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Do India's Space Program and Mars Mission Make Sense?

Mr. Haq, the money has already been spent on the Mars and the damage has done irreversibly!!! Apparently the spacecraft is already orbiting the Mars and is unfortunately in good health!!!

What do you suggest we should do now? Apologize to the Pakistanis and shoot it down?
 
The absolute number of poor has gone down. But China reduced its numbers greatly compared to us so our share increased. You are a smart man I hope you understand what I am saying.

With India's population growth greater than poverty reduction rates, the absolute number of poor in India has gone up 5% since 1990.

Excerpt from the Guardian:

" (British minister of international development) Alexander contrasted the rapid growth in China with India's economic success - highlighting government figures that showed the number of poor people had dropped in the one-party communist state by 70% since 1990 but had risen in the world's biggest democracy by 5%"

British minister defends £825m aid to help India's poor | World news | The Guardian
 
@RiazHaq India's middle class population is many times more than the entire population of most of the countries around the world, in fact it is more than the entire population of other countries barring one, and it is continuously increasing.

Same goes for the educated population of India, and it is also continuously increasing.

You have a giant in making here, bury your head in sand if you don't like it.

And that chart that you have posted some 30 times here from your 'famous' blog about "India's share of the world's poorest grow from 22% to 33% since 1980", India is reducing its poverty, it is just that another highly populated country China did it faster, so our share of poor in the world went up, but that doesn't mean poverty has increased in India, in fact it is just the opposite. I know you will find it hard to grasp what I said, but try to read it slowly, and over and over again, you might succeed.
 
@ the OP, save your wailing for Pakistan (instead of the dubious feel good crap that you pull out of your derriere often) as it will not do jack shit to prevent ISRO or GOI from pursuing it's goals further. Check out ISRO's future programs and lament more.


GSAT-6 & 6A
GSAT-6 is a high power S-band communication satellite. The spacecraft is configured around I-2K bus with a lift-off mass of 2200 kg. It is configured with CxS and SxC transponders. This spacecraft will also provide a platform for developing technologies such as demonstration of large unfurlable antenna in satellites, handheld ground terminals and network management techniques that could be useful in future satellite based mobile communication applications.

GSAT-6A will be a follow-on satellite planned to be launched by the end of 12th Five Year Plan. GSAT-6 is planned to be launched by GSLV.
GSAT-9
GSAT-9 spacecraft, configured to augment the growing need of Ku-band transponders. The spacecraft employs the standard I-2K structure with the power handling capability of around 3000 W, with a lift off mass of 2195 kg. It is designed for a mission life of more than 12 years.

The satellite is planned for launch onboard GSLV.
GSAT-11
GSAT-11 is an advanced communication satellite employing a new class of bus weighing 4000-6000 Kg. The commercial payload includes Ka x Ku-Band Forward Link Transponders and Ku x Ka band Return Link Transponders.
GSAT-15
GSAT-15 is a communication satellite of 3150 kg lift-off and 6500 W power generation capacity. It is designed for a mission life of more than 12 years. The spacecraft's commercial payload includes Ku-Band transponders and a two channel GAGAN payload.

GSAT-15 is planned to be launched onboard a procured launcher.
GSAT-16
GSAT-16 is a communication satellite configured around I-3K Extended bus with a lift off mass of 3150 kg and 6500 W power generation capacity with mission life of more than 12 years. The spacecraft's commercial payload includes Transponders in Ku and C-band. GSAT-16 is aimed at further augmenting communication services in the country.

The satellite will be launched onboard a procured launcher.
Resourcesat-2A
Resourcesat-2A, a follow on mission to Resourcesat-2, is intended to provide continuity of data to the users. The configuration is similar to Resourcesat-2 having three-tier imaging capability, with a unique combination of payloads consisting of three solid-state cameras, viz., a high resolution Linear Imaging Self Scanning Sensor - LISS-IV, a medium resolution Linear Imaging Self Scanning Sensor - LISS-III and an Advanced Wide Field Sensor (AWiFS).

The readiness of the satellite is planned during 2015-16.
Cartosat-2C/2D/2E
Cartosat-2C mission is similar to Cartosat-2A/2B with a few technological enhancements and with the mission objective of providing high resolution scene specific spot imagery. It would carry Panchromatic and Multispectral cameras operating in Time Delay Integration (TDI) mode. The spacecraft is capable of along track and across track steering up to ±45 deg and ±26 deg respectively.

