSS.'

The old media in its new online webzines recycle the statement of Guruji Golwalkar regarding the 1942 movement. The writer of the latest piece in The Wire quotes:

“In 1942 also there was a strong sentiment in the hearts of many…. Sangh is an organisation of inactive persons, their talks are useless, not only outsiders but also many of our volunteers did talk like this. They were greatly disgusted too.”
But the quote leaves out two important sentences: “At that time too, the routine work of the Sangh continued. Sangh decided not to do anything directly.” The operational term here is that the Sangh decided not to do anything directly. The British Intelligence reports did say that they could not find any evidence to connect RSS as an organisation with the 1942 uprising. Nevertheless, the police did record many anti-British speeches made at the RSS training camps during the same period.

The British Intelligence reported that on 27 April 1942, at the training camp of the RSS at Pune ‘Golwalkar condemned those who were selfishly helping the British Government.’ On 28 April 1942, he declared that the Sangh has resolved to do its duty even if the whole world goes against it and impressed on the volunteers that they must be ready to sacrifice their lives for the cause of the country. (No.D. Home Pol. (Intelligence) Section F. No. 28 Pol).

Another report of the Home Department, Pol. F. No. 28/3/43-Pol (I) shows the anti-British nature prevailing at the RSS camp at Jubbalpore where a speaker proclaimed that the aim of the Sangh was to drive the British out of India and the sentiment was repeated by other speakers.

Achyut Patwardan, Nana Patil and Aruna Asaf Ali were some of the prominent freedom fighters of Quit India Movement who stayed in the houses of important RSS leaders during their struggle.
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Many freedom fighters received vital assistance from the RSS. Aruna Asaf Ali took asylum in the house of Lala Hans Raj Gupta, and Nana Patil was protected by Pandit Damodar Satavalekar and Sane Guruji stayed with Bhausaheb Deshmukh and Babasaheb Apte.

On 16 August 1942, at Chimur in Maharashtra, many RSS workers participated directly in a Quit India agitation which resulted in a brutal suppression by the British. Dada Naik, who was also the head of the Chimur RSS branch, was sentenced to death by the British. The Hindu Mahasabha leader Dr N B Khare took up his case with the authorities. Ramdas Rampure, another RSS cadre, was shot dead by the British.

Confidential reports blamed two persons for these uprisings. One was Dada Naik who, the report said, was 'was largely behind the recent disturbances' and the other was Sant Tukdoji Maharaj, who was closely associated with the RSS, and was suspected to have been involved in disturbances at Chimur. Later Sant Tukdoji Maharaj became one of the co-founders of the Vishva Hindu Parishad (VHP).

Sant Tukdoji Maharaj (right) is seen here with Sant Gaadge Maharaj. Both were fierce social reformers. Tukodji Maharaj was associated with the RSS and was targeted by the British. He sang not only about the Divine and freedom. He also sang Bhajans on the need for hygiene and the need for toilets.
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That Guruji Golwalkar did not blame the British overtly for India’s downfall is another canard spread by the old media. In fact, throughout his term as the head of the RSS, he took extraordinary care not to blame external agencies for any of the problems of Hindu society and also the Sangh. For example, in the case of religious conversions, he forbade his followers to put the blame on Christians and Muslims. In this context he stated:

Many workers appear to take delight in blaming others for all ills. Some may put the blame on the political perversities, others on the aggressive activities of the Christians or Muslims and such other faiths. Let our workers keep their minds free from such tendencies and work for our people and our Dharma in the right spirit, lend a helping hand to all our brethren who need help and strive to relieve distress wherever we see it. [Bunch of Thoughts, p.277]
When the ban on RSS could not be legally sustained by the Nehru government and was lifted, Guruji said to the cadre, who uttered intemperate words about Nehru, thus:
Do not let your minds be overcome with bitterness for those who, you feel, have done injustice to you. If the teeth were to bite the tongue do we pull out the teeth? Even those who have done injustice to us are our own people. So we must forget and forgive.
: ‘Guruji’ Golwalkar with Ram Manohar Lohia: Photo courtesy Tapan Gosh.
‘Guruji’ Golwalkar with Sant Tukdoji Maharaj during the founding of the VHP
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The Wire’s article associates this view of Guruji Golwalkar with the Bengal famine. Here it should be remembered that during the Bengal famine it was Dr Shyamaprasad Mukherjee, a Hindu Mahasabha leader, closer to the RSS than others, who was instrumental in fighting the famine through relief centres. Madhusree Mukerjee had brought to light the agony Shyamprasad Mukherjee felt and the service he rendered during the famine in her classic ‘Churchill’s Secret War’ (Tranquebar, 2010). British historian James Hartfield points out that Mukherjee called on the cultivators not to sell to government agents, saying 'the bureaucracy has taken away the food for the army and for exports'. He also points out that many of Bose supporters worked in the relief centres run by Shyamaprasad Mukherjee.

