Enough is enough — Pakistan not happy with Afghan Taliban

[SQ8]

India will fund afghan taliban now you're saying?

India will do everything and anything it needs to for promoting the destruction of Pakistan and suffering for Pakistanis.

 

[Varunastra]

India will do everything and anything it needs to for promoting the destruction of Pakistan and suffering for Pakistanis.

How does that help India? An unstable and more radicalized Pakistan would breed more troubles for India, a stable and friendly neighbourhood is in our interest, just give up on Kashmir and let us live in peace. Help us to stabilize and deradicalize afghanistan and the whole region will prosper.

 

[SQ8]

How does that help India? An unstable and more radicalized Pakistan would breed more troubles for India, a stable and friendly neighbourhood is in our interest, just give up on Kashmir and let us live in peace. Help us to stabilize and deradicalize afghanistan and the whole region will prosper.

Absolutely not - a disintegrated Pakistan benefits India massively by pretty much ensuring that foreign powers take the nukes out with the remaining pieces ruled as fiefdoms more focused on animosity with each other than India

 

[VCheng]

India will do everything and anything it needs to for promoting the destruction of Pakistan and suffering for Pakistanis.

Or maybe India can be shown the advantages of peace to its West to enable it to concentrate elsewhere.

 

[SQ8]

Or maybe India can be shown the advantages of peace to its West to enable it to concentrate elsewhere.

I think there is enough water under that bridge to go back to when those conditions can be prevalent again. The current Indian regime and state apparatus has all been replaced with hawks for the near and possibly long term future.

 

[VCheng]

I think there is enough water under that bridge to go back to when those conditions can be prevalent again. The current Indian regime and state apparatus has all been replaced with hawks for the near and possibly long term future.

And yet there have been peace overtures from both sides lately, and things have been toned down on the LoC as a prelude.

 

[Varunastra]

Absolutely not - a disintegrated Pakistan benefits India massively by pretty much ensuring that foreign powers take the nukes out with the remaining pieces ruled as fiefdoms more focused on animosity with each other than India

A disintegrated Pakistan means that nukes might fall into the hands of local mullahs before foreign powers can take control. We'll have another taliban in our hands, this one with nukes and fighter aircrafts. No way india wants that.

 

[Tomcats]

And yet there have been peace overtures from both sides lately, and things have been toned down on the LoC as a prelude.

Which really shows how both sides needed a breather from the incessant fighting, both are stretched thin in their own ways.

 

[VCheng]

Which really shows how both sides needed a breather from the incessant fighting, both are stretched thin in their own ways.

The why and how does not matter as much as the resulting peace.

 

[Colonel_Hardstone]

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan started new efforts to convince Afghan Taliban for rejoining the peace process otherwise the Taliban may face some tough actions from Pakistan. Top Pakistani security officials have approached Afghan Taliban leadership in Doha and made it very clear to them that their refusal to participate in Istanbul Conference was a big blow to the Afghan Peace Process and if they will not show some flexibility they will face consequences.


A United States backed Afghan Peace conference set to be hosted in Istanbul by Turkey, Qatar and United Nations on April 24 was postponed over the non-participation of the Taliban. This conference was meant to fast track the peace process but new administration in Washington changed the withdrawal date of US troops from May 1 to September 11 2021. The Taliban rejected this new date and declared it violation of the peace agreement signed with Trump Administration. They refused to participate in Istanbul conference.

Last week foreign ministers of Turkey, Pakistan and Afghanistan met in Istanbul and they called on the Taliban to reaffirm their commitment to achieving a negotiated settlement for lasting peace in Afghanistan. It is learnt that a top Pakistani security official will meet Taliban leaders in Doha on April 28 (today) and will deliver an “enough is enough” message to them in very clear words. Pakistan and some other international stakeholders in Afghan peace process were trying to convince the Taliban to agree for joining an interim coalition government but they were reluctant to agree.

