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Egypt and Algeria 'stunned' as Turkey gains strategic control in North Africa

Don't worry mr saudia arabie guy , I'm 100 Egyptian أنا مصري ميه بالميه و مش عايز اشرح ليك او لغيرك اكتر من كده عشان انتو بتخنقوني بصراحة بتخوين كل معارض لبلحة النحس.

The islands were not given to saudias during Mubarak era ( whom he was a close friend to gulf countries and even participated in kuwait freedom war with Egyptian troops).

yeah i call them gayreeks, and I don't consider them a close friends to Egypt there were occupiers and don't get me started about invasion.

google Chios جزيرة خيوس المصرية >> ignorant saudi.


could be, but that would never happen .. you see israel from one side , gulf arabs from other side all want Egypt to be weak, especially those saudis who dream about being the cop of middle east, they think by having money they can be something important Haha.

الاختلافات السياسية يجب ان لا تفرقنا نحن العرب بغض النظر عن الحكومات التي بيدها السلطة. الشعب السعودي و الشعب المصري هم إخوة جغرافيا، تاريخيا، وبالدم ايضا، و بالعلاقات الأسرية و الثقافة. جزيرتا تيران و صنافير هما جزيرتان سعوديتان. انظر الرابط أدناه.

http://www.kfcris.com/pdf/01b7caee30524d724432198c6819bb035988303421a61.pdf

اذا كنت تطالب بتلك الجزيرة اليونانية ، فالاجدر بك ان تطالب ايضا بنصف دولة تركيا المعاصرة.

المملكة العربية السعودية لا علاقة لها بالأحداث المعاصرة التي تحري حاليا في مصر، السعودية دائما تقف بجانب مصر والشعب المصري، السعودية تستضيف اكبر جاليه مصريه في الخارج​


Write on my profile page and let us continue the discusison there if you are serious and not some false-flagger troll. Changing that Albanian flag might help too.
Lastly don't talk about ignorance when you are incapable of writing in fus7a.:lol: Ignorance is quite frankly the amount of nonsense claims and pathetic blame games of yours.

Get it into your head that I don't give a crap about ruler x or y, what matters is the stability and prosperity of Arab country x or y and as a neighbor of KSA, Egypt's stability is of utmost importance. People of Hijaz and vice versa consider each other as family. Either you are an illiterate MB cult member or an Albanian false-flagger that is clueless.
 
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CAIRO/ALGIERS--In just six months since signing its agreement with the government of Fayez al-Sarraj in Libya, Turkey has been able to tactically overturn the tables of war against the commander of the Libyan National Army (LNA), Field Marshal Khalifa Haftar.

Even more, it has changed the strategic game in North Africa, stunning Algeria and Egypt. This could push the two countries to push back against the new Turkish presence on their borders.

Turkey’s control of the strategic al-Watiya airbase in western Libya cannot be looked at as a limited operational success that Ankara won thanks to its drones.

It is much more serious than that. The fact of the matter is that Turkey has acquired strategic locations in North Africa, enabling it to pose a threat to the security of countries such as Algeria, Tunisia, Egypt and Sudan.

Analysts said countries in the region have not seriously dealt with Turkey’s intervention, failing to understand that its shipment of weapons and mercenaries to Libya is indicative of ambitions broader than limiting Haftar’s power.

Turkey’s new influence in Libya has imposed a new balance of powers to be reckoned with, both for North African and European countries.

These same analysts point out that the Turkish president’s plans to secure Libyan oil and control the long Libyan coast impacts the interests and security of countries in the region and the security of international navigation in the Mediterranean.

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Fighters loyal to Libya’s Government of National Accord after taking control of al-Watiya airbase, May 18. (REUTERS)
So far, official reactions of concerned countries regarding the fall of al-Watiya base has been lukewarm.

On Monday, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi held an urgent meeting with Defence Minister Mohamed Zaki, in which he stressed the need to keep the Egyptian armed forces on high alert, a reaction that some considered a symbolic message to show that Cairo rejects the new reality on the ground. During an African event Tuesday, Sisi said security in Libya was a priority for Egypt.

Many Egyptian sources said the prospect of Egyptian military intervention in Libya has not been so far in the cards. They say that Cairo will not fall into the trap of being drawn into a war in the neighbouring country, whose tribal structure complicates the struggle.