His magnanimity and ability to rise above the partisan interests reached a new height when during the Chinese aggression, he declared that in that hour of crisis instead of criticising we should stand with the government. ‘We are a hundred and five more’, he quoted Mahabharata. The stopping of a serial which bitterly attacked Nehru’s blunders on the Chinese aggression, in the RSS magazine ‘Organiser’, made Sitaram Goel, a great intellectual and a fearless historian, a lifelong bitter critic of the Sangh.

However, the services which the RSS rendered to the Indian army, made Nehru revise his own views of the RSS. The Prime Minister who had declared that he would not give even a single inch of land for their flag in the country now invited RSS to participate in the Republic day parade.

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References:

-Dina Nath Mishra, RSS: Myth and Reality, Vikas Publishing House, 1980
-Kavita Narawane, The Great Betrayal, 1966-1977, Popular Prakashan, 1980
-C.P.Bhishikar, Shri Guruji, Pioneer of a new era, Sahitya Sindhu Prakashana, Bangalore, 1999
-Kanchanmoy Mojumdar, Saffron versus green: communal politics in the Central --Provinces and Berar, 1919-1947, Manohar, 2003
-James Heartfield, Unpatriotic History of the Second World War , London, Zer0 Books, 2012
-Rakesh Sinha, Builders of Modern India: Dr. Keshav Baliram Hedgewar, Publications Division, 2015
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Look mate, we have different positions and understandings on terms like nationalism and patriotism and what they stand for. I can delve deep and this conversation can go on and on so let's leave it at that. Just an article you might it find worth reading.

Democracy versus majoritarian will - The Hindu


It may not be the same Congress but many of the leaders of the new Congress did participate in freedom movement.
Look mate, we have different positions and understandings on terms like nationalism and patriotism and what they stand for. I can delve deep and this conversation can go on and on so let's leave it at that. Just an article you might it find worth reading.

Democracy versus majoritarian will - The Hindu


It may not be the same Congress but many of the leaders of the new Congress did participate in freedom movement.
But words of our founding father was not taken. Instead of making it as a non political platform it turned into a full fledged political party. It was because of the name congress many choose to alien.
I know it from a personal experience which originated in my family.

Although I understand haters's conspicuous reason for hatred towards RSS being a Pro Hindu orgn yet reading might help.

Not to forget no other minority demanded a separate country but majority of minority especially mainlanders from India. We didn't know then that unability of many to move to Pakistan that time for being a Pakistani (by blood) in a India would become a curse on our face. But time will come once more to send them to Mulk e Jannat which they envision day in day out living here in India & reaping all its benefits while cursing it most of the time for falling a Pro Hindu rule Post 2014.

---
Of late, it has become fashionable for the old establishment media, in their new avatars, to spread the line that the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) and its leaders did not participate in the freedom struggle. So, we have an articlewhich authoritatively claims that ‘Hedgewar, the freedom fighter, was a pre-RSS Congressman, arrested and sentenced to a year’s imprisonment for his role in the Khilafat movement (1919-1924) – and that was his last participation in the freedom struggle.’

Here is the picture of Dr Hedgewar, in 1930, that is five years after he started the RSS, participating in the forest Satyagraha launched by Mahatma Gandhi.

Dr Hedgewar participating in the 1930 satyagraha against the British
swarajya%2F2017-04%2F7b2c5040-90a9-4402-a6be-a1ec4a3c9818%2Fdoctorji.jpg

In 1930, when the Sangh was five years old, the Congress, having passed the resolution for complete independence a year earlier in December 1929, had announced that it would celebrate 26 January, 1930, as Independence Day. Following this, Dr Hedgewar wrote to all the Sangh officials:

The Congress has declared ‘independence’ to be its goal and the Congress Working Committee has announced that 26 January 1930 be celebrated as ‘independence day’ throughout the country. It is but natural that all of us should feel heartened that this all-India national body has come close to its goal of independence. It is, therefore, our duty to cooperate with any organisation that works keeping this purpose foremost. Therefore all shakas of the RSS should organise the gathering of all the Swayam Sevaks at six ‘o clock in the evening and salute the national flag which is the saffron flag. The true meaning of independence and how to present its goal must form the essence of the talk. Since we have accepted this goal of the Congress, the party must be congratulated for it. The report of this programme must be sent to us. (Dr Hedgewar’s letter dated 21-January-1930, Rakesh Sinha, Dr Keshav Baliram Hedgewar, Publications Division, 2015, p.95)
For those who would like to criticise Dr Hedgewar for calling the saffron flag as the national flag, let us remember that a year later in April 1931, the Congress Working Committee would appoint a flag committee which would also include Moulana Abul Kalam Azad and it would recommend the saffron flag as the national flag in its final report with the following words:

We felt that the flag must be distinctive, artistic, rectangular and non-communal. Opinion has been unanimous that our national flag should be of a single colour except for the colour of the device. If there is one colour that is more acceptable to the Indians as a whole, even as it is more distinctive than another, one that is associated with this ancient country by long tradition, it is the Kesari or saffron colour. ...
The Sangh as an organisation nevertheless kept away from all agitation-based politics. Not only did it keep away from Congress agitations it also never took part in the Hindu Maha Sabha ones. When the Maha Sabha announced its agitation against the Nizam, the Bhaganagar Satyagraha, the RSS refrained from participating in it.