The spacecraft is planned to be launched by PSLV into a nominal altitude of 500 km, with a mission life of 5 years. Cartosat-2D and Cartosat-2E will have similar configuration of Cartosat-2C. The readiness of the first satellite is planned during 2015-16.
GISAT
GISAT will carry a GEO Imager with multi-spectral (visible, near infra-red and thermal), multi-resolution (50 m to 1.5 km) imaging instruments. GISAT will be placed in the geostationary orbit of 36,000 km height to provide near real time images of large areas of the country, under cloud free conditions, at frequent intervals. That is, selected sector-wise image every 5 minutes and entire Indian landmass image every 30 minutes at 50 m spatial resolution.
INSAT-3DR/ 3DS
INSAT-3DR will be a follow-on satellite to INSAT-3D and it is planned to be positioned at 74 deg East longitude in the geostationary orbit.

Readiness of spacecraft is planned during June 2015. INSAT-3DS, the ground spare is also under development.

Launch Vehicle / Forthcoming Launches
GSLV-Mk III-X Mission

GSLV-Mk III, an experimental suborbital flight (GSLV-Mk III-X) with a passive cryogenic stage, is scheduled during third quarter of 2014.


Future Launch Vehicle
GSLV-Mk III

GSLV-Mk III is the next generation launch vehicle of ISRO capable of delivering 4 ton class spacecraft to Geosynchronous transfer orbit (GTO).

GSLV-Mk III is a three stage launch vehicle with three propulsion stages and has a lift-off weight of 630 tonnes and a height of 42.4 m. The GSLV-Mk III vehicle configuration is two Solid strap-on boosters Stages (S200), One Liquid Stage (L110) and One Cryogenic Stage (C25). The spacecraft is accommodated in a 5 metre diameter composite payload fairing of 110 cub m volume.

Reusable Launch Vehicle-Technology Demonstrator (RLV-TD)
A winged Reusable Launch Vehicle Technology Demonstrator (RLV-TD) has been configured to act as a flying test bed to evaluate various technologies, viz., hypersonic flight, autonomous landing, powered cruise flight and hypersonic flight using air breathing propulsion towards realising a Two Stage to Orbit (TSTO) fully Reusable Launch Vehicle.

The launch of RLV-TD HEX-01 mission is planned in 2014.

Pre Project activities of Human Space Flight Mission Programme
The objective of Human Spaceflight Programme is to undertake a human spaceflight mission to carry a crew of two to Low Earth Orbit (LEO) and return them safely to a predefined destination on earth. The programme is proposed to be implemented in defined phases. The pre project activities are progressing with a focus on the development of critical technologies for subsystems such as Crew Module (CM), Environmental control and Life Support System (ECLSS), Crew Escape System, etc., and performance demonstration of major systems through Crew Module Atmospheric Re-entry Experiment (CARE) and crew escape system through Pad Abort Test (PAT).

Space Capsule Recovery Experiment (SRE-II)
SRE-2 Project was formed with the main objective of realising a fully recoverable capsule and to provide a platform to conduct microgravity experiments. SRE capsule has four major hardware, namely, Aero Thermo-structure (ATS), Spacecraft platform, Deceleration & Floatation system and Payloads.

ATS base structure has been realised. Six plasma wind tunnel tests were conducted to validate repair scheme of the silica tile. To qualify new elements mounted in the base region of SRE-2, an integrated test of annular deck was successfully completed. Carbon-Carbon cap has been processed as 4D composite through Hot Isostatic Pitch Impregnation and Carbonisation (HIPIC) route. Processing of Carbon-Carbon shell through 2D Pitch Impregnation and Carbonisation route is in progress. Interface design of Carbon-Carbon cap and shell was revisited based on the new thermo-mechanical properties. SiC coated Carbon-Carbon samples have been validated at plasma wind tunnel facility.




Space Science Missions
Chandrayaan-2

Chandrayaan 2, India’s second mission to the Moon, is an advanced version of the previous Chandrayaan-1 mission. It consists of an Orbiter, Lander and Rover configuration. It is planned to be launched as a composite stack into the Earth Parking Orbit (EPO) of 170 X 18,500 km by GSLV-Mk II. The Orbiter carries the combined stack up to moon till the Lunar Orbit Insertion (LOI). The combined stack is then inserted into a lunar orbit of 100 km x 100 km. The Lander is separated from the Orbiter in this orbit.

