Enough is Enough

[RAMPAGE]

What else is needed to prove that you mentioned it is mandatory to implement Shariah. There are 72 school of thoughts, not 4 and an opinion or idea generated 100s of years after demise of Holy Prophet does not become part of Islam.

You are right.

Our example is Muhammad S.A and his hadith, not any imam. Not even the daughter of Rasulullah is above the laws set by Allah.

 

[AhsanAmin]

The subject of this thread was not Islamic government. But still I will say Islamic government which will be a theocratic state as Islam will be interpreted and enforced by mullahs and will be known to your later generations as a great crime to them if some of us ever succeeds in that.

If you are a Muslim, here you are as free to follow teachings of Islam as nowhere else in the world and this should be good enough.

 

[Panther 57]

You are right.

Our example is Muhammad S.A and his hadith, not any imam. Not even the daughter of Rasulullah is above the laws set by Allah.

Hence proved that Khilafat is not necessary for implementing Shariah.

 

[RAMPAGE]

Hence proved that Khilafat is not necessary for implementing Shariah.

I totally agree with you.

Nashta kar lai bhai aur meri original post dobara parh.

 

[AhsanAmin]

Our example is Muhammad S.A and his hadith, not any imam. Not even the daughter of Rasulullah is above the laws set by Allah.

Let us follow the spirit. No single individual should be above the law ever, in our country.

 

[M. Sarmad]

Our example is Muhammad S.A and his hadith,

Islamic History & Archaeology | Pakistan Defence

 

[Zarvan]

And we thought that TTP and Mullah`s Islam were the reasons behind all the bloodshed going on in Pakistan

Local tribes were living peacefully when Musharraf decided to be obedient pet slave of USA and attack tribals and bomb them and kill them and after suffering for 3 years they formed TTP to take revenge and since than we have forgotten the meaning of peace

 

[RAMPAGE]

Islamic History & Archaeology | Pakistan Defence

I well definitely read it. right now i'm watching this.

Pakistan aur Khilafat – Dr Israr AHMED

 

[M. Sarmad]

Local tribes were living peacefully when Musharraf decided to be obedient pet slave of USA and attack tribals and bomb them and kill them and after suffering for 3 years they formed TTP to take revenge and since than we have forgotten the meaning of peace

By bombing our mosques and killing our women and children they are taking revenge from whom ??
And If you think that killing of Pakistani civilians is justified because Americans have killed innocent tribals , Then drone attacks on their homes in retaliation are also justified ... But Islam (which you always talk about) does not allow killing civilians ... Mullahs are hypocrites !!

 

[Zarvan]

By bombing our mosques and killing our women and children they are taking revenge from whom ??
And If you think that killing of Pakistani civilians is justified because Americans have killed innocent tribals , Then drone attacks on their homes in retaliation are also justified ... But Islam (which you always talk about) does not allow killing civilians ... Mullahs are hypocrites !!

You killed their children and women now they are doing the same its tit for tat going on more to do with Pathan culture they have famous saying I took revenge in 100 years and I took it soon

 

[M. Sarmad]

You killed their children and women now they are doing the same its tit for tat going on more to do with Pathan culture they have famous saying I took revenge in 100 years and I took it soon

Wish we could ...... But we cant , as we are human beings , not Taliban or Mullah scum!!
And if tit for tat , then why cry after every drone attack???

 

[Zarvan]

Wish we could ...... But we cant , as we are human beings , not Taliban or Mullah scum!!
And if tit for tat , then why cry after every drone attack???

Your actions have killed thousands of their children women want to live in denial you are free to live but that is a fact and now they are doing same in return

 

[CrazyPaki]

Wish we could ...... But we cant , as we are human beings , not Taliban or Mullah scum!!
And if tit for tat , then why cry after every drone attack???

what would you suggest as a permanent solution ?

 

[Panther 57]

what would you suggest as a permanent solution ?

Permanent solution is very difficult.
1. As all foreigners to leave Pakistan within 15 days.
2. Do operation clean up for foreigners for three months and against those who have taken up arms against Pakistan. Any foreigner found after 15 days to be tried under espionage.
3. Those who retaliate against LEAs to be shot. Those arrested to be tried in Military summary courts.
4. Exemplary punishment to be executed publicly for those involved in terrorist activities.
5. The exercise should end in six months. After that foreigners allowed to visit Pakistan to go through strict scrutiny.
6. Embassies should be allowed to have only necessary staff correlated with visas issued per year.
7. Consulate buildings should not be allowed to go beyond certain limit.
8. Encroachment of public places by diplomats and consulates should not be allowed.
9. Diplomatic security allowed should be in side the allowed premises only.
10. Develop self esteem and discipline in civil armed forces on the pattern of Armed Forces.
11. Eliminate corruption to CBM in LEAs.
12. Political parties to disarm themselves.
13. Ban all sorts of flags by political, religious or nationalist parties. Only flag permitted should be or Pakistan or state authorised flags.
14. In one year Pakistan will be free of all terrorism.

 

[CrazyPaki]

maybe we should create a sticky on possible solutions
anyway
15) fatwas can only be made by the state
16) all religious school can only teach by following a certain curriculum
17) a big one should be Education becoming free, which comes under a long term solution
18) one of biggest fight against ideological war fare in the name of religion is teach the children quranic Arabic, this way the mullas loose their authority to rule by a certain sect and will empower the people to decide how they should follow islam