A prominent former member of the RSS from Poona, who was with the Hindu Maha Sabha then, was very angry with the RSS for this. His name was Nathuram Vinayak Godse. He openly accused the RSS of frittering away the Hindu energy. Despite great respect that the Sangh had for Veer Savarkar, on 8 April 1940, in Poona, the RSS head Bhaurao Deshmukh gave a reply to the fringe elements in the Hindu Maha Sabha:

First of all, I wish to tell the malicious minds that the RSS is neither a military force for the Hindus nor the military wing of the Hindu Mahasabha. The Sangh’s endeavor is to make the Hindus nationalists in the true sense...
It is interesting to note that though individual leaders of the Congress and Hindu Mahasabha praised the RSS for its discipline, the absence of untouchability and the services it rendered, both the organisations wanted the Sangh to be under their political control. When the RSS refused to play party, scouts for both the parties, the Indian National Congress and the Hindu Mahasabha accused the Sangh of being communal and anti-Hindu respectively.

Bose and Hedgewar
swarajya%2F2017-04%2F34e19279-c82f-4da7-89a1-bea7d5be0041%2Fdoctorji2.jpg

Despite strict non-involvement of the RSS in political movements directly, the Sangh was ready to help any political movement indirectly by supplying its cadre and allowing it to give their faculties and facilities, provided it worked for the cause of India’s welfare. Trailokyanath Chakravarty (1889–1970) was a Bengali revolutionary and freedom fighter. He met Dr Hedgewar who promised him that Sangh would provide him with cadre for the future revolution he was planning. (Satyavrata Ghosh, Remembering our revolutionaries, Marxist Study Forum, 1994 p.57) Sangh also helped Rajguru when the revolutionary lived as a fugitive.

Those in the Congress who could not rise above the pettiness of sectarian politics had passed the resolution in 1934 that their members could not join the RSS. Eminent historian Dr Kanchanmoy Mojumdar reveals that four years after the resolution of the Congress against the RSS, 'Bose reportedly sent emissaries to Hedgewar in 1939, perhaps seeking his help for an armed uprising.'

‘Modern Review’ (March 1941) records that ‘Dr Hedgewar died in Nagpur of high blood pressure at the age of 51 only. Just one day before his death Subhas Chandra Bose went to see him.’

‘Guruji’ Golwalkar was different from Dr Hedgewar in his approach to politics. Unlike Dr Hedgewar who came from the background of the Calcutta-based revolutionary group Anuseelan Samiti, Golwalkar had taken spiritual initiation from Swami Akandananda, a direct disciple of Sri Ramakrishna. Swami Akandananda was known for his humanitarian services.

‘Guruji’ Golwalkar’s Guru (right) was a direct disciple of Sri Ramakrishna. He was moved by the condition of a Muslim girl in famine and decided to serve humanity in that very village, suspending the pilgrimage he was undertaking.
swarajya%2F2017-04%2F002f117a-ebfe-4c9f-a3e3-99da9575d0da%2Fguruji_akhandananda.jpg

Golwalkar shunned politics. He was more into organisation building. This was the time when politics too had changed in the national arena. The threat of Partition had become very real. Along with the ‘Quit India’ movement, the fate of Hindus and Sikhs in the provinces of Western Punjab and Eastern Bengal, was becoming worrisome.

In the eventuality of Partition, towards which the events were fast gravitating despite the bravado and empty sentimental rhetoric of Congress leaders, the Hindus and Sikhs in Western Punjab, as well as Hindus and Buddhist tribes in East Bengal needed to be protected and safeguarded. So, Guruji Golwalkar felt the need to spread and strengthen the organisation. As the RSS baiters never tire of repeating, 'Anderson and Damle point out that Golwalkar believed that the British should not be given any excuse to ban the RSS.'

The old media in its new online webzines recycle the statement of Guruji Golwalkar regarding the 1942 movement. The writer of the latest piece in The Wire quotes:

“In 1942 also there was a strong sentiment in the hearts of many…. Sangh is an organisation of inactive persons, their talks are useless, not only outsiders but also many of our volunteers did talk like this. They were greatly disgusted too.”
But the quote leaves out two important sentences: “At that time too, the routine work of the Sangh continued. Sangh decided not to do anything directly.” The operational term here is that the Sangh decided not to do anything directly. The British Intelligence reports did say that they could not find any evidence to connect RSS as an organisation with the 1942 uprising. Nevertheless, the police did record many anti-British speeches made at the RSS training camps during the same period.