The Orbiter with scientific payloads will orbit around the moon. The Lander will soft land on the Moon at a specified site and deploy the Rover. The scientific payloads onboard the Orbiter, Lander and Rover are expected to perform mineralogical and elemental studies of the lunar surface.

During 2010, it was agreed that Russian Space Agency ROSCOSMOS would be responsible for lunar Lander and ISRO will be responsible for Orbiter and Rover as well as Launch by GSLV. Later, due to a shift in the programmatic alignment of this mission, it was decided that the Lunar Lander development would be done by ISRO and Chandrayaan-2 will be totally an Indian mission.

ASTROSAT

ASTROSAT is a multi-wavelength astronomy mission aimed at studying the celestial sources and will carry a suite of instruments sensitive over a wide spectral region covering Visible, Ultraviolet, Soft X-ray and Hard X-ray bands. ASTROSAT will be placed in a 650 km near-equatorial orbit using PSLV-XL.

The four X-ray payloads are: Three identical Large Area Xenon-filled Proportional Counters (LAXPC) instrument covering 3-100 keV region, a Cadmium Zinc-Telluride Imager (CZTI) array with coded mask aperture sensitive in 10-100 keV band, a Soft X-ray Imaging Telescope (SXT) using X-ray reflecting mirrors, X-ray CCD for imaging and spectral studies in 0.3 – 8 keV band and a Scanning Sky Monitor (SSM) for detection and monitoring of new and known X-ray sources in 2 – 10 keV region. The UV and Visible bands are covered by an Ultra Violet Imaging Telescope (UVIT) consisting of two identical telescopes, one covering the FUV band (130 – 180 nm) and the second sensitive in NUV (180 – 300 nm) and Visible (350 – 600 nm) bands.

Aditya-1

Aditya-1 is a scientific mission for solar studies. The major scientific objectives of the mission are to achieve a fundamental understanding of the physical processes that heat the solar corona, accelerate the solar wind and produce Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs). It was conceived as a small satellite carrying only a coronagraph as a payload.

In order to get the best science from the Sun, continuous viewing of the Sun is preferred. A Satellite placed in the halo orbit around the L1 Lagrangian point of the Sun-Earth system has the major advantage of continuously viewing the Sun without any occultation/ eclipses. Based on the technical studies, it was found that PSLV-XL developed at ISRO has the capability to launch a satellite which can be placed at a halo orbit around L1 point. The following six proposals have been short-listed for the mission:



And, this is scheduled at max within upto 2020 - not to forget all those collaborative missions and projects planned along with NASA, so believe me, your crappy thread and blog will do jack shit in deterring anyone.


@FaujHistorian...might as well recommend a good
psychiatrist.
 
With India's population growth greater than poverty reduction rates, the absolute number of poor in India has gone up 5% since 1990.

Excerpt from the Guardian:

" (British minister of international development) Alexander contrasted the rapid growth in China with India's economic success - highlighting government figures that showed the number of poor people had dropped in the one-party communist state by 70% since 1990 but had risen in the world's biggest democracy by 5%"

British minister defends £825m aid to help India's poor | World news | The Guardian

hey riaz, you lost your argument :lol:. you cannot quote a 10 year old news report.
 
With India's population growth greater than poverty reduction rates, the absolute number of poor in India has gone up 5% since 1990.

Excerpt from the Guardian:

" (British minister of international development) Alexander contrasted the rapid growth in China with India's economic success - highlighting government figures that showed the number of poor people had dropped in the one-party communist state by 70% since 1990 but had risen in the world's biggest democracy by 5%"

British minister defends £825m aid to help India's poor | World news | The Guardian

BTW, lots of criticization about ISRO, what about SUPARCO.

Can you give some light on that?
 
Given low levels of India's development at this stage, its priorities should be as follows:

1. Feed its people. India is currently ranked along with sub-Saharan African nations on world hunger charts.

Haq's Musings: "Starving" North Korea's Space Pursuit Different From Hungry India's?

Food security bill.

