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Everyone including Pakistan forced India to accept conditions for Masood listing as a terrorist

Indians tou aisay uchhal rahay hain jaisay Kashmir ki tehreek khatam hogaee ho.. loll..

Masood Azhar has already completed what he desired in his life.. Kashmiri freedom struggle is standing on its own.. the guy who sent 44 terrorists in Pulwama to hell was a local kashmiri.. no link to any Pakistani organization has been proved.

I say put the name of 10 more Pakistanis in the terror list, the struggle will continue, and if there is a need, we will support it again.. Indians may find new organizations, new individuals working in the cause of kashmir freedom struggle.

Masood Azhar's listing hasn't brought a slightest of the change in the situation.. He will not be handed over to any country, he will not be tried in Pakistan or abroad in his presence.. he will not be linked with Pulawama and other similar successful attacks on Indian terrorist army..
 
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Indians tou aisay uchhal rahay hain jaisay Kashmir ki tehreek khatam hogaee ho.. loll..

Masood Azhar has already completed what he desired in his life.. Kashmiri freedom struggle is standing on its own.. the guy who sent 44 terrorists in Pulwama to hell was a local kashmiri.. no link to any Pakistani organization has been proved.

I say put the name of 10 more Pakistanis in the terror list, the struggle will continue, and if there is a need, we will support it again.. Indians may find new organizations, new individuals working in the cause of kashmir freedom struggle.

Masood Azhar's listing hasn't brought a slightest of the change in the situation.. He will not be handed over to any country, he will not be tried in Pakistan or abroad in his presence.. he will not be linked with Pulawama and other similar successful attacks on Indian terrorist army..

Indians and specially their media are so brainwashed that they genuinely believe in Modi and fail to see that the Kashmiri freedom struggle is indigenous. According to them Pakistan is the single cause of revolt in Kashmir. Soon it will dawn to them that a single or a few icons are not responsible for Kashmir, it's the whole population that hates India and hindu opression.
India gave written assurances to China and USA and there''s no going back. They will be forced to abandon Iran or atleast cut the oil imports to a a minimum and keep silent on BRI/CPEC from now on. Their silence will be louder than words this time. :agree:
 
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Indians and specially their media are so brainwashed that they genuinely believe in Modi and fail to see that the Kashmiri freedom struggle is indigenous. According to them Pakistan is the single cause of revolt in Kashmir. Soon it will dawn to them that a single or a few icons are not responsible for Kashmir, it's the whole population that hates India and hindu opression.
India gave written assurances to China and USA and there''s no going back. They will be forced to abandon Iran or atleast cut the oil imports to a a minimum and keep silent on BRI/CPEC from now on. Thei silence will be louder than words this time. :agree:


Forget about CPEC and Iran, I am amazed to see the responses of Indians here on PDF.. they are talking like LoC has been converted into international border, or Masood's listing will end the Kashmiri struggle, or pata nahi kia kia..
 
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Forget about CPEC and Iran, I am amazed to see the responses of Indians here on PDF.. they are talking like LoC has been converted into international border, or Masood's listing will end the Kashmiri struggle, or pata nahi kia kia..
It's not their fault Sir. They are delusional by their DNA. The few who realise the defeat or humiliation supress their pain by preeching victory in every single defeat or failure. And they are the ones who keep wandering like zombies here on PDF. Go easy on them, they are in pain. :agree:
 
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More than welcome.
But let suppose Pakistan is blacklisted then, who will stop more than 50000 mujahideen who can't cross due to ban by Pakistan as international obligation to cross LOC? World would lose even the last pressure tactic in there hand.

As long as the so called Mujahideen are coming through Pakistan to India, I guess they are most Welcome. LOL :lol::lol::lol:
 
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But the fact remains that half of the world's proclaimed terrorists are in Pakistan. How will this look in July's FATF meeting , whichever way you couch it ?
Bad. But our ummah lovers can have orgasms for finally achieving their goal. Well partly. We still need to poke the Chinese over our brother Muslims in Ughuristan. Then when Chinese also join the long like of Americans, europeans, Israeli's, Indians we can get good fcuking. That should deliver our ummahs to heaven.

Kashmir is a forgotten cause .The day it turned Islamic and the day 9/11 happened , Kashmir fell out of Pakistan's lap. Compare this to 25 years ago , maamu , when Robin Rachel a mere asst secretary of state humiliated the Indian Home minister , insisted on the establishment of an independent human rights body and the Hurriyat. The height of Pakistan's achievement in Afghanistan under Shaheed Mohtarma Bibi.
You said it better then I could. Every Pakistani should read this and face reality of how we lost Kashmir.
 