The British Intelligence reported that on 27 April 1942, at the training camp of the RSS at Pune ‘Golwalkar condemned those who were selfishly helping the British Government.’ On 28 April 1942, he declared that the Sangh has resolved to do its duty even if the whole world goes against it and impressed on the volunteers that they must be ready to sacrifice their lives for the cause of the country. (No.D. Home Pol. (Intelligence) Section F. No. 28 Pol).

Another report of the Home Department, Pol. F. No. 28/3/43-Pol (I) shows the anti-British nature prevailing at the RSS camp at Jubbalpore where a speaker proclaimed that the aim of the Sangh was to drive the British out of India and the sentiment was repeated by other speakers.

Achyut Patwardan, Nana Patil and Aruna Asaf Ali were some of the prominent freedom fighters of Quit India Movement who stayed in the houses of important RSS leaders during their struggle.
swarajya%2F2017-04%2F396e5f2b-445c-4428-93e2-6c409c6a5529%2Ffreedom_fighters.jpg

Many freedom fighters received vital assistance from the RSS. Aruna Asaf Ali took asylum in the house of Lala Hans Raj Gupta, and Nana Patil was protected by Pandit Damodar Satavalekar and Sane Guruji stayed with Bhausaheb Deshmukh and Babasaheb Apte.

On 16 August 1942, at Chimur in Maharashtra, many RSS workers participated directly in a Quit India agitation which resulted in a brutal suppression by the British. Dada Naik, who was also the head of the Chimur RSS branch, was sentenced to death by the British. The Hindu Mahasabha leader Dr N B Khare took up his case with the authorities. Ramdas Rampure, another RSS cadre, was shot dead by the British.

Confidential reports blamed two persons for these uprisings. One was Dada Naik who, the report said, was 'was largely behind the recent disturbances' and the other was Sant Tukdoji Maharaj, who was closely associated with the RSS, and was suspected to have been involved in disturbances at Chimur. Later Sant Tukdoji Maharaj became one of the co-founders of the Vishva Hindu Parishad (VHP).

Sant Tukdoji Maharaj (right) is seen here with Sant Gaadge Maharaj. Both were fierce social reformers. Tukodji Maharaj was associated with the RSS and was targeted by the British. He sang not only about the Divine and freedom. He also sang Bhajans on the need for hygiene and the need for toilets.
swarajya%2F2017-04%2F38395b2b-4144-4483-b7af-0a54ec6f499b%2Fsant_maharaj.jpg

That Guruji Golwalkar did not blame the British overtly for India’s downfall is another canard spread by the old media. In fact, throughout his term as the head of the RSS, he took extraordinary care not to blame external agencies for any of the problems of Hindu society and also the Sangh. For example, in the case of religious conversions, he forbade his followers to put the blame on Christians and Muslims. In this context he stated:

Many workers appear to take delight in blaming others for all ills. Some may put the blame on the political perversities, others on the aggressive activities of the Christians or Muslims and such other faiths. Let our workers keep their minds free from such tendencies and work for our people and our Dharma in the right spirit, lend a helping hand to all our brethren who need help and strive to relieve distress wherever we see it. [Bunch of Thoughts, p.277]
When the ban on RSS could not be legally sustained by the Nehru government and was lifted, Guruji said to the cadre, who uttered intemperate words about Nehru, thus:
Do not let your minds be overcome with bitterness for those who, you feel, have done injustice to you. If the teeth were to bite the tongue do we pull out the teeth? Even those who have done injustice to us are our own people. So we must forget and forgive.

: ‘Guruji’ Golwalkar with Ram Manohar Lohia: Photo courtesy Tapan Gosh.
‘Guruji’ Golwalkar with Sant Tukdoji Maharaj during the founding of the VHP
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The Wire’s article associates this view of Guruji Golwalkar with the Bengal famine. Here it should be remembered that during the Bengal famine it was Dr Shyamaprasad Mukherjee, a Hindu Mahasabha leader, closer to the RSS than others, who was instrumental in fighting the famine through relief centres. Madhusree Mukerjee had brought to light the agony Shyamprasad Mukherjee felt and the service he rendered during the famine in her classic ‘Churchill’s Secret War’ (Tranquebar, 2010). British historian James Hartfield points out that Mukherjee called on the cultivators not to sell to government agents, saying 'the bureaucracy has taken away the food for the army and for exports'. He also points out that many of Bose supporters worked in the relief centres run by Shyamaprasad Mukherjee.

