Erdogan says misquoted on warships: Not sending any

[ovarel]

If we are going to see what the court says,then you should have not post non-sense in the first place.

Whatever.

Its obvious that the world including you state are fed up with the israeli lies and are not going to support Israel blindly.

Its better Israel compromise and act as a sober member of the international community.

 

[FaujHistorian]

9 turks were killed in international waters by israel, maybe thats the reason?

Those 9 turks were Shaheed. Weren't they? You should be happy they went to heaven.


peace.

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I see them as palestinian territorial waters ....

You see the Pals territorial waters?? really???

Just like Sara Palin sees Russia from her backyard?

Peace.

 

[Raja.Pakistani]

Those 9 turks were Shaheed. Weren't they? You should be happy th[/SIZE]

dude when you are going to change your fake flags

 

[p4kistan]

Those 9 turks were Shaheed. Weren't they? You should be happy they went to heaven.


peace.

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You see the Pals territorial waters?? really???

Just like Sara Palin sees Russia from her backyard?

Peace.

Listen you idiot if you have nothing constructive to say jog on. PEACE

@ Thomas you can go on talking about international law when it is in the interest of the zionists but i would like to state that the zionist are also in breach of various international law e.g. the settlement issues etc would you care to mention these.

In this day and age as i said to hell with the UN and international law, zionist have no regard for it, the US is a complete hypocrite as are various political entities in muslim nations, everyone is selecting those laws that favour them and try to play down those that they are in breach of

 

[Thomas]

Listen you idiot if you have nothing constructive to say jog on. PEACE

@ Thomas you can go on talking about international law when it is in the interest of the zionists but i would like to state that the zionist are also in breach of various international law e.g. the settlement issues etc would you care to mention these.

In this day and age as i said to hell with the UN and international law, zionist have no regard for it, the US is a complete hypocrite as are various political entities in muslim nations, everyone is selecting those laws that favour them and try to play down those that they are in breach of

open up a seperate thread and state your case quoting the laws in question and I may. This thread however is about the naval blockade. And your attempt to deflect attention away from your failed arguement is plain for all to see.

 

[p4kistan]

open up a seperate thread and state your case quoting the laws in question and I may. This thread however is about the naval blockade. And your attempt to deflect attention away from your failed arguement is plain for all to see.

I'm not opening another thread you tried being the zionist proponent by stating they are not violating international law yet when i told you of an area where they are breaking international law you simply stated the above.

In fact it is you that is attempting to deflect the attention away from breach of international law on part of the zionists. You can't pick and choose what international law to comply with and which not to comply with. Don't use international law if you're hypocrites.

Just to show how weak you argument is and that i have not failed i will give you a brief description and link, and reply to this issue in this thread all issues are interlinked in this conflict blockades/setllements etc. Figures may have changed:

Israeli Confiscation and Settlement on Palestinian Land

Since 1967, each Israeli government has invested significant resources in establishing and expanding settlements in the Occupied Territories. As a result of this policy, approximately 500,000 Israeli citizens now live on the settlements on the West Bank, including those established in East Jerusalem.

Israel currently has 124 Jewish-only settlements, 100 ‘outposts,’ and 12 ‘neighborhoods’ annexed to Jerusalem – all built on confiscated Palestinian land.

Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land.


“The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.”

- Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949

Source: According to B’Tselem's 2010 summary, there are 124 official Israeli settlements and 100 informal outposts, and 12 Jerusalem settlements on Palestinian land. Peace Now’s interactive settlement map shows the name, location, and population for each settlement and outpost on Palestinian territory, all of which are considered illegal under international law.

International humanitarian law prohibits [an] occupying power [from transferring] citizens from its own territory to the occupied territory (Fourth Geneva Convention, article 49). The Hague Regulations prohibit the occupying power [from undertaking] permanent changes in the occupied area, unless these are due to military needs in the narrow sense of the term, or unless they are undertaken for the benefit of the local population.

The establishment of the settlements leads to the violation of the rights of the Palestinians as enshrined in international human rights law. Among other violations, the settlements infringe on the rights to self-determination, equality, property, an adequate standard of living, and freedom of movement.

