Sing Vande Mataram or quit India: BJP to Muslim corporators

[Hindustani78]

why do they need to sing.. when it is not mandatory.. some jacks are waiting for opportunity here..

Singing of Vande Mataram real meaning is unity of Indians irrespective of thier religion.

Fakir Sanyassi rebellion . Talwars, Horses and pan

 

[danger007]

Singing of Vande Mataram real meaning is unity of Indians irrespective of thier religion.

Fakir Sanyassi rebellion . Talwars, Horses and pan

my point is why do you or me to sing, when someone force you. I sing it in my school days. why someone has to force others...

 

[Hindustani78]

my point is why do you or me to sing, when someone force you. I sing it in my school days. why someone has to force others...

Here its more about the real unity which comes from hearts.

 

[danger007]

Here its more about the real unity which comes from hearts.

Unity me. in what? if they don't respect to our national anthem or song. jail them, who the hell are these guys to say sing or go to pak . this is become fashion to some guys. play politics in the name of patriotism.

 

[adil_minhas]

Extremely sad and painful to see, Indian muslim looks rudderless, leaderless. All these topi drama jokers Owaisis and Azam Khans are self-serving opportunists.

170-180+ million muslims is not a 'community', equivalent or more than the populations of France, Germany and Spain combined. Its a nation. Same issues, same events being repeated on a cycle with same intentions as 1937-1939.
The more I read about the systematic persecution of muslims in india today, I went back to re-read the Pirpur Report (1939) on the Congress rule 1937-39, same things same issues and in most places more worse conditions than at that time
"I have declared on numerous occasions that we Mussalmans are a nation [not a community or minority] but when in my letter to Mr. Gandhi recently I made this statement, he said all his hopes on Hindu-Muslim Unity had been dashed.The question is what are the hopes of Mr. Gandhi and what does he mean by Hindu-Muslim Unity? Mr. Gandhi's hope is to subjugate and vassalise the Muslims under a Hindu raj. I have resisted it with all the power at any commandand, therefore, I am condemned as the worst Mussalman in the country........ It was no use depending upon anybody. We must depend upon ourselves... I appeal to you to put your shoulders together and work with the Muslim League. Stand firm as one solid block of steel, go on organizing our people, training them, disciplining them. They are with us..... Organize the muslims, bring them all together, train them, drill them, and make of them one of the most wonderful political army that india has ever seen and we will soon reach the goal of freedom. " M.A. Jinnah, Aligarh March 6 1940

Bro what you say would surely have been true if all Hindus were bad.

They are not.

And hence while to an extent we ARE a nation within a nation, we live together and pull together.

Which is why you see me so pissed off at ugly dark puny dancing pustules.

Mob mentality. Cowards face to face, one on one. Trying to break my country.

Cheers.

my point is why do you or me to sing, when someone force you. I sing it in my school days. why someone has to force others...

Exactly.

 

[ThinkLogically]

Unity me. in what? if they don't respect to our national anthem or song. jail them, who the hell are these guys to say sing or go to pak . this is become fashion to some guys. play politics in the name of patriotism.

You are actually correct and incorrect.
Correct: It is enough to pay respect to the song. Respect is all we need.

InCorrect: Not Singing has nowadays morphed into a way to show disrespect. Those who disrespect our National Symbols conveniently hide behind the Freedom of Expression and the idea that not singing does not mean they disrespect.

How do we weed out those disrespecting our symbols? Simple ask them to sing. Is singing such a harassment? It is certainly not a harassment for those who respect our national values.

We have to weed out these leaches soon before they grow in to a bigger Hydra capable of destroying our nation.

There is absolutely no difference between the British and those purposefully disliking our National Symbols.

 

[danger007]

You are actually correct and incorrect.
Correct: It is enough to pay respect to the song. Respect is all we need.

InCorrect: Not Singing has nowadays morphed into a way to show disrespect. Those who disrespect our National Symbols conveniently hide behind the Freedom of Expression and the idea that not singing does not mean they disrespect.

How do we weed out those disrespecting our symbols? Simple ask them to sing. Is singing such a harassment? It is certainly not a harassment for those who respect our national values.

We have to weed out these leaches soon before they grow in to a bigger Hydra capable of destroying our nation.

There is absolutely no difference between the British and those purposefully disliking our National Symbols.

A Home Ministry order in 2015 stated, “Whenever the Anthem is sung or played, the audience shall stand to attention. However, when in the course of a newsreel or documentary the Anthem is played as a part of the film, it is not expected of the audience to stand as standing is bound to interrupt the exhibition of the film and would create disorder and confusion rather than add to the dignity of the Anthem.”

And the law until now, specifically says that it has been left “to the good sense of the people” not to indulge in indiscriminate singing or playing of the national anthem. There are even specific rules as to whom the national anthem should be played for (the President and not the Prime Minister), and when people can indulge in mass singing of the anthem.

While the application of the Supreme Court order and the penalties for its violation are not clear, there are definitely precedents for “individually perceived notions of freedom”, which this court order says are overindulged, being upheld over nationalistic causes.


http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/Playing-of-the-national-anthem-and-laws/article16730624.ece


am asking authority of such persons who demand others to sing, whenever they want. do you know there is specific rules national anthem played for the President not even PM... first these guys are doing anti national activity using song for their personal vendetta. do they asked their own members to sing..