His magnanimity and ability to rise above the partisan interests reached a new height when during the Chinese aggression, he declared that in that hour of crisis instead of criticising we should stand with the government. ‘We are a hundred and five more’, he quoted Mahabharata. The stopping of a serial which bitterly attacked Nehru’s blunders on the Chinese aggression, in the RSS magazine ‘Organiser’, made Sitaram Goel, a great intellectual and a fearless historian, a lifelong bitter critic of the Sangh.

However, the services which the RSS rendered to the Indian army, made Nehru revise his own views of the RSS. The Prime Minister who had declared that he would not give even a single inch of land for their flag in the country now invited RSS to participate in the Republic day parade.

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References:

-Dina Nath Mishra, RSS: Myth and Reality, Vikas Publishing House, 1980
-Kavita Narawane, The Great Betrayal, 1966-1977, Popular Prakashan, 1980
-C.P.Bhishikar, Shri Guruji, Pioneer of a new era, Sahitya Sindhu Prakashana, Bangalore, 1999
-Kanchanmoy Mojumdar, Saffron versus green: communal politics in the Central --Provinces and Berar, 1919-1947, Manohar, 2003
-James Heartfield, Unpatriotic History of the Second World War , London, Zer0 Books, 2012
-Rakesh Sinha, Builders of Modern India: Dr. Keshav Baliram Hedgewar, Publications Division, 2015
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Great read.
 
Everyone must sing ‘Vande Mataram’, insists BJP minister who is unable to sing it himself
Another minister can barely recite the song, with mangled lyrics.



There is a rising demand among BJP ministers to make Vande Mantaram mandatory in all schools of the country. Unfortunately, some of the active propagators of this agenda are themselves unable to deliver when they’re asked to “prove their nationalism” by singing the poem from Bankim Chandra Chattopadhyay’s Anandamath.

And that’s what happened during a Newsroom debate with India Today anchor Rahul Kanwal, when UP Minister of State for Minority Welfare, the BJP’s Baldev Singh Aulakh, was asked to sing four lines. A video (above) shows that Aulakh applied every tactic to get himself out of singing, though he kept insisting that every citizen of the country must sing the National Song.

The anchor even stopped the debate midway and asked the minister pointedly, several times, whether he knew the song or not. Aulakh kept deflecting the question, and made up one excuse after another to avoid singing the song, including the NDA government, Independence Day celebrations, not wanting a certificate for singing, a performance over the telephone for the anchor, and much, much more.

Elsewhere, BJP Minister Raj Purohit in Maharashtra, who had previously made a furore outside the State Assembly, was also asked to sing Vande Mataram. This is what he came up with (below):




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TimesNow: This is what happened when BJP MLA Raj Purohit was asked to Vande Mataram #VandeMataramForAll

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HUUUUGEE difference is there between being UNABLE and being UNWILLING.

The most fanatic Nazi Gaultiers, who prescribed shoot at sight any civilian who would attempt evacuation in the face of a Russian onslaught, were the first ones to flee their cities. Radical nationalists have often failed to comply their own prescriptions. Nothing new in it.
That is not true.

A LARGE number of Nazi gauletiers actually killed themselves along with their whole families. Many escaped as well.

Besides there can be no parallels between Hindu leaders and Nazis either.

Although I understand haters's conspicuous reason for hatred towards RSS being a Pro Hindu orgn yet reading might help.

Not to forget no other minority demanded a separate country but majority of minority especially mainlanders from India. We didn't know then that unability of many to move to Pakistan that time for being a Pakistani (by blood) in a India would become a curse on our face. But time will come once more to send them to Mulk e Jannat which they envision day in day out living here in India & reaping all its benefits while cursing it most of the time for falling a Pro Hindu rule Post 2014.

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Of late, it has become fashionable for the old establishment media, in their new avatars, to spread the line that the Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) and its leaders did not participate in the freedom struggle. So, we have an articlewhich authoritatively claims that ‘Hedgewar, the freedom fighter, was a pre-RSS Congressman, arrested and sentenced to a year’s imprisonment for his role in the Khilafat movement (1919-1924) – and that was his last participation in the freedom struggle.’

Here is the picture of Dr Hedgewar, in 1930, that is five years after he started the RSS, participating in the forest Satyagraha launched by Mahatma Gandhi.