AS THIS HAS CLEARly SHOWN, MY ARGUMENT IS PLAIN FOR ALL TO SEE AND I HAVE NOT FAILED. IT IS IN FACT YOU THOMAS WHO IS TRYING TO DEFLECT ATTENTION AWAY FROM ZIONISTS BREACHING INTERNATIONAL LAW. I COULD GO ON ALL NIGHT WITH FURTHER INTERNATIONAL LAW VIOLATIONS BUT HAVE NO TIME FOR A ZIONIST SISSY.

 

[T-Rex]

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan's statement that Turkish warships would escort the next Gaza-bound aid flotillas spared a row in Israel and across the world. The remarks were perceived as particularly aggressive, creating a basis for further escalation in the deteriorating relations between Israel and Turkey.

Now it seems the Turks are attempting to soften the statement, claiming that Erdogan's words were translated in a way that distorts his original intention.

"Turkish warships, in the first place, are authorized to protect our ships that carry humanitarian aid to Gaza," Erdogan was quoted as saying this week. "From now on, we will not let these ships to be attacked by Israel, as what happened with the Freedom Flotilla.

According to official sources in Turkey, reporters artificially combined two different remarks made by the Turkish prime minister, creating one sentence perceived as a threat of a military clash in high seas.

The new version, sent to the media from Erdogan's office, attempts to clarify the statement.


"We stressed the principle that we will ensure the safe movement of Gaza's aid vessel," said a senior Turkish government source. "The eastern Mediterranean Sea is not Israel's private playground. As long as it avoids intervening in the freedom of movement in the region, we won't send any warships to escort the vessels."

The source dismissed the published quotes as a bad translation which failed to understand Erdogan's intention. "It appeared as if we were offering to have warships escort every aid vessel. This is not true. Turkey will defend the rights of its citizens only when Israel chooses to intervene and prevent free movement in international waters."

The diplomatic relations between Ankara and Jerusalem reached a new low last weekend, after Israel refused to apologize for the May 31, 2010 deadly IDF raid on a Gaza-Bound flotilla.

In response, Turkey expelled the Israeli ambassador and senior diplomats and said it would increase its Navy's activity in the eastern Mediterranean Sea and suspended all military trade ties between the two countries.

A false news, the source is missing, so it could not be verified.

 

[FaujHistorian]

.....i said to hell with the UN and international law, zionist have no regard for it,....

Yeap. And according to Jihadis and Islamists Zionists committed 9/11 atrocity too.

Constipated conspiracy theories will never end.

Settlements is an issue, but only for Palestinians. Let them resolve it with Israelis. What has Pakistan to do with someone else's problem.

We have our hands full with Islamists and Jihadists killing 1000s of our men, women, and children.


peace.

 

[FaujHistorian]

A false news, the source is missing, so it could not be verified.

Obviously it is a false news.,

Brother Erdi the Erdogan is in a boat at this moment, heading towards Gaza.

He will soon appear hand in hand, arm in arm, and leg in leg with Hamas president / PM and announce the arrival of Sultan XXX of neo-Ottomania empire. He will kick out all the despotic and non-despotic arab leaders and reestablish Khilafat-e-Usmania in Hijaz and everywhere.

Khilafat zinda bad, Naara-e-Takbeer.

Just wait for 16 hours please.

 

[T-Rex]

Obviously it is a false news.,

Brother Erdi the Erdogan is in a boat at this moment, heading towards Gaza.

He will soon appear hand in hand, arm in arm, and leg in leg with Hamas president / PM and announce the arrival of Sultan XXX of neo-Ottomania empire. He will kick out all the despotic and non-despotic arab leaders and reestablish Khilafat-e-Usmania in Hijaz and everywhere.

Khilafat zinda bad, Naara-e-Takbeer.

Just wait for 16 hours please.

You seem to have constipation problem? See a doctor.

 

[Thomas]

I'm not opening another thread you tried being the zionist proponent by stating they are not violating international law yet when i told you of an area where they are breaking international law you simply stated the above.

