Egypt and Algeria 'stunned' as Turkey gains strategic control in North Africa

[bsruzm]

One mre thing .. Sisi not only gave 2 islands to Saudia he also gave up Chios island to gayreeks in 2016 ( that island which was given to us during ottoman era).

they accused morsi of selling egyptian lands (which is an accuse he didn't committ) while their brave stronkkkkkkk man sisi the sissy boy gave up egyptian land.

when i participated in 2011 revolution I really thought we gonna get rid of corruption but seems like it's a final stage of cancer all over Egypt, it only needs a miracle from Allah to get rid of all those lunatics ruling Egypt.

It is said that Egyptian EEZ would increase in eastern Mediterranean once Egypt reaches an agreement with Turkey.

 

[ArabianEmpires&Caliphates]

One mre thing .. Sisi not only gave 2 islands to Saudia he also gave up Chios island to gayreeks in 2016 ( that island which was given to us during ottoman era).

they accused morsi of selling egyptian lands (which is an accuse he didn't committ) while their brave stronkkkkkkk man sisi the sissy boy gave up egyptian land.

when i participated in 2011 revolution I really thought we gonna get rid of corruption but seems like it's a final stage of cancer all over Egypt, it only needs a miracle from Allah to get rid of all those lunatics ruling Egypt.

Mr. Albanian/Turkish/false-flagger are you not tired of your usual nonsense that all other Egyptian users on PDF have been picking apart for years?

Those were legally Saudi Arabian islands. There is no controversy involved. See the scholarly report that I posted. Moreover those islands are uninhabited and under a joint command as well as free passage. No military installations exist either.

"Gayreeks"? I have never seen or encountered a single supposed Egyptian that calls Greeks that let alone a nationalist considering the close historical ties and friendly/peaceful ties.

What Egyptian island given to Greece are you blabbering about? Chios island? You can't even appear genuine.

Yes, there was no corruption under Morsi and corruption is not widespread all over the region, that is right. And let us not talk about Morsi's tenure and the utter failure that was on every front. Hence why Egyptians removed him and the army had to step in to prevent the collapse of the state (literally). No need to talk about the situation in Sinai either (back then).

Al-Sisi is not perfect, there are no perfect alternatives in Egypt currently, as long as the army plays the role it plays (since 1952) but compared to Morsi he is a nuclear physicist.

 

[Nilgiri]

I just love how every tinpot out there is a "fieldmarshal ".......I can just imagine Haftar standing toe to toe with Von Mainstein when it comes to strategy of warfare.

Field marshal?

PSSSHHH

nobody aint got nothin on generalissssiisisimmisissmismo chiang kai shek. Highest power level rank eva.

 

[Total Destruction]

Mr. Albanian/Turkish/false-flagger are you not tired of your usual nonsense that all other Egyptian users on PDF have been picking apart for years?

Those were legally Saudi Arabian islands. There is no controversy involved. See the scholarly report that I posted. Moreover those islands are uninhabited and under a joint command as well as free passage. No military installations exist either.

"Gayreeks"? I have never seen or encountered a single supposed Egyptian that calls Greeks that let alone a nationalist considering the close historical ties and friendly/peaceful ties.

What Egyptian island given to Greece are you blabbering about? Chios island? You can't even appear genuine.

Yes, there was no corruption under Morsi and corruption is not widespread all over the region, that is right. And let us not talk about Morsi's tenure and the utter failure that was on every front. Hence why Egyptians removed him and the army had to step in to prevent the collapse of the state (literally). No need to talk about the situation in Sinai either (back then).

Al-Sisi is not perfect, there are no perfect alternatives in Egypt currently, as long as the army plays the role it plays (since 1952) but compared to Morsi he is a nuclear physicist.

Don't worry mr saudia arabie guy , I'm 100 Egyptian أنا مصري ميه بالميه و مش عايز اشرح ليك او لغيرك اكتر من كده عشان انتو بتخنقوني بصراحة بتخوين كل معارض لبلحة النحس.

