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(bad language) tehes eno el markeba hat2ool hagibak hena ya khawal hahahahah

Hahahaha, b'toulo t'3ala hena ya'bn el labwa ashan tedeek 5azou2 f'teez abouk hahahaha look what you've done to me! :D

BTW, this is going to be a freaky scary navy yan7ar abyad:

- 1 FREMM Aquitaine
- 6 FREMM Bergamini
- 6 MEKO A200
- 4 Gowind Corvettes
That's 17 brand new stealth frigates and corvettes alone! Then there's:
- 4 Oliver Hazzard Perry class frigates
- 2 Knox class Frigates makes 23 total frigates
- 4 Ambassador MK III missile craft fast attack ships
- 2 Discubierta class corvettes
- 1 Pohang class corvette
- 1 P-32 Molniya-class missile craft
- 4 Romeo Class submarines
- 4 Type 209 Submarines (and we know they're negotiating for the Baracudas and Scorpenes)
- 2 Mistrals LHD Helicopter carriers
- Not even close to the complete list, either. Some of the new escort attack ships I forget what they're called, need to look into them some more. They were docked right behind the Bergamini FREMMs during the Badr (I think) exercise when Sisi and MBZ were on the Mistral watching it.

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There was an EAF F-16 patch AIM-120 missile mounted on it? Idk if it is true or I am hallucinating hahaha
Yes, I recall coming across a “detached” squadron patch that had an F-16 with AIM-120 on the wingtip, perhaps also had the term “upgrade” or some sort.
I’m guessing it belonged to F-16s deployed in airfields by the Libyan border, back in 2020.
 
Hahahaha, b'toulo t'3ala hena ya'bn el labwa ashan tedeek 5azou2 f'teez abouk hahahaha look what you've done to me! :D

BTW, this is going to be a freaky scary navy yan7ar abyad:

- 1 FREMM Aquitaine
- 6 FREMM Bergamini
- 6 MEKO A200 (
- 4 Gowind Corvettes
That's 17 brand new stealth frigates and corvettes alone! Then there's:
- 4 Oliver Hazzard Perry class frigates
- 2 Knox class Frigates makes 23 total frigates
- 4 Ambassador MK III missile craft fast attack ships
- 2 Discubierta class corvettes
- 1 Pohang class corvette
- 1 P-32 Molniya-class missile craft
- 4 Romeo Class submarines
- 4 Type 209 Submarines (and we know they're negotiating for the Baracudas and Scorpenes)
- 2 Mistrals LHD Helicopter carriers
- Not even close to the complete list, either. Some of the new escort attack ships I forget what they're called, need to look into them some more. They were docked right behind the Bergamini FREMMs during the Badr (I think) exercise when Sisi and MBZ were on the Mistral watching it.

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Plus the new indigenous OPV and corvettes. I hope we will build locally (by ToT or indigenous projects) their missiles and munitions.
 
Hey ya M3alem, you know what I was thinking that just popped into my mind while chomping about all this possible indigenous fighter program? When we always think about data sharing and real time ISR and AWE&C interoperability, that we automatically think about how they had to create their own networks like RISC & RISC2 and C4-1 or whatever, including using the Taba satellite and having this entire thing processed through a ground-based command and control center etc., which is all fine and dandy. But why isn't the option of introducing Link-16 or even Link-11 to the Russian platform not only an easier option, but a much faster and probably a better option.

Why is it that whenever this subject comes up, it's always about creating a whole knew massive and complicated network that might or might not operate in real time or is as effective as pure data-sharing linkage?

Hear me out for a minute and pls tell me what you think since you know a lot about this; if having data sharing in real time through Link-16 for the Rafales in the EAF (and supposedly it does exist in the block 52s F-16s only and not the block 40s but that's ok for now) and the linking is essentially equipping whatever aircraft with the MIDS-LVT/ LINK-16 terminals and associated equipment whatever those may be, IFF antennas/sensors, computer software & hardware etc. would be minimal. So why not create or purchase such terminals and all necessary packages from either Dassault or Leonardo or whomever and then install them in the RUSSIAN fighters?! Then you'll have the Rafales, the F-16s (including as many more block 40s that they would want hooked up), the MiG-29M/M2s, even Mirage 2Ks and Su-35SEs all operating in Link-16 within the EAF and its E-2C Hawkeyes? Not sure why this was never really considered as an option?