In fact it is you that is attempting to deflect the attention away from breach of international law on part of the zionists. You can't pick and choose what international law to comply with and which not to comply with. Don't use international law if you're hypocrites.

Just to show how weak you argument is and that i have not failed i will give you a brief description and link, and reply to this issue in this thread all issues are interlinked in this conflict blockades/setllements etc. Figures may have changed:

Israeli Confiscation and Settlement on Palestinian Land

Since 1967, each Israeli government has invested significant resources in establishing and expanding settlements in the Occupied Territories. As a result of this policy, approximately 500,000 Israeli citizens now live on the settlements on the West Bank, including those established in East Jerusalem.

Israel currently has 124 Jewish-only settlements, 100 ‘outposts,’ and 12 ‘neighborhoods’ annexed to Jerusalem – all built on confiscated Palestinian land.

Palestinians do not have any settlements on Israeli land.


“The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies.”

- Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention of 1949

Source: According to B’Tselem's 2010 summary, there are 124 official Israeli settlements and 100 informal outposts, and 12 Jerusalem settlements on Palestinian land. Peace Now’s interactive settlement map shows the name, location, and population for each settlement and outpost on Palestinian territory, all of which are considered illegal under international law.

International humanitarian law prohibits [an] occupying power [from transferring] citizens from its own territory to the occupied territory (Fourth Geneva Convention, article 49). The Hague Regulations prohibit the occupying power [from undertaking] permanent changes in the occupied area, unless these are due to military needs in the narrow sense of the term, or unless they are undertaken for the benefit of the local population.

The establishment of the settlements leads to the violation of the rights of the Palestinians as enshrined in international human rights law. Among other violations, the settlements infringe on the rights to self-determination, equality, property, an adequate standard of living, and freedom of movement.

AS THIS HAS CLEARly SHOWN, MY ARGUMENT IS PLAIN FOR ALL TO SEE AND I HAVE NOT FAILED. IT IS IN FACT YOU THOMAS WHO IS TRYING TO DEFLECT ATTENTION AWAY FROM ZIONISTS BREACHING INTERNATIONAL LAW. I COULD GO ON ALL NIGHT WITH FURTHER INTERNATIONAL LAW VIOLATIONS BUT HAVE NO TIME FOR A ZIONIST SISSY.

Sorry not taking your bait attempt. Move it to another thread so that you do not derail this thread. Or is that what your trying to do since your arguement on the blockade is failed?

 

[FaujHistorian]

Sorry not taking your bait attempt. Move it to another thread so that you do not derail this thread. Or is that what your trying to do since your arguement on the blockade is failed?

Islamists have no idea about the international laws, nor do they know much about Arab-Israeli conflict. No wonder there is so much hot air.

Peace.

 

[ares]

Flippin heck the flotilla wasn't travelling to provide aid to the citizens of tel aviv. As far as i understand the aid flotillas are trying to go to PALESTINIAN TERRITORIAL WATERS which sadly the murderer Israel currently controls, but this doesn't give them the right to go and attack PEACEFUL activists who i might add include jews. The activists reacted with bars in self defence, don't believe the BS zionist media propaganda.

Thomas is right as of now there is no such thing as a palastenian state and by extension no such thing as palestenian waters. So when when and if palesine becomes a country they will have their own narrow corridor of sovereign waters,connecting them to international waters, but as of now it is all Israeli waters and like it or not you will have to pass through them if you want to reach

 

[T-Rex]

Islamists have no idea about the international laws, nor do they know much about Arab-Israeli conflict. No wonder there is so much hot air.

Peace.

Yeah, only people like bush and blair and their disciples have a thorough knowledge of the international law.

 

[T-Rex]

Thomas is right as of now there is no such thing as a palastenian state and by extension no such thing as palestenian waters. So when when and if palesine becomes a country they will have their own narrow corridor of sovereign waters,connecting them to international waters, but as of now it is all Israeli waters and like it or not you will have to pass through them if you want to reach

Yeah, and the government of Palestine rules over israel, I suppose! Why is it that the indians on this forum are so eager to be zionists?