The islands were not given to saudias during Mubarak era ( whom he was a close friend to gulf countries and even participated in kuwait freedom war with Egyptian troops).

yeah i call them gayreeks, and I don't consider them a close friends to Egypt there were occupiers and don't get me started about invasion.

google Chios جزيرة خيوس المصرية >> ignorant saudi.

It is said that Egyptian EEZ would increase in eastern Mediterranean once Egypt reaches an agreement with Turkey.

could be, but that would never happen .. you see israel from one side , gulf arabs from other side all want Egypt to be weak, especially those saudis who dream about being the cop of middle east, they think by having money they can be something important Haha.

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

Do you think that hurts us or something?
Turkeys NATO membership was nothing but benefical for Turkey, we get tech, we get protection, we get political levarage.
Those are things that Egypt has to pay a high price for, like buying Mistrals that France couldnt get rid of otherwise and that are useless in its current shape and form for Egypt.
Or selling Islands to Saudi Arabia etc etc. Yet in the end Egypt doesnt even get 1/10 of the benefits that Turkey gets.

So yeah, you might try to mock us with it but any smart person who knows anything about Geopolitics will understand how valuable a membership in such an alliance is.

And an another thing is, NATO and US benefits more than us with our membership to NATO. Think about it, whenever a NATO drill happens, we send the most ships and planes. We were NATO's southern shield that single-handedly kept the Soviet might stuck at the Black Sea. And yet these Egyptian paid-trolls of Sisi here try to mock us by calling us a proxy state with their empty heads... Yeah anyone with an IQ over 60 can see who's a real client state afterall...
Sizin hayallerinizin bittiği yerde bizim gerçeklerimiz başlar!

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

And an another thing is, NATO and US benefits more than us with our membership to NATO. Think about it, whenever a NATO drill happens, we send the most ships and planes. We were NATO's southern shield that single-handedly kept the Soviet might stuck at the Black Sea. And yet these Egyptian paid-trolls of Sisi here try to mock us by calling us a proxy state with their empty heads... Yeah anyone with an IQ over 60 can see who's a real client state afterall...
Sizin hayallerinizin bittiği yerde bizim gerçeklerimiz başlar!

Cold War is past. No use for Turkey anymore. US wants good relation with Russia to counter a rising China.

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

Cold War is past. No use for Turkey anymore. US wants good relation with Russia to counter a rising China.

I gave that example to show the current might of Turkey to these dumbasses. They are in a Anti-Turkish alliance with Greece, Israel and France and they have been constantly buying new arms yet these 4 countries still cannot match the might of the TN in the E.Mediterranean. That's what I'm trying to say. US will move it's Mediterranean fleet to Pacific soon and there will be a huge power vacuum left and be sure that TN will be there to fill that when the time comes... The only chance left for these countries are coming to terms with Turkey and giving up on their masters. These idiots here in PDF thinks that everything about the power balances between countries are as simple as Globalfirepower lists...

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

I gave that example to show the current might of Turkey to these dumbasses. They are in a Anti-Turkish alliance with Greece, Israel and France and they have been constantly buying new arms yet these 4 countries still cannot match the might of the TN in the E.Mediterranean. That's what I'm trying to say. US will move it's Mediterranean fleet to Pacific soon and there will be a huge power vacuum left and be sure than TN will be there to fill that when the time comes... The only chance left for these countries is coming to terms with Turkey and giving up on their masters. These idiots here in PDF thinks that everything about the power balances between countries are as simple as Globalfirepower lists...

Turkey did nothing when Russia annexed Crimea. Turkey does not stop Russian ships crossing Bosphorous. So what's the use of Turkey? Nada.

 

[xenon54 out]

Turkey did nothing when Russia annexed Crimea. Turkey does not stop Russian ships crossing Bosphorous. So what's the use of Turkey? Nada.