Dr Hedgewar participating in the 1930 satyagraha against the British
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In 1930, when the Sangh was five years old, the Congress, having passed the resolution for complete independence a year earlier in December 1929, had announced that it would celebrate 26 January, 1930, as Independence Day. Following this, Dr Hedgewar wrote to all the Sangh officials:

The Congress has declared ‘independence’ to be its goal and the Congress Working Committee has announced that 26 January 1930 be celebrated as ‘independence day’ throughout the country. It is but natural that all of us should feel heartened that this all-India national body has come close to its goal of independence. It is, therefore, our duty to cooperate with any organisation that works keeping this purpose foremost. Therefore all shakas of the RSS should organise the gathering of all the Swayam Sevaks at six ‘o clock in the evening and salute the national flag which is the saffron flag. The true meaning of independence and how to present its goal must form the essence of the talk. Since we have accepted this goal of the Congress, the party must be congratulated for it. The report of this programme must be sent to us. (Dr Hedgewar’s letter dated 21-January-1930, Rakesh Sinha, Dr Keshav Baliram Hedgewar, Publications Division, 2015, p.95)
For those who would like to criticise Dr Hedgewar for calling the saffron flag as the national flag, let us remember that a year later in April 1931, the Congress Working Committee would appoint a flag committee which would also include Moulana Abul Kalam Azad and it would recommend the saffron flag as the national flag in its final report with the following words:

We felt that the flag must be distinctive, artistic, rectangular and non-communal. Opinion has been unanimous that our national flag should be of a single colour except for the colour of the device. If there is one colour that is more acceptable to the Indians as a whole, even as it is more distinctive than another, one that is associated with this ancient country by long tradition, it is the Kesari or saffron colour. ...
The Sangh as an organisation nevertheless kept away from all agitation-based politics. Not only did it keep away from Congress agitations it also never took part in the Hindu Maha Sabha ones. When the Maha Sabha announced its agitation against the Nizam, the Bhaganagar Satyagraha, the RSS refrained from participating in it.

A prominent former member of the RSS from Poona, who was with the Hindu Maha Sabha then, was very angry with the RSS for this. His name was Nathuram Vinayak Godse. He openly accused the RSS of frittering away the Hindu energy. Despite great respect that the Sangh had for Veer Savarkar, on 8 April 1940, in Poona, the RSS head Bhaurao Deshmukh gave a reply to the fringe elements in the Hindu Maha Sabha:

First of all, I wish to tell the malicious minds that the RSS is neither a military force for the Hindus nor the military wing of the Hindu Mahasabha. The Sangh’s endeavor is to make the Hindus nationalists in the true sense...
It is interesting to note that though individual leaders of the Congress and Hindu Mahasabha praised the RSS for its discipline, the absence of untouchability and the services it rendered, both the organisations wanted the Sangh to be under their political control. When the RSS refused to play party, scouts for both the parties, the Indian National Congress and the Hindu Mahasabha accused the Sangh of being communal and anti-Hindu respectively.

Bose and Hedgewar
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Despite strict non-involvement of the RSS in political movements directly, the Sangh was ready to help any political movement indirectly by supplying its cadre and allowing it to give their faculties and facilities, provided it worked for the cause of India’s welfare. Trailokyanath Chakravarty (1889–1970) was a Bengali revolutionary and freedom fighter. He met Dr Hedgewar who promised him that Sangh would provide him with cadre for the future revolution he was planning. (Satyavrata Ghosh, Remembering our revolutionaries, Marxist Study Forum, 1994 p.57) Sangh also helped Rajguru when the revolutionary lived as a fugitive.

Those in the Congress who could not rise above the pettiness of sectarian politics had passed the resolution in 1934 that their members could not join the RSS. Eminent historian Dr Kanchanmoy Mojumdar reveals that four years after the resolution of the Congress against the RSS, 'Bose reportedly sent emissaries to Hedgewar in 1939, perhaps seeking his help for an armed uprising.'

‘Modern Review’ (March 1941) records that ‘Dr Hedgewar died in Nagpur of high blood pressure at the age of 51 only. Just one day before his death Subhas Chandra Bose went to see him.’

‘Guruji’ Golwalkar was different from Dr Hedgewar in his approach to politics. Unlike Dr Hedgewar who came from the background of the Calcutta-based revolutionary group Anuseelan Samiti, Golwalkar had taken spiritual initiation from Swami Akandananda, a direct disciple of Sri Ramakrishna. Swami Akandananda was known for his humanitarian services.

‘Guruji’ Golwalkar’s Guru (right) was a direct disciple of Sri Ramakrishna. He was moved by the condition of a Muslim girl in famine and decided to serve humanity in that very village, suspending the pilgrimage he was undertaking.
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Golwalkar shunned politics. He was more into organisation building. This was the time when politics too had changed in the national arena. The threat of Partition had become very real. Along with the ‘Quit India’ movement, the fate of Hindus and Sikhs in the provinces of Western Punjab and Eastern Bengal, was becoming worrisome.

In the eventuality of Partition, towards which the events were fast gravitating despite the bravado and empty sentimental rhetoric of Congress leaders, the Hindus and Sikhs in Western Punjab, as well as Hindus and Buddhist tribes in East Bengal needed to be protected and safeguarded. So, Guruji Golwalkar felt the need to spread and strengthen the organisation. As the RSS baiters never tire of repeating, 'Anderson and Damle point out that Golwalkar believed that the British should not be given any excuse to ban the RSS.'

