Egypt Sidelines Rafale Jets For SU-35s; Claims Only Russian Jets Can Match US/Israeli War Planes

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Yaa both Rafale and Sukhois have thr strong points but currently Rafale with meteor will bet first hit on Su-35... but can it survive F-35 most probably no

Meteor as similar specs with R-77-1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_(missile)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-77

 

[Tumba]

Meteor as similar specs with R-77-1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_(missile)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-77

Meteor is a good generation ahead of R-77-1 ... Indian Air Force would know they recently acquired both

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Meteor is a good generation ahead of R-77-1 ... Indian Air Force would know they recently acquired both

The specs are similar regardless of generation.

 

[The SC]

This is simply not true. For one thing, the Rafael's AESA radar is superior to the Su-35s Ibris-E PESA. All Russian fighters, including the Su-57, lack sufficient BVR capabilities. The Su-35 can definitely outperform the Rafael in WVR with its fancy thrust vectoring but that is about it.

Airborne IRBIS Radar

While lacking an APAR, the Su-35 radar system can detect targets at distances up to 400 kilometers, as well as tracking up to aerial targets and engage up to eight of these targets simultaneously.

Sukhkoi Su-35S has owes these capabilities to its new Irbis phased-array radar control system. The system was developed by Tikhomirov Instrument Engineering Research Institute, a KRET subsidiary, and is being manufactured by the Ryazan State Instrument Factory, another subsidiary of KRET.

The state-of-the-art system enables Sukhoi Su-35S to detect quickly and track simultaneously up to four ground targets or up to 30 airborne targets, as well as engaging up to eight airborne targets at the same time. Besides, the radar control system has the friend-or-foe identification capability for aerial and maritime objects, is capable of identifying the class and type of airborne targets and take aerial photos of the ground.

The system can be used in any weather at any time of the day, and remain effective in the face of interference, either natural or organized by the enemy electronic warfare systems.

An oscillator with peak power output of 20 kW used in the passive phased array radar makes Irbis the most powerful radar control system in the world.

This puts the Sukhoi Su-35S radar system on par with the best state-of-the-art international designs, and ahead for most US and European active and passive phased array radars.

https://rostec.ru/news/4514936/


Irbis-E (Snow Leopard)

Irbis-E development started in 2004 and the first radar prototype entered flight tests on board an Su-30M2 aircraft acting as a test bed in early 2007. The resulting radar system provides air-to-air, air-to-sea and air-to-ground (ground mapping, Doppler beam sharpening and Synthetic Aperture Radar modes) modes with improved performance in intense clutter (radar) environments compared to its predecessor, the Bars system. In addition, Irbis has been designed to detect low and super-low observable/stealth airborne threats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irbis-Ehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irbis-E

 

[Pandora]

There is nothing wrong with Russian flankers. Leave it to Indians to degrade perfectly good plane just bcz they lost due to their own incompetence. SU 35 is a beast and matches any Chinese or western jet out there.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

And, TurAF and PAF shoot the Russian jets down like flies any time of the day....

 

[HD Seeker-5000]

Egypt never sidelined the Rafale..there are at least 12 more to come if not 24..
Egypt procured both the Rafale and the SU-35 as high-end fighters and systems to counter the threat of the F-35 "procured" by Usrael..

Yaa i have been reading this speculation's in couple of places online yet i don't thing that these speculations are true. I don't think Egypt would sideline the Rafale, these are propably just incorrect roomers that some online community are trying to spread. They are both very different aircraft of different types. Beside the Rafale has a lot of multi role advantages as compared to other fighter of its roles.

 

[HD Seeker-5000]

The Rafale with the Meteor is about as good as it gets and not much out there to compete with that package, especially with SPECTRA in full mode. But your comment about Russian BVR hardly has any merits. The ERBIS-E with the RVV-SD is on par with the AIM-120C-7 and then there's a slew of missiles that are on the same range level as the AIM-120D like the R-37M which is actually more if I'm not mistaken and the R-27 in many of its forms is a super BVR missile. So the Russian systems can certainly carry their own.

You forgot to mention as well the future K-77 missile currently in development which is the new generation of the R-77.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

And, TurAF and PAF shoot the Russian jets down like flies any time of the day....

Speak it brother

 

[ARCH٤R]

Both are considered, the Su-35 is to replace the broken F-15 Program the US offered to Egypt and the Rafale is the strike fighter of the EAF. Maybe Egypt is waiting for the F4 standard instead of buying more F3s and upgrading them in a couple years time.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Both are considered, the Su-35 is to replace the broken F-15 Program the US offered to Egypt and the Rafale is the strike fighter of the EAF. Maybe Egypt is waiting for the F4 standard instead of buying more F3s and upgrading them in a couple years time.

Su-35 is used for air superiority. Rafale and MiG-29M/M2 are used for strike. F-16 and Mirage 2000 will be phased out over the next 10 to 20 years since they are really old frames.

 

[KAL-EL]

Not sure if it’s possible, but Egypt should go for the F-35

 

[ARCH٤R]

Su-35 is used for air superiority. Rafale and MiG-29M/M2 are used for strike. F-16 and Mirage 2000 will be phased out over the next 10 to 20 years since they are really old frames.

No, F-16s won’t be retired they’ll be upgraded however I share the same view regarding the Mirage 2000s

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

No, F-16s won’t be retired they’ll be upgraded however I share the same view regarding the Mirage 2000s

The F-16 and Mirage 2000 frames are from the 80s and 90s. They have a 30 to 40 year life span. Past that they'll be unsafe to fly. So they will be phased out gradually over the next 10 to 20 years.

 

[ARCH٤R]

Not sure if it’s possible, but Egypt should go for the F 35

We did, Egypt asked for 20 and were rejected by the majority of the Congressmen but not the Republicans.