 

[Hindustani78]

Nahh, Hindu nationalism developed in Bengal in the late 19th and early 20th century, by Bengali figures like Swami Viveknanda etc. This was after the British used to look down upon and revile the " Bengali Babus" as they called them while praising the Punjabis, Pathans, Sikhs etc. so they developed Hindu nationalism with a focus on " Vedic or Aryan" identity. Ironically, the British used to call the people of the North-West as Aryan derived or something while the Bengalis/Central Indians/South Indians were called aboriginal Dravidian or whatever.

Actually its more before that when you talk about Hindu Nationalism . King Porus 's actual name is Purushottam ( some call him Parvateshwar ),the Puruvanshi king was even nationalist ,Samrat Ashoka was even nationalist, Shivaji Maharaj Bhonsle was even nationalist, Sadashivrao Bhau, Vishwasrao, Ibrahim Khan Gardi and many more were Hindu Nationalist.

Actually British never presented the real history of Indian Tribes where as the Arabs have always respected Indian Tribes. Fakir Sanyassi rebellion was the continued freedom struggle which was started by the Marathas, Hindustanis, Bengalis , Telugus, Tamilians and all the Indian tribes.

no my friend. your land is saudi arebia. this is Hindustan. land of Hindus.

The Arabs themselves call Indians as Hindi and to be frank they doesnt deny that the People of Indus Valley Civilization are the Native Indians and even the Prophet of Islam Prophet Muhammed PBUH has clearly talked about Mulk e Hind aka Indian Nation.

 

[xairhossi]

Actually its more before that when you talk about Hindu Nationalism . King Porus 's actual name is Purushottam ( some call him Parvateshwar ),the Puruvanshi king was even nationalist ,Samrat Ashoka was even nationalist, Shivaji Maharaj Bhonsle was even nationalist, Sadashivrao Bhau, Vishwasrao, Ibrahim Khan Gardi and many more were Hindu Nationalist.
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Porus' real name is not known, no authentic source says "purushottam'' or anything, we only have Greek sources with the Hellenized form of his name. Rest is BS, none of these were 'Hindu nationalist' as such a thing didn't exist until created by Swami Viveknanda, the insecure Bengali who wanted to be a Vedic Aryan warrior

 

[Hindustani78]

Unity me. in what? if they don't respect to our national anthem or song. jail them, who the hell are these guys to say sing or go to pak . this is become fashion to some guys. play politics in the name of patriotism.

I think here its more to do with national security and we need to change things on ground because of the terrorism which we are facing since decades . India's Manned Mission and national soveriginity is way more important for patriot Indians .

Ab yeh Free ki Azaadi tou nahi hain.

 

[danger007]

I think here its more to do with national security and we need to change things on ground because of the terrorism which we are facing since decades . India's Manned Mission and national soveriginity is way more important for patriot Indians .

Ab yeh Free ki Azaadi tou nahi hain.

Why to force particular community or person to sing... If someone sing Vandemataram does that make him more patriot.. How can you measure someone patriotism...let's say you are in Restaurant, i come there and sing right next to you. I do that again again... will you stand with me and sing repeatedly?

 

[Hindustani78]

Porus' real name is not known, no authentic source says "purushottam'' or anything, we only have Greek sources with the Hellenized form of his name. Rest is BS, none of these were 'Hindu nationalist' as such a thing didn't exist until created by Swami Viveknanda, the insecure Bengali who wanted to be a Vedic Aryan warrior

Actually his real name is known and its seems very strange to me that we have to keep on explaining our history to the British and EU Colonists. Who have a very wrong history when it comes to Indians, Arabs, Africans and Turks.

Why to force particular community or person to sing... If someone sing Vandemataram does that make him more patriot.. How can you measure someone patriotism...let's say you are in Restaurant, i come there and sing right next to you. I do that again again... will you stand with me and sing repeatedly?

As i have explained you even earlier . Vande mataram is unity among Hindus and Muslims of India on Sub Continent level and Unity among Arabs and Indians on regional and International level.

 

[hussain0216]

Actually his real name is known and its seems very strange to me that we have to keep on explaining our history to the British and EU Colonists. Who have a very wrong history when it comes to Indians, Arabs, Africans and Turks.

As i have explained you even earlier . Vande mataram is unity among Hindus and Muslims of India on Sub Continent level and Unity among Arabs and Indians on regional and International level.

How can there be unity with idolaters whilst singing a haram song??

 

[AKD]

How can there be unity with idolaters whilst singing a haram song??

If you can't sing the national anthem or song then its better to leave the country

 

[hussain0216]

If you can't sing the national anthem or song then its better to leave the country

Its their country, they live their, they were born there, they will marry and die there.

They pay taxes and own their homes and land


Singing a haram song is intolerable

They need to take their collective 200 million population and request a seperation with an appropriate part of india carved out so they can live without this nonsense of beef, haram songs, yogis and hindutvas