Don't vote for BJP, it will impose a Hindu CM, Only a Muslim can become CM in J&K: PDP leader

[AnnoyingOrange]

Srinagar: In an apparent reference to the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) which is trying to make inroads in the Jammu and Kashmir, People's Democratic Party (PDP) leader Peer Mansoor has urged the people not to vote for parties, which would impose a Hindu chief minister if elected to power.

Addressing a rally in south Kashmir, PDP MLA Mansoor said that certain parties are trying to forge an alliance with some communal elements and want to impose a Hindu CM in J&K.

He urged the people not to vote for parties which would impose a Hindu CM as it would be a curse on Kashmir.

Mansoor also reportedly said that Kashmir has a Muslim majority and only a person from the same community can rule the state.

Mansoor's controversial statement has drawn a sharp reaction from the BJP, which said that it would file a complaint with the State Election Commission in this regard.

The BJP has also demanded strict action against Mansoor for playing communal card ahead of assembly elections, and said such remarks are not good for the nation's integrity.

Interestingly, PDP chief Mehbooba Mufti had recently said, “The electoral contest is now mainly between PDP and BJP; casting votes for NC or Congress would be a sheer wastage of your power to change.”

Jammu and Kashmir Assembly has 87 seats and will witness five phase elections starting from November 25.

Polling in the hilly state will take place on November 25 for phase 1, December 2 for phase 2, December 9 for phase 3, December 14 for phase 4 and December 20 for phase 5.

Counting of votes for all the five phases will be held on December 23.

Don't vote for BJP, it will impose a Hindu CM in J&K: PDP leader | Zee News

Only a Muslim can become CM in Jammu and Kashmir, says PDP MLA

He knows he will be wiped out this time around...so he is trying to do what Congress did in delhi...calling for consolidation of Muslim vote against BJ....and look what happended to them...

 

[Joe Shearer]

I have to leave; classes begin at eight.

One last thought for the great, all conquering hero Al Zolfiqar.

I live on a teacher's salary. It isn't much, roughly one-fourth of what I used to earn in the corporate world. I put my hand in my pocket and I contributed. It hurt, but I did what I could.

O hero! Besides talking up a storm on an Internet forum, and vowing to fight to the last Kashmiri, pray, what have you done?

 

[Bang Galore]

Keep hanging on to your illusions. Much good it will do you, or anyone else. The JKLF is practically gone; which century are you living in?

That's understandable actually. Fairly recent events in their book considering that quite a few of them pine for the time of the Delhi sultanate and the Mughal era.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I don't like Dogras !

@SarthakGanguly - Oi tu Dogra tou nahin ?

Naah. Dogras don't speak Koshur anyway. Just like you.

 

[Joe Shearer]

@Bang Galore

The Tribune, Chandigarh, India - Main News

 

[Joe Shearer]

Naah. Dogras don't speak Koshur anyway. Just like you.

ROTFL.

Stoppit, you guys. I've just gone through an hour of utterly dreary and mediocre presentations on Strategic Management, and really can't take much more. Is suicide an option?

 

[Armstrong]

ROTFL.

Stoppit, you guys. I've just gone through an hour of utterly dreary and mediocre presentations on Strategic Management, and really can't take much more. Is suicide an option?

@SarthakGanguly shall we recommend Harakiri with a butter-knife for Joe Sahib ?

 

[k_arura]

for your argument to hold you better list these contradictions or i'll just call you out on your bluff as i always do with our oh-so-esteemed indian guests here

Time is limited but the list is endless. But here is a bulleted version:

1) 1947 war. It's the tribals not OUR fauj
2) 1965: we got sucked into this war. Reality? Operation Gibraltar which even your anchors are only now wizening upto as they realize what kind of hogwash they were fed in schools!
3) 1971: Hamdour rehman commission never sees the light of day until .......
4) 1999: Kargil. We have nothing to do with it, they are mujahideen! When Musharraf was asked if there should be an inquiry, he said no as it will reveal state secrets (which the whole world knows and heard on a recorded tape) such as their relationship with the militants/terrorists! Refused to take dead bodies yet honor them later on away from lime light. Northern light infantry

5). Mumbai 26/11

Let me stop here and not embarrass you any more although I find you folks are beyond shame.

 

[Deathnote]

because screw the so-called "Kashmiriyat"

 

[SarthakGanguly]

While that is true, it depends on the inhibitions being put forward. That somehow Muslims in Kashmir will suffer under a Hindu BJP CM. This has political misconstruing at its core, but there is historical precedent for it.. and at the same time against it.
The Indian state under the Raj and after it has had some non-muslim leadership in smaller positions who played instrumental roles in providing betterment to the Muslim communities..

At the same time there are clear historical examples where Hindus(and Muslims in a vice-versa example) in positions of power have played a biased role against the Majority or minority Muslim population. It is then therefore usually best to take a leader from the major section of the community at the top and then intersperse it with those from the minority communities in the positions directly beneath them... or as the other alternative.. appoint a Hindu CM but ensure that the majority of his staff and cabinet are Muslim and hence help keep his decisions balanced.