The old media in its new online webzines recycle the statement of Guruji Golwalkar regarding the 1942 movement. The writer of the latest piece in The Wire quotes:

“In 1942 also there was a strong sentiment in the hearts of many…. Sangh is an organisation of inactive persons, their talks are useless, not only outsiders but also many of our volunteers did talk like this. They were greatly disgusted too.”
But the quote leaves out two important sentences: “At that time too, the routine work of the Sangh continued. Sangh decided not to do anything directly.” The operational term here is that the Sangh decided not to do anything directly. The British Intelligence reports did say that they could not find any evidence to connect RSS as an organisation with the 1942 uprising. Nevertheless, the police did record many anti-British speeches made at the RSS training camps during the same period.

The British Intelligence reported that on 27 April 1942, at the training camp of the RSS at Pune ‘Golwalkar condemned those who were selfishly helping the British Government.’ On 28 April 1942, he declared that the Sangh has resolved to do its duty even if the whole world goes against it and impressed on the volunteers that they must be ready to sacrifice their lives for the cause of the country. (No.D. Home Pol. (Intelligence) Section F. No. 28 Pol).

Another report of the Home Department, Pol. F. No. 28/3/43-Pol (I) shows the anti-British nature prevailing at the RSS camp at Jubbalpore where a speaker proclaimed that the aim of the Sangh was to drive the British out of India and the sentiment was repeated by other speakers.

Achyut Patwardan, Nana Patil and Aruna Asaf Ali were some of the prominent freedom fighters of Quit India Movement who stayed in the houses of important RSS leaders during their struggle.
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Many freedom fighters received vital assistance from the RSS. Aruna Asaf Ali took asylum in the house of Lala Hans Raj Gupta, and Nana Patil was protected by Pandit Damodar Satavalekar and Sane Guruji stayed with Bhausaheb Deshmukh and Babasaheb Apte.

On 16 August 1942, at Chimur in Maharashtra, many RSS workers participated directly in a Quit India agitation which resulted in a brutal suppression by the British. Dada Naik, who was also the head of the Chimur RSS branch, was sentenced to death by the British. The Hindu Mahasabha leader Dr N B Khare took up his case with the authorities. Ramdas Rampure, another RSS cadre, was shot dead by the British.

Confidential reports blamed two persons for these uprisings. One was Dada Naik who, the report said, was 'was largely behind the recent disturbances' and the other was Sant Tukdoji Maharaj, who was closely associated with the RSS, and was suspected to have been involved in disturbances at Chimur. Later Sant Tukdoji Maharaj became one of the co-founders of the Vishva Hindu Parishad (VHP).

Sant Tukdoji Maharaj (right) is seen here with Sant Gaadge Maharaj. Both were fierce social reformers. Tukodji Maharaj was associated with the RSS and was targeted by the British. He sang not only about the Divine and freedom. He also sang Bhajans on the need for hygiene and the need for toilets.
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That Guruji Golwalkar did not blame the British overtly for India’s downfall is another canard spread by the old media. In fact, throughout his term as the head of the RSS, he took extraordinary care not to blame external agencies for any of the problems of Hindu society and also the Sangh. For example, in the case of religious conversions, he forbade his followers to put the blame on Christians and Muslims. In this context he stated:

Many workers appear to take delight in blaming others for all ills. Some may put the blame on the political perversities, others on the aggressive activities of the Christians or Muslims and such other faiths. Let our workers keep their minds free from such tendencies and work for our people and our Dharma in the right spirit, lend a helping hand to all our brethren who need help and strive to relieve distress wherever we see it. [Bunch of Thoughts, p.277]
When the ban on RSS could not be legally sustained by the Nehru government and was lifted, Guruji said to the cadre, who uttered intemperate words about Nehru, thus:
Do not let your minds be overcome with bitterness for those who, you feel, have done injustice to you. If the teeth were to bite the tongue do we pull out the teeth? Even those who have done injustice to us are our own people. So we must forget and forgive.

: ‘Guruji’ Golwalkar with Ram Manohar Lohia: Photo courtesy Tapan Gosh.
‘Guruji’ Golwalkar with Sant Tukdoji Maharaj during the founding of the VHP
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The Wire’s article associates this view of Guruji Golwalkar with the Bengal famine. Here it should be remembered that during the Bengal famine it was Dr Shyamaprasad Mukherjee, a Hindu Mahasabha leader, closer to the RSS than others, who was instrumental in fighting the famine through relief centres. Madhusree Mukerjee had brought to light the agony Shyamprasad Mukherjee felt and the service he rendered during the famine in her classic ‘Churchill’s Secret War’ (Tranquebar, 2010). British historian James Hartfield points out that Mukherjee called on the cultivators not to sell to government agents, saying 'the bureaucracy has taken away the food for the army and for exports'. He also points out that many of Bose supporters worked in the relief centres run by Shyamaprasad Mukherjee.