According to highly placed sources, Pakistani security agencies found some links between Afghan Taliban and groups related to Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP). A top source said “they are two faces of a same coin” but Afghan Taliban denied this allegation. They said it is not the first time that we may face heat from the security agencies. Senior Taliban leader Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar was arrested by Pakistani agencies and he was released in 2018. It was Mullah Baradar who led peace talks with the US in Doha. Two senior Taliban leaders Mullah Ubaidullah Akhund (former Afghan defense minister) and Ustad Yasir died in the custody of Pakistani security agencies between 2010 and 2012.

The Taliban made it very clear that they not only want withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan but they also want removal of their names from UN terrorist list and release of prisoners. Their inflexibility is no more acceptable to Pakistani officials who are dealing with the Taliban since long. A top Pakistani official said that it is easy to deal with Ashraf Ghani but very difficult to deal with the Taliban. The official made allegations on Afghan government for supporting the Pashtun Tahafuz Movement (PTM). Pakistani officials have conveyed their concerns to Ghani directly and after that the Afghan president never supported the PTM publically. Ghani also made some unannounced visits to Pakistan in recent past to bridge gap with Pakistani side.

It is learnt that India also tried to engage Afghan Taliban recently but their leaders avoided direct meetings with them. A senior Taliban source said that India is planning to send its troops to Afghanistan after the possible withdrawal of US troops. Taliban think that India started engagement with Pakistan recently just because India do not want Pakistan to object to its new role in Afghanistan. India wants that the Taliban should not attack its troops in Afghanistan not realising that the Taliban never accept any foreign troops in their country.

Enough is enough — Pakistan not happy with Afghan Taliban

ISLAMABAD: Pakistan started new efforts to convince Afghan Taliban for rejoining the peace process otherwise the Taliban may face some tough actions from Pakistan. Top Pakistani security officials...

www.thenews.com.pk

Taliban directly and unequivocally denying this news.

This thread now needs to be closed!

 

[mqur1963]

AT are going to be next rulers of Afghanistan. Pakistan already has little control over how things will unfold now in Afghanistan. Be nice to them than trying to micro managing them. They already dislike you. Don't make another unnecessary enemy. Don't over reach your leverage and goodwill.

pakistani govt is pupit of west so do most Pakistani and shoe shine boys of stupid Arabs magoraty ofpakis are currpt. who do you turst.under the nose of imran khan ns left pakistan..

 

[Kingslayerr]

It is obvious, Talibs are Terrorists, whatever they spawn into, TTP, AT, AQ, thrive through their poppy trade. Those who feed those snakes will eventually get bitten.

Sure whatever you say, just don't forget to send your forces. BTW i want to ask you on what criteria are you labeling talibans as terrorists?

 

[Chhatrapati]

Sure whatever you say, just don't forget to send your forces. BTW i want to ask you on what criteria are you labeling talibans as terrorists?

Why should we send forces to Afghanistan? It's a mess you're waiting to reap.
Any gun-wielding yahoos that are fighting against an internationally accepted state are and should be considered terrorists. Taliban will not stop fighting even if they do control the entire Afghanistan, their wishes and ideas change because it's created in such a way. It will become a menace to it's neighbours. With that, any economic development or connection to Central Asia BS you sell every now and then go to shit.

 

[Chhatrapati]

Absolutely not - a disintegrated Pakistan benefits India massively by pretty much ensuring that foreign powers take the nukes out with the remaining pieces ruled as fiefdoms more focused on animosity with each other than India

Be realistic. Pakistan offers zero opportunities for India disintegrated or intact. From economic to security.
Economic perspective, well, we know the situation of our trades, it is not that big with other neighbours either.

You're not some oil-rich country or has huge deposits of some minerals that India desperately wants. We are also not competing internationally apart from maybe a very few Agro goods we export.

What we don't understand is your idea of an imminent Indian invasion or India wanting Pakistan to be destroyed. At the end of the day, you're just another non-oil rich Islamic state with 220 million people with an almost similar economic situation to India. Invading it is pointless it will make us even poorer. If Pakistan disintegrates, in that case, what we may end up having is refugees like the last one in 71 neither good for India or the region as a whole.

 

[Tomcats]

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