That's a massive dose of political correctness here. That said, the Kashmir BJP is lucky to have very able people - clean and highly qualified.
Source - http://www.jkbjp.in/candidate-list/

Seriously speaking the mood in the Valley about the CM is this - "Ab kaunsa Musalman hain!". There is not much of a sentiment against a Hindu or Sikh CM. Most young Kashmiris want a better economy, a good job, a decent future. It is also a fact that both PDP and NC are fast losing their vote share to Congress(!) and BJP.

 

[Blue Sword]

Whoever gets elected should work for the development of the J&K. Promote the economy of the state and abolish the article 370.

 

[manlion]

 

[kurup]

If anything, your remark is more annoying than Abu Zolfiqar's was. Why don't you know?

Also take into account that out of the 350,000, a significant number is located around Udhampur, near the Chicken's Neck; another very large number is tasked to look east. Detailing the precise numbers beyond this is not desirable; those who need to know on the other side already know, right down to the orbat.

The number of soldiers actually on counter-insurgency duties in the Vale is almost confined to RR units, which can be counted and multiplied by a fixed number known widely. These are organised into 'Forces' located at different geographies, and backed up by CRP and local armed police. There is nothing much to be said about these, except that some very good units of the local armed police exist, which excel over all others in these duties.

2011 report

We have all heard this often, and even taken it as gospel truth. “The Indian troops-to-Kashmiri people ratio in the occupied Kashmir is the largest ever soldiers-to-civilians ratio in the world.” “Kashmir is the ‘most heavily militarized zone’ in the world.” “There is an Indian soldier for every ten civilians in Kashmir.”

These myths are based on many erroneous premises. Let us start with the police. The total sanctioned strength of Jammu and Kashmir police, including the civil police and the armed police, is 68,125. Based on the actual strength of the police in 2009 and the population of the state as per 2001 census, the police-to-population ratio comes to 683 per 100,000 people. As per 2009 data, the national average for the police-to-population ratio is 133, while the UN mandated figure is 250-300. Considering the violence experienced in the state during the last two decades, the existing police-to-population ratio is not abnormally high.

Next come the paramilitary forces. As per this statement by the Union minister of state for Parliamentary Affairs, Planning and Science and Technology, Ashwani Kumar, there are 86,260 people from the central forces deployed in the complete state of Jammu and Kashmir. In 1989, before the insurgency started, there were 28,782 central armed forces troopers deployed in the state.

Finally the army. The official figures of the army men deployed in the state is not available but in 2007, the army authorities had reportedly stated that there are 3,37,000 soldiers deployed within the geographical boundaries of the state. Leave alone the fact that at least 3o,000 soldiers have since moved out of the state, the deployment of soldiers needs to placed in the right context.

Barring the Rashtriya Rifles, which is a specialist counterinsurgency paramilitary force manned by the army, all the Indian army units are deployed on the Line of Control, Actual Ground Position Line (both with Pakistan) and the Line of Actual Control (with China). Even the Rashtriya Rifles are mainly deployed in the semi-urban and rural areas of Kashmir. There are a total of 65 Rashtriya Rifles battalion in the state, and at an estimated average of 1,000 soldiers per unit, this would lead to 65,000 Rashtriya Rifles troopers in the state.

So the actual strength of security force personnel dealing with the people in the state is nowhere near the figure of 7,00,000 which is usually floated in the media. Barring the 2,20,000 policemen, paramilitary troopers and Rashtriya Rifles soldiers deployed among the population, the rest of the army soldiers shall continue to be deployed on the LoC, AGPL and LAC irrespective of the internal security situation in the state. Even among the 2,20,000 troopers, a fair share of the police force would still be required to maintain the law and order in the state which has a population of 1,25,48,926 as per the 2011 census.

Mythbusting: Soldiers-to-civilians ratio in Kashmir | Pragmatic Euphony


2014 report

National Crime Records Bureau data shows that the J&K police had 41,322 police officers on its rolls in 1997: 446 for every 100,000 residents, and 40.8 per 100 square kilometres of territory, over twice as high as the levels reached in insurgency-hit States like, for instance, Punjab.
These already-high figures have, according to Union Government figures for 2012, expanded to 76,980 — an addition, in personnel terms, of some three Army divisions. J&K now has 646 police officers per 100,000 population, the highest in the country outside the north-east States.

The Centre does not make public the Army’s force levels in the J&K. In 2007, then-Northern Army commander, Lieutenant-General H.S. Panag, said a total of 3,37,000 troops were present in the State, about a third of these committed to counter-terrorism. There are five division-strength formations engaged in the task, Kilo in Kupwara, Victor in Awantipora, Romeo in Rajouri, Delta in Doda and Uniform in Udhampur — the same as in the 2000s, even though violence levels have clearly come down.

In the last two years, the Central Reserve Police Force moved out some of its forces from the State, scaling back from an estimated 78 battalions, each with about 1,000 personnel, to 60 battalions. This limited drawdown, though, has been more than compensated for by the enhanced police numbers.

Kashmir: fewer troops, more peace - The Hindu

 

[OrionHunter]

Seems like a sensible man

You get the prize for being the first troll on this thread!

 

[Sam Manekshaw]

How am I ruled by a Hindu? We don't recognize your leader as our ruler.

Good Advice: Hijarat karo bhaijaan.

On topic:- Now it's upto the ppl of Kashmir what is there priority Development or Religion.