2. Build toilets to save its people from early death. India leads the world in open defecation and premature deaths.

Haq's Musings: World Health Day in Pakistan: Premature Death Rate Declines Amidst Rising Violence

swachh bharat abhiyan

3. Improve the quality of education. India's kids rank near bottom on international tests.

Haq's Musings: PISA & TIMSS Confirm Low Quality of Indian Education

Mangalyaan, Chandrayaan, GSLV, PSLV
IT & ITES. Pharma. Medical services (which serves Pakistanis too FYI)

4. Improve the lives of 60% of Indians who engage in farming. Indian farmers are committing suicides at a rate of one every 30 minutes.

Haq's Musings: India's Agrarian Crisis: A Farmer Commits Suicide Every 30 Minutes

Land reforms. Minimum support price.
Also
Considering that a person commit suicide every 40 seconds. We are ok on that front.

Get some data on that Riaz.
 
@ the OP, save your wailing for Pakistan (instead of the dubious feel good crap that you pull out of your derriere often) as it will not do jack shit to prevent ISRO or GOI from pursuing it's goals further. Check out ISRO's future programs and lament more.


GSAT-6 & 6A
GSAT-6 is a high power S-band communication satellite. The spacecraft is configured around I-2K bus with a lift-off mass of 2200 kg. It is configured with CxS and SxC transponders. This spacecraft will also provide a platform for developing technologies such as demonstration of large unfurlable antenna in satellites, handheld ground terminals and network management techniques that could be useful in future satellite based mobile communication applications.

GSAT-6A will be a follow-on satellite planned to be launched by the end of 12th Five Year Plan. GSAT-6 is planned to be launched by GSLV.
GSAT-9
GSAT-9 spacecraft, configured to augment the growing need of Ku-band transponders. The spacecraft employs the standard I-2K structure with the power handling capability of around 3000 W, with a lift off mass of 2195 kg. It is designed for a mission life of more than 12 years.

The satellite is planned for launch onboard GSLV.
GSAT-11
GSAT-11 is an advanced communication satellite employing a new class of bus weighing 4000-6000 Kg. The commercial payload includes Ka x Ku-Band Forward Link Transponders and Ku x Ka band Return Link Transponders.
GSAT-15
GSAT-15 is a communication satellite of 3150 kg lift-off and 6500 W power generation capacity. It is designed for a mission life of more than 12 years. The spacecraft's commercial payload includes Ku-Band transponders and a two channel GAGAN payload.

GSAT-15 is planned to be launched onboard a procured launcher.
GSAT-16
GSAT-16 is a communication satellite configured around I-3K Extended bus with a lift off mass of 3150 kg and 6500 W power generation capacity with mission life of more than 12 years. The spacecraft's commercial payload includes Transponders in Ku and C-band. GSAT-16 is aimed at further augmenting communication services in the country.

The satellite will be launched onboard a procured launcher.
Resourcesat-2A
Resourcesat-2A, a follow on mission to Resourcesat-2, is intended to provide continuity of data to the users. The configuration is similar to Resourcesat-2 having three-tier imaging capability, with a unique combination of payloads consisting of three solid-state cameras, viz., a high resolution Linear Imaging Self Scanning Sensor - LISS-IV, a medium resolution Linear Imaging Self Scanning Sensor - LISS-III and an Advanced Wide Field Sensor (AWiFS).

The readiness of the satellite is planned during 2015-16.
Cartosat-2C/2D/2E
Cartosat-2C mission is similar to Cartosat-2A/2B with a few technological enhancements and with the mission objective of providing high resolution scene specific spot imagery. It would carry Panchromatic and Multispectral cameras operating in Time Delay Integration (TDI) mode. The spacecraft is capable of along track and across track steering up to ±45 deg and ±26 deg respectively.

The spacecraft is planned to be launched by PSLV into a nominal altitude of 500 km, with a mission life of 5 years. Cartosat-2D and Cartosat-2E will have similar configuration of Cartosat-2C. The readiness of the first satellite is planned during 2015-16.
GISAT
GISAT will carry a GEO Imager with multi-spectral (visible, near infra-red and thermal), multi-resolution (50 m to 1.5 km) imaging instruments. GISAT will be placed in the geostationary orbit of 36,000 km height to provide near real time images of large areas of the country, under cloud free conditions, at frequent intervals. That is, selected sector-wise image every 5 minutes and entire Indian landmass image every 30 minutes at 50 m spatial resolution.
INSAT-3DR/ 3DS
INSAT-3DR will be a follow-on satellite to INSAT-3D and it is planned to be positioned at 74 deg East longitude in the geostationary orbit.