His magnanimity and ability to rise above the partisan interests reached a new height when during the Chinese aggression, he declared that in that hour of crisis instead of criticising we should stand with the government. ‘We are a hundred and five more’, he quoted Mahabharata. The stopping of a serial which bitterly attacked Nehru’s blunders on the Chinese aggression, in the RSS magazine ‘Organiser’, made Sitaram Goel, a great intellectual and a fearless historian, a lifelong bitter critic of the Sangh.

However, the services which the RSS rendered to the Indian army, made Nehru revise his own views of the RSS. The Prime Minister who had declared that he would not give even a single inch of land for their flag in the country now invited RSS to participate in the Republic day parade.

swarajya%2F2017-04%2Fd3ebd543-7704-427b-b999-55634c0c902b%2Frss_nehru_guruji.jpg

References:

-Dina Nath Mishra, RSS: Myth and Reality, Vikas Publishing House, 1980
-Kavita Narawane, The Great Betrayal, 1966-1977, Popular Prakashan, 1980
-C.P.Bhishikar, Shri Guruji, Pioneer of a new era, Sahitya Sindhu Prakashana, Bangalore, 1999
-Kanchanmoy Mojumdar, Saffron versus green: communal politics in the Central --Provinces and Berar, 1919-1947, Manohar, 2003
-James Heartfield, Unpatriotic History of the Second World War , London, Zer0 Books, 2012
-Rakesh Sinha, Builders of Modern India: Dr. Keshav Baliram Hedgewar, Publications Division, 2015
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The poster is a mujaheed and a true Muslim. I truly respect him for that. He hates Hinduism and makes it plain. I value honesty. Not hypocrisy.
Also a lot of what he posts is apt.

Besides, I don't think India actually 'won' independence. The US won it from the British. The Russian Revolution overthrew the Tsars. What happened here was a 'Transfer of Power'. Which is a tragedy. The ghosts of that event (and the Partition that followed it) continues (and will continue) to haunt us in the future.
Terror manual "Bukhari"? I guess you misspelled it. The correct spelling is Gita(Where a kleptomaniac teaches how to kill one's own cousins and ravage the country)
May be @nair and @scorpionx can explain this phenomenon better with proper parallels in history. :D
 
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The poster is a mujaheed and a true Muslim. I truly respect him for that. He hates Hinduism and makes it plain. I value honesty. Not hypocrisy.
Also a lot of what he posts is apt.
There must be some confusion, I am not mujahind, I am The Showstopper. And I do hate Sanghi filth and I am very honest about it:enjoy:

May be @nair and @scorpionx can explain this phenomenon better with proper parallels in history. :D
When did you start needing explanation? I guess you are quite capable of semantics and "history". No?
 
That is not true.

A LARGE number of Nazi gauletiers actually killed themselves along with their whole families. Many escaped as well.

Besides there can be no parallels between Hindu leaders and Nazis either.

Out of 44, ONLY 13 committed suicide and not all those who took their own lives with their own families were fanatical Nazis and few took their own lives in captivity (does not count anyway, they would have been executed by the allies within few days). And when you say 'many escaped as well', that actually describes their very own cowardice and moral duplicity, when they forced their own civilians to stay and face rape,murder and plunder by the Red Army .
 
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You can take a bhakt out of shit,but you cannot take shit out of a bhakt's brain

Andh bhakti in any form or shape stops one from thinking rationally, be it toward God(s) or a perceived demigod like Modi. There's no point arguing with these bhakts, some of them will come out of it once their "weed energy" runs out, some of them won't. They have become such slaves that even 60+ dead kids can't make them open their eyes. They're still searching for ways to defend their dear leaders and pin it on someone else. There is no immediate cure for this disease, only time and self-realization can cure them.
 
The most fanatic Nazi Gaultiers, who prescribed shoot at sight any civilian who would attempt evacuation in the face of a Russian onslaught, were the first ones to flee their cities. Radical nationalists have often failed to comply their own prescriptions. Nothing new in it.

WE get it ,

BJP = Nazi
Modi = Hitler

:lol: .......... :lol: ............:lol:


Godwin's law
is an Internet adage that asserts that "As an online discussion grows longer, the ... is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned Hitler has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress. ... argument as hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually appropriate.
 
WE get it ,

BJP = Nazi
Modi = Hitler

:lol: .......... :lol: ............:lol:


Godwin's law
is an Internet adage that asserts that "As an online discussion grows longer, the ... is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned Hitler has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress. ... argument as hyperbole when the comparisons made by the argument are actually appropriate.
You got it wrong.
 
So who were you comparing the "Nazi Gaultiers" with ? :cheesy:
Dimwits who impose rules on others but can't follow themselves. Includes Nazis, Fascists, Stalinist, Maoists etc etc.
 

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