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Why then is he called a terrorist.
The real terrorist here is the Pakistani deep state
 
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Exactly, we got what we wanted. Deletion of one word here or there doesn't make a difference. The end result is the same - A Pakistani citizen declared as an international terrorist.

sympathizer, not linked to any terror activities

Unlike your PM who was once declared a terrorist by US

Why then is he called a terrorist.
The real terrorist here is the Pakistani deep state

why was Modi declared a terrorist by US, he now heads a state LOL
 
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on the whole Chummah gang well good news most are not in the Govt or just diaspora freaks or uncles they losing relevancy day by day good if they care so much for Syrians and Uyghurs then can go on their own don't drag Pakistanis and the state to this

So much hate, get a hold of yourself.

Syria and Uyghurs are a whole different issue.

Muslim Ummah is a teaching of Muhammad saws, and it is the basis of Allama Iqbal’s concept of Islamic Renaissance to bring the Ummah back to what it was.

You’re whole society is deeply religious and loves Islam as a religion, how would you try to divorce our nation from our faith.

Anyone who would try would be a seen as an enemy of Pakistan by our people.

What's wrong with you? In your hate for Arabs why are you risking your Iman?
It's not their's, your's or mine ummah, It's "Ummat-Nabvi"

Delete your comment and repent.

Just leave it brother.

Kashmir is a forgotten cause .The day it turned Islamic and the day 9/11 happened , Kashmir fell out of Pakistan's lap.

To Kashmiris, there is no relation to Pakistan except through religion. I cannot believe you people are so deluded.

Secular Kashmiri nationalists want a completely independent Kashmir, which has nothing to do with Pakistan and India.

Alhamdulilah because of Syed Ali Shah Geelani and Burhan Wani, Religious Pro-Pakistani separatists are the majority again.
 
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Quite surprised to find Pakistani conditions were that lame. Consider this;

De-escalate the situation:
This is not a time-bound demand. India can deescalate this quarter of the year and escalate back next. A better way to frame this condition would be when you include a dually measurable criteria; "action criteria" as well as "time criteria", like zero border violation for the next 5 years. If this condition is as simple as it is mentioned, Pakistan has lost an opportunity.

Also don't pass favours to India in advance. India is not a trustworthy state and they have violated agreements from blocking Pakistan's water to refusing to play cricket. Don't credit India in advance, they are known to break their agreements at will. So if agreement was 5 years of peace, offer the the favour (inclusion of Masood Azhar's name in UN list) mid-way, after 2.5 years of "witnessing compliance by India" and then credit them 2.5 year s in good faith. If India fails to act, you don't have to give them what they want.

Start bilateral dialogue: this condition is $hit. Your insistence on dialogue is lame - and no dialogue will be successful if there is no compulsion for it on both sides. India doesn't have a reason to start dialogue and even if does, it can walk away from them whenever it wants. Understand Pakistan and India has an "affordance asymmetry" here. India can afford to continue to do whatever it is doing and unless it becomes painful for it, it wouldn't consider dialogue. India is a fascist mindset that doesn't believe in "win-win" or "live-and-let-live" and it will not make any dialogue successful because you want so.

Don't include Azhar with Pulwama: A sensible demand but this is not a compromise by India. They had no evidence to implicate Masood Azhar in Pulwama anyway. No one from JuD or Pakistan took responsibility, crossed into India, communicated or escaped. These self-admissions in unknown videos, filmed at unknown locations are not acceptable anywhere in the world. Otherwise why do you think India backtracked on it?

Don't push for more listings of individuals: What a lame request this is. Its like asking "don't slap me anymore please" - and this too is without a timeframe (or any measurable success criteria) and India can stop asking for more individuals this quarter and go back to its "randi rona" next quarter. What is the gain for Pakistan here?

Stop violence in Kashmir: This is a condition to make Pakistanis stupid. Indians would've had a big laugh and merely accepted this one at least. Again a condition without a time-frame or a measurable criteria of compliance on part of India so India must had agreed to this condition more than others.

Despite what others way, I want to congratulate Indians for getting something in exchange of nothing. What has India given up in return of Masood Azhar....? Some blames and allegations which it had cooked/fabricated anyway? How long would it take to cook new ones - or even go back to previous blames?. Who's going to block it from doing what it has been doing since decades. Your expectation that India won't blame anymore - is not going to work.
 
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It was just our failure and we should accept it instead of doing aen baen shaen and trying to justify it to ourselves. China fckd up everything through lifting off their objection. That's all.

We've received far more damage for getting Masood into Terror list than we can ever get benefited through the so-called demands we made to India as you mentioned.

India has the benefit of being the illegitimate donkey of the Americans which gets them everything done. They don't even have the right to celebrate.

Hi, China has held the name Masood out of the blacklist for ten years and after all we are not your baby sitters! Pak government recently arrested many JeM members and two close aides of Masood. You should have got the signal!
 
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sympathizer, not linked to any terror activities

Unlike your PM who was once declared a terrorist by US

Masood Azhar has been declared a terrorist, not sympathiser. Modi was never declared a terrorist by USA. Not officially at least.
 
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sympathizer, not linked to any terror activities

Unlike your PM who was once declared a terrorist by US



why was Modi declared a terrorist by US, he now heads a state LOL
When where...
 
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