Egyptian sources point out that Turkey’s battle is not with Egypt, but with the international powers that supported the overthrow of Muammar Qaddafi’s regime to serve their own interests in Libya and the region, such as Italy, France and the United States. Surely, these countries will not accept a strong and strategic Turkish presence in Libya that risks giving Ankara control of the waters of the Mediterranean and opens the door for further pressure and blackmail.

A Turkish military presence at al-Watiya base or on the Libyan coast is seen as a threat to southern European countries bordering the Mediterranean, especially when coupled with Russian-Turkish coordination in Libya. It also threatens the national security of North African countries bordering the Libyan West, such as Algeria. The latter surely cannot be content with ignoring Turkey’s presence in a region that it believes represents a strategic extension of its security, as Algeria maintains advanced security and economic relations with tribal and social activities in the border region.

Algerian President Abdelmajid Tebboune has stressed that it is not possible to talk about a solution in Libya that does not take Algeria’s interests into account. This means that sooner or later, Algeria will be drawn to clash with Turkey in order to protect its national security.

Observers in Algeria pointed out the proposed constitutional amendments aimed at freeing the Algerian army from old constraints that have prevented it from playing external roles may become a golden opportunity for the country to move freely to protect its national security, including inside Libyan territory where the Turkish army and allied militias are stationed.

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Libya and its neighbours
The deteriorating security situation in Libya will definitely help Algeria justify this expected shift from one of its most prominent diplomatic and political tenets.

Even though Algeria’s reactions to recent developments in Libya have so far been only rhetorical, the country could eventually be compelled to abandon its stance of neutrality in light of increasing signs of insecurity due to Turkish military presence in Libya. Meanwhile, Turkey is dispatching Islamists in Algeria to pressure Algerian authorities to accept Turkey’s military presence in Libya as a fait accompli. But outside interference, after all, runs counter to the anti-colonial spirit of the Algerian revolution.

https://thearabweekly.com/algeria-a...-options-they-face-turkish-presence-next-door
Too exagerated article.. Haftar still controls 95% of Libya..
 
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Too exagerated article.. Haftar still controls 95% of Libya..
Most of the land are deserts and most of the population is still under the GNA control. This is what happens when you talk about a stuff that you have no idea about... :disagree::coffee:

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Most of the land are deserts and most of the population is still under the GNA control. This is what happens when you talk about a stuff that you have no idea about... :disagree::coffee:

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I guess you are still projecting your wishful thinking..

Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

The House of Representatives (also known as the Council of Deputies) is the unicameral parliament of Libya relocated to Tobruk following the occupation of Tripoli by armed islamist groups in 2014. The House of Representatives is in control of eastern and central Libya and has the loyalty of the Libyan National Army of General Khalifa Haftar which was as officially made commander on 2 March 2015.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_Civil_War_(2014–present)
 
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I guess you are still projecting your wishful thinking..

Libyan Civil War (2014–present)

The House of Representatives (also known as the Council of Deputies) is the unicameral parliament of Libya relocated to Tobruk following the occupation of Tripoli by armed islamist groups in 2014. The House of Representatives is in control of eastern and central Libya and has the loyalty of the Libyan National Army of General Khalifa Haftar which was as officially made commander on 2 March 2015.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libyan_Civil_War_(2014–present)

Oh boy what a neutral style of writing...:D
And what is the source behind this? Egyptian state owned agencies? That ''House of Representatives'' you talk about is a bunch of people (about 40 at most) coming together and proclaiming themselves to be rightful senate of Libya :lol: You may fool the people here who have no idea about the situation in Libya but you cannot fool me kiddo :azn: I really hope you are getting a good salary for your service in the troll army of Sisi :lol:
 
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One mre thing .. Sisi not only gave 2 islands to Saudia he also gave up Chios island to gayreeks in 2016 ( that island which was given to us during ottoman era).

they accused morsi of selling egyptian lands (which is an accuse he didn't committ) while their brave stronkkkkkkk man sisi the sissy boy gave up egyptian land.

when i participated in 2011 revolution I really thought we gonna get rid of corruption but seems like it's a final stage of cancer all over Egypt, it only needs a miracle from Allah to get rid of all those lunatics ruling Egypt.
That’s because of the stupidity of these so called revolutionaries they toppled Mubarak but they kept his army and agencies they should have learned from the Iranian revolution and what they did to the army and the secret police of the shah after the revolution
 
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Mr. Albanian/Turkish/false-flagger are you not tired of your usual nonsense that all other Egyptian users on PDF have been picking apart for years?

Those were legally Saudi Arabian islands. There is no controversy involved. See the scholarly report that I posted. Moreover those islands are uninhabited and under a joint command as well as free passage. No military installations exist either.

"Gayreeks"? I have never seen or encountered a single supposed Egyptian that calls Greeks that let alone a nationalist considering the close historical ties and friendly/peaceful ties.

What Egyptian island given to Greece are you blabbering about? Chios island?:lol: You can't even appear genuine.

Yes, there was no corruption under Morsi and corruption is not widespread all over the region, that is right. And let us not talk about Morsi's tenure and the utter failure that was on every front. Hence why Egyptians removed him and the army had to step in to prevent the collapse of the state (literally). No need to talk about the situation in Sinai either (back then).

Al-Sisi is not perfect, there are no perfect alternatives in Egypt currently, as long as the army plays the role it plays (since 1952) but compared to Morsi he is a nuclear physicist.
He is of Albanian descendant he have account on the Arab forum under the name ras adahab he is probably left over from Muhammad Ali army or from Albanian janissaries or from the Albanian Mamelukes
 
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He is of Albanian descendant he have account on the Arab forum under the name ras adahab he is probably left over from Muhammad Ali army or from Albanian janissaries or from the Albanian Mamelukes

That explains it all (and why no Egyptian user agrees with his nonsense) and what I suspected. He thus represents 0,03% of Egypt's total population demographically.:lol: BTW as I told I don't care about Al-Sisi (the person or regime) but about Egypt the country and our Egyptian brothers and sisters. Illiterate people like him are incapable of even such a "complex" distinction and would prefer to burn down Egypt. Not worth wasting your time on, really. Let him find some fanboys among the Turkish users here who think Erdogan's failed projects in the Arab world will succeed.:lol: They are in for a rude awakening like everywhere else outside of tiny Qatar (that is actually having a big say and saving Erdogan economically currently). Once that regime ends this knowledge and cooperation can become very useful. Sadly there is no hope with Erdogan around for a sane relationship.
 
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Libya on a map, a big country, but in reality, we are just talking about a coast, and a few cities, Tripoli is the largest, the richest, the most populous and the most important. Advances in the "desert" can be done very very quickly, there are no front lines, nor large armies in these places, there are only a few points which when they jump, open breaches important.
It is a territory where with few means we can quickly modify a balance of power, we see it with the action of the UAE and the Egyptians on one side and then currently the Turks.
This is not a big war that is waged on the ground, it is drawn out in length, fights that do not make many losses.
 
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Libya on a map, a big country, but in reality, we are just talking about a coast, and a few cities, Tripoli is the largest, the richest, the most populous and the most important. Advances in the "desert" can be done very very quickly, there are no front lines, nor large armies in these places, there are only a few points which when they jump, open breaches important.
It is a territory where with few means we can quickly modify a balance of power, we see it with the action of the UAE and the Egyptians on one side and then currently the Turks.
This is not a big war that is waged on the ground, it is drawn out in length, fights that do not make many losses.
Brother, what do you think about the bill sent to Algerian parliament? Is it true? What are your thoughts?
 
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Brother, what do you think about the bill sent to Algerian parliament? Is it true? What are your thoughts?

This amendment to the constitution is a revolution for the ANP it sends a clear and strong message to certain actors in who now know that red lines can be drawn by Algerian diplomacy and that behind a political posture country is equipped with a tool capable of acting and reacting outside its traditional perimeter
 
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Libya on a map, a big country, but in reality, we are just talking about a coast, and a few cities, Tripoli is the largest, the richest, the most populous and the most important. Advances in the "desert" can be done very very quickly, there are no front lines, nor large armies in these places, there are only a few points which when they jump, open breaches important.
It is a territory where with few means we can quickly modify a balance of power, we see it with the action of the UAE and the Egyptians on one side and then currently the Turks.
This is not a big war that is waged on the ground, it is drawn out in length, fights that do not make many losses.

Gaddafi neglected Benghazi for decades, which is why he was killed by Eastern Libyans. Eastern Libyans absolutely detest Western Libyans. Each time there is uprising in Libya it always starts in Eastern Libya.

Now, Eastern Libya has the lion's share of Libya's oil. Western Libyans now feeling the thirst for oil.
 
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This amendment to the constitution is a revolution for the ANP it sends a clear and strong message to certain actors in who now know that red lines can be drawn by Algerian diplomacy and that behind a political posture country is equipped with a tool capable of acting and reacting outside its traditional perimeter
It doesn't matter if Algeria supports the GNA or not, I wish the best for you guys but of course we can cooperate against France together...
 
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