Dude, you must be acting dumb, no really, nobody can be that dense...

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

Turkey did nothing when Russia annexed Crimea. Turkey does not stop Russian ships crossing Bosphorous. So what's the use of Turkey? Nada.

LOL your examples are surely as idiotic as theirs What does Turkey have something to do with Crimea? Also our relations with Russia were even better than now before 2015... Do you think everything was as peaceful as now back in the Cold War? You cannot believe how many crazy stories are left out there from the Cold War times. And it's not about stopping some crappy ships, it's about standing up against a country. Do you think we cannot stop some ships if we wanted to? And it's not just about the military power, acc to the Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Straits, we can stop any military ship in the Straits if we want to.
What upsets me is that people like you with similar intelligence try to act like a general or an analyst in every military forums out there across the internet...

 

[Indos]

One mre thing .. Sisi not only gave 2 islands to Saudia he also gave up Chios island to gayreeks in 2016 ( that island which was given to us during ottoman era).

they accused morsi of selling egyptian lands (which is an accuse he didn't committ) while their brave stronkkkkkkk man sisi the sissy boy gave up egyptian land.

when i participated in 2011 revolution I really thought we gonna get rid of corruption but seems like it's a final stage of cancer all over Egypt, it only needs a miracle from Allah to get rid of all those lunatics ruling Egypt.

MB need to infiltrate the Armed Force, this is the only way to save Egypt.

Even Indonesia Communist Party can infiltrate our Armed Force in the old time. Armed Force get divided between Pro Communist vs Anti Communist.

 

[Total Destruction]

MB need to infiltrate the Armed Force, this is the only way to save Egypt.

That is impossible.
First, Egyptian MB branch is not that strong or has much influence they are probably all butchered and who survived is now out of the country or in jail.

Second, the only way to save Egypt is a military coup but this time against the current generals and the faggot El-sisi.

something like 1952 military coup but in the right way, group of officers took power and that's it. But once again The General intelligence service and the military intelliegence service services probably daily briefs about the situation and they are backed by Israel.

 

[Indos]

That is impossible.
First, Egyptian MB branch is not that strong or has much influence they are probably all butchered and who survived is now out of the country or in jail.

Second, the only way to save Egypt is a military coup but this time against the current generals and the faggot El-sisi.

something like 1952 military coup but in the right way, group of officers took power and that's it. But once again The General intelligence service and the military intelliegence service services probably daily briefs about the situation and they are backed by Israel.

The infiltration should not been made formally by MB, but by personal. Not being organized.

I dont like Military coup idea since it will create bad culture in the Armed Force. The perfect way is to create Armed Force generals who are supportive with democracy idea and dont have alergic attitude toward Islam politics. So when another revolution takes place, they will not shoot the protester and instead backs the movement.

 

[Total Destruction]

The infiltration should not been made formally by MB, but by personal. Not being organized.

I dont like Military coup idea since it will create bad culture in the Armed Force. The perfect way is to create Armed Force generals who are supportive with democracy idea and dont have alergic attitude toward Islam politics. So when another revolution takes place, they will not shoot the protester and instead backs the movement.

You forgot that Israel will never accept an Islamic Egyptian military or a democratic Egypt, that means the doom of zionists.
Egypt in such a bad situation we have zionists from one side, Gulf Arabs from one side and corrupted generals from one side.

we need a miracle and I'm serious we need a miracle. Infiltration can be a good idea but it will take yars and years to achieve its purpose. Maybe this Corona virus is a gift in the end, Since all countries will focus to build its broken economy ( for example gulf countries, especially Saudia, they have lost billions of foreign reserve during this panadamic and I don't think they will support sisi financially anymore , also the current Egyptian situation is so fragile, people are suffering, we might witness a new revolution) I hope Corona turns to be a good gift for us.

 

[bsruzm]

The General intelligence service and the military intelliegence service services probably daily briefs about the situation and they are backed by Israel.

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