It would seem so much better than a much larger network that we're not really sure if it operates in real time AND, if it involves a ground-based command & control, what happens once they move out of range of said ground control command center? That is where direct linkage comes in much handier on top of being able to plug and play immediately whenever they not only acquire new aircraft like the possible Typhoons or MiG-35s, but also with UAE and Saudi fighters and their AWACs aircraft. Seems like the best option and not much that would stop it from happening aside from acquiring the necessary equipment, which I think they could easily do from the sources I mentioned. What think?
It is pretty complicated.. but not impossible..

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https://dl.icdst.org/pdfs/files/e90d37a9b93e2e607206320ea07d7ad2.pdf


Tactical data links in general..

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Russian (OSNOD)

"The system benefits from enhanced encryption protection and anti jamming features, and is critical to allowing the aircraft to function as part of a larger combat network and synergise its capabilities with those of other units from air defence and radar systems to accompanying drones and fighter jets."

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/a...d-data-link-and-secure-communications-systems

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In addition to the standard OSNOD data link.. the Su-57 would have an additional, less observable and more directional link..

https://www.defenseworld.net/2021/0...n-su-57-fighter-to-be-shown-at-maks-2021.html


I said not impossible and here is a good example:

“Link-17” – Pakistan’s homegrown data-link system

https://quwa.org/2016/04/05/link-17-pakistans-homegrown-data-link-system/

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I hope not that during a war enemy will jam the data link and destroy our connections between air planes then our aircrafts will blind and a sitting duck. Then we are fucked
 
I hope not that during a war enemy will jam the data link and destroy our connections between air planes then our aircrafts will blind and a sitting duck. Then we are fucked
These systems are redundant.. they have not just one backup but many.. so no risk if the jamming covers all possible wavelengths..
 
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According to Andrei Yelchaninov, first deputy head of the Russian Collegium of the Military Industry Committee.. Russia's United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) manufactures an unspecified number of Su-35 front-line aircraft for a "foreign customer"..

When asked by Interfax during an interview on June 10 whether the Su-35 made for a foreign customer would be transferred to the Russian Air Force, Yelchaninov said: “No, the planes will go to a foreign customer, they are made in a Certain modality, everything is fine, and the enterprise is working on the deal.”

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According to Andrei Yelchaninov, first deputy head of the Russian Collegium of the Military Industry Committee.. Russia's United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) manufactures an unspecified number of Su-35 front-line aircraft for a "foreign customer"..

When asked by Interfax during an interview on June 10 whether the Su-35 made for a foreign customer would be transferred to the Russian Air Force, Yelchaninov said: “No, the planes will go to a foreign customer, they are made in a Certain modality, everything is fine, and the enterprise is working on the deal.”

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So till now we will "receive" the SU-35.
 
So till now we will "receive" the SU-35.
i prefer those rather than relying on americans for such a role

Anyway have you heard of the transfer of one IRIS-T battery of ours to Ukraine? Apparently we are getting something that Germany cant let media know about so it must be big plus another battery instead of the one donated
 
i prefer those rather than relying on americans for such a role

Anyway have you heard of the transfer of one IRIS-T battery of ours to Ukraine? Apparently we are getting something that Germany cant let media know about so it must be big plus another battery instead of the one donated
First we must wait to see them if we will receive and the weapons that will be mounted on them
 
First we must wait to see them if we will receive and the weapons that will be mounted on them
I dont think you will be disappointed.



There will be cooperation with iraq in defence industry, it was not disclosed what will it be but iam guessing helping maintain and upgrade the abrams and ST-500 purchase and probably over hauling factories. Very great for the New Levant project
 
I dont think you will be disappointed.



There will be cooperation with iraq in defence industry, it was not disclosed what will it be but iam guessing helping maintain and upgrade the abrams and ST-500 purchase and probably over hauling factories. Very great for the New Levant project
Upgrading the Abrams I don't think so because USA doesn't want us to upgrade them. SU-35 + Rafale + EFT will be a deadly trios if we get all of them
 
Su-35 front-line aircraft for a "foreign customer"..

Let's hope this is the "same" original foreign customer...

“No, the planes will go to a foreign customer,

A new foreign customer? That could very well be what they're talking about the way they're wording that. Especially with the following quote.

they are made in a Certain modality, everything is fine, and the enterprise is working on the deal."
This is actually damning, bro. "Working on the deal"? The EAF deal was already worked on since 2016 and the only way they would be working on a "deal" with a "foreign customer" is if it's a new one who will take the aircraft off of the Russian's hands. Someone like Iran which has been rumored for a long time for this or even Algeria, who's also rumored to have put in an order for 14 Su-57s. That might be a bunch of hokus pokus, though. Do you have an Arabic version for this news, SC?
 

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