Readiness of spacecraft is planned during June 2015. INSAT-3DS, the ground spare is also under development.

Launch Vehicle / Forthcoming Launches
GSLV-Mk III-X Mission

GSLV-Mk III, an experimental suborbital flight (GSLV-Mk III-X) with a passive cryogenic stage, is scheduled during third quarter of 2014.

Future Launch Vehicle
GSLV-Mk III

GSLV-Mk III is the next generation launch vehicle of ISRO capable of delivering 4 ton class spacecraft to Geosynchronous transfer orbit (GTO).

GSLV-Mk III is a three stage launch vehicle with three propulsion stages and has a lift-off weight of 630 tonnes and a height of 42.4 m. The GSLV-Mk III vehicle configuration is two Solid strap-on boosters Stages (S200), One Liquid Stage (L110) and One Cryogenic Stage (C25). The spacecraft is accommodated in a 5 metre diameter composite payload fairing of 110 cub m volume.

Reusable Launch Vehicle-Technology Demonstrator (RLV-TD)
A winged Reusable Launch Vehicle Technology Demonstrator (RLV-TD) has been configured to act as a flying test bed to evaluate various technologies, viz., hypersonic flight, autonomous landing, powered cruise flight and hypersonic flight using air breathing propulsion towards realising a Two Stage to Orbit (TSTO) fully Reusable Launch Vehicle.

The launch of RLV-TD HEX-01 mission is planned in 2014.

Pre Project activities of Human Space Flight Mission Programme
The objective of Human Spaceflight Programme is to undertake a human spaceflight mission to carry a crew of two to Low Earth Orbit (LEO) and return them safely to a predefined destination on earth. The programme is proposed to be implemented in defined phases. The pre project activities are progressing with a focus on the development of critical technologies for subsystems such as Crew Module (CM), Environmental control and Life Support System (ECLSS), Crew Escape System, etc., and performance demonstration of major systems through Crew Module Atmospheric Re-entry Experiment (CARE) and crew escape system through Pad Abort Test (PAT).

Space Capsule Recovery Experiment (SRE-II)
SRE-2 Project was formed with the main objective of realising a fully recoverable capsule and to provide a platform to conduct microgravity experiments. SRE capsule has four major hardware, namely, Aero Thermo-structure (ATS), Spacecraft platform, Deceleration & Floatation system and Payloads.

ATS base structure has been realised. Six plasma wind tunnel tests were conducted to validate repair scheme of the silica tile. To qualify new elements mounted in the base region of SRE-2, an integrated test of annular deck was successfully completed. Carbon-Carbon cap has been processed as 4D composite through Hot Isostatic Pitch Impregnation and Carbonisation (HIPIC) route. Processing of Carbon-Carbon shell through 2D Pitch Impregnation and Carbonisation route is in progress. Interface design of Carbon-Carbon cap and shell was revisited based on the new thermo-mechanical properties. SiC coated Carbon-Carbon samples have been validated at plasma wind tunnel facility.


Space Science Missions
Chandrayaan-2

Chandrayaan 2, India’s second mission to the Moon, is an advanced version of the previous Chandrayaan-1 mission. It consists of an Orbiter, Lander and Rover configuration. It is planned to be launched as a composite stack into the Earth Parking Orbit (EPO) of 170 X 18,500 km by GSLV-Mk II. The Orbiter carries the combined stack up to moon till the Lunar Orbit Insertion (LOI). The combined stack is then inserted into a lunar orbit of 100 km x 100 km. The Lander is separated from the Orbiter in this orbit.

The Orbiter with scientific payloads will orbit around the moon. The Lander will soft land on the Moon at a specified site and deploy the Rover. The scientific payloads onboard the Orbiter, Lander and Rover are expected to perform mineralogical and elemental studies of the lunar surface.

During 2010, it was agreed that Russian Space Agency ROSCOSMOS would be responsible for lunar Lander and ISRO will be responsible for Orbiter and Rover as well as Launch by GSLV. Later, due to a shift in the programmatic alignment of this mission, it was decided that the Lunar Lander development would be done by ISRO and Chandrayaan-2 will be totally an Indian mission.

ASTROSAT

ASTROSAT is a multi-wavelength astronomy mission aimed at studying the celestial sources and will carry a suite of instruments sensitive over a wide spectral region covering Visible, Ultraviolet, Soft X-ray and Hard X-ray bands. ASTROSAT will be placed in a 650 km near-equatorial orbit using PSLV-XL.

The four X-ray payloads are: Three identical Large Area Xenon-filled Proportional Counters (LAXPC) instrument covering 3-100 keV region, a Cadmium Zinc-Telluride Imager (CZTI) array with coded mask aperture sensitive in 10-100 keV band, a Soft X-ray Imaging Telescope (SXT) using X-ray reflecting mirrors, X-ray CCD for imaging and spectral studies in 0.3 – 8 keV band and a Scanning Sky Monitor (SSM) for detection and monitoring of new and known X-ray sources in 2 – 10 keV region. The UV and Visible bands are covered by an Ultra Violet Imaging Telescope (UVIT) consisting of two identical telescopes, one covering the FUV band (130 – 180 nm) and the second sensitive in NUV (180 – 300 nm) and Visible (350 – 600 nm) bands.

Aditya-1

Aditya-1 is a scientific mission for solar studies. The major scientific objectives of the mission are to achieve a fundamental understanding of the physical processes that heat the solar corona, accelerate the solar wind and produce Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs). It was conceived as a small satellite carrying only a coronagraph as a payload.

In order to get the best science from the Sun, continuous viewing of the Sun is preferred. A Satellite placed in the halo orbit around the L1 Lagrangian point of the Sun-Earth system has the major advantage of continuously viewing the Sun without any occultation/ eclipses. Based on the technical studies, it was found that PSLV-XL developed at ISRO has the capability to launch a satellite which can be placed at a halo orbit around L1 point. The following six proposals have been short-listed for the mission:



And, this is scheduled at max within upto 2020 - not to forget all those collaborative missions and projects planned along with NASA, so believe me, your crappy thread and blog will do jack shit in deterring anyone.

@FaujHistorian...might as well recommend a good
psychiatrist.

he cant even spell ISRO full form correctly, and you talking about so much big words.

I-2k, i-3k, Coronal Mass Injection, RLV-TSTO, cryogenics.
 
BTW, lots of criticization about ISRO, what about SUPARCO.

Can you give some light on that?

you need to catch the flow of the weird.

SUPARCO has failed because Pakistan has failed.
India shouldn't pursue space because India has poor people.

he cant even spell ISRO full form correctly, and you talking about so much big words.

I-2k, i-3k, Coronal Mass Injection, RLV-TSTO, cryogenics.

It wasn't meant for the slow brained, it was meant for the few that might take him seriously.
 
you need to catch the flow of the weird.

SUPARCO has failed because Pakistan has failed.
India shouldn't pursue space because India has poor people.

No, No, I want to hear from him. He criticizing ISRO for doing for more than expected from them, and what about its thought on SUPARCO, which not able to launch a 50 Kg sat in LEO, which can be done in a 6 month time, if they have mind of "juggad" and able to convert Shaheen-2 into SLV.
 
[quote="RiazHaq, post: 6210175, member: 20751"]India is home to the world's largest population of poor, hungry, illiterate and sick people who lack basic sanitation facilities. India's share of the world's poorest has jumped from 22% in 1980 to 33% now.
Does it make sense for India to waste its resources on a space program?


Please look at the following:

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Haq's Musings: India's Share of World's Poorest Jumped From 22% to 33% in 30 Years!

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Haq's Musings: 63 Years After Independence, India Remains Home to World's Largest Population of Poor, Hungry and Illiterates



Sir whats your problem if this illiterate, hungry, sick, people can achieve the capability to send mars mission expending just Rs.4 per head and get success in very fist mission in a journey where only 21 out of 51 attempt succeeded by big country ?
grape is always sour
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With India's population growth greater than poverty reduction rates, the absolute number of poor in India has gone up 5% since 1990.

Excerpt from the Guardian:

" (British minister of international development) Alexander contrasted the rapid growth in China with India's economic success - highlighting government figures that showed the number of poor people had dropped in the one-party communist state by 70% since 1990 but had risen in the world's biggest democracy by 5%"

British minister defends £825m aid to help India's poor | World news | The Guardian

Now, only 22 per cent Indians below poverty line: Planning Commission
ET BureauJul 24, 2013, 04.00AM IST
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NEW DELHI: The number of India's poor fell to less than a quarter of its population in 2011-12, according to a Planning Commission estimate, giving the government a reason to cheer amid the recent raft of disappointing macro economic data.

The commission said on Tuesday the number of those below the poverty line declined to 21.9% of the population in 2011-12, from 29.8% in 2009-10 and 37.2% in 2004-05.

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The estimate, based on a survey of household consumer expenditure, showed rural poverty declined to 25.7% from 41.8% in 2004-05, while in urban areas it fell to 13.7% from 25.7%.

The sharp drop was attributed to the high real growth in recent years, which raised the consumption capacity.

The data showed that nearly 2 crore people were pulled out of poverty every year from 2004-05 onwards, which resulted in a sharp drop in those below the Tendulkar poverty line to 27 crore in 2011-12 from 40.7 crore in 2004-05.

The national level poverty ratio is based on Suresh Tendulkar methodology, which uses the mixed reference period after National Sample Survey Office (NSSO) tabulated expenditure of about 1.2 lakh households across the country.

The national poverty line has been fixed at Rs 816 per capita per month for rural areas and Rs 1,000 for urban areas.

"Thus, for a family of five, the all-India poverty line in terms of consumption expenditure would amount to about 4,080 per month in rural areas and 5,000 per month in urban areas," the Planning Commission said.

The government has set up a committee under C Rangarajan to review the Tendulkar methodology that has been criticised in the past for fixing poverty lines that were too low at 22.42 per person in rural areas and 28.65 in urban areas.

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"Since the data from the NSS (National Sample Survey) 68th round (2011-12) of household consumer expenditure survey is now available, and the Rangarajan committee recommendation will only be available a year later, the Planning Commission has updated the poverty estimates for the year 2011-12 as per the methodology recommended by Tendulkar committee," the Planning Commission said in a release.

The release showed there would still be a decline in the poverty rates from 2004-05 levels even if a method other than the Tendulkar methodology was used to determine the poverty line.

Data from the survey in 2009-10 has not been used for comparison as the year was a drought year. In 2004-05, 37.2% of the country's population was below the poverty line with ratios for rural and urban areas at 41.8% and 25.7%.

The rate of decline was 0.74% per annum during the 11-year period from 1993-94 to 2004-05.

Uttar Pradesh had the highest number of poor people at 598.19 lakh, which is 29.4% of the state's total population followed by Bihar at 358.15 lakh (33.7%), Madhya Pradesh at 234.06 lakh (31.6%), Maharashtra at 197.92 lakh (17.3%) and West Bengal at 184.98 lakh (19.9%).

Prime minister Manmohan Singh had last week highlighted the UPA government's record in poverty reduction, contrasting with the lower fall in the NDA regime and earlier.

"The percentage of population below the poverty line declined at 0.75 percentage points per year before our government came to office in 2004-05. It has fallen more than 2 percentage points per year between 2004-05 and 2011-12," Singh said at an industry association function last week.

Now, only 22 per cent Indians below poverty line: Planning Commission - Economic Times
 
India's future would be much better if it competed for excellence in delivering quality education to its young people who currently rank near the bottom on international assessments like PISA and TIMSS.

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Haq's Musings: PISA & TIMSS Confirm Low Quality of Indian Education

if with that low quality eduacation we can send mars mission then cheers to that....:cheers:
btw what happaned to high IQ mard-e-moims of pakistan..cannat make a simple 50cc moped engine
:rofl::rofl:
BTW, lots of criticization about ISRO, what about SUPARCO.

Can you give some light on that?
its SUPAR(I).CO bro :partay::pakistan:
 
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Life is already hell for poor Indian youth suffering from severe poverty and malnutrition.

India is condemning another generation... - BUDDHISM & BODHISATWA DR.AMBEDKAR | Facebook

I admire your understanding and logical thinking skills... Fabulous and unique....again am saying You are unique fish which swims opposite to the flow... Why don't you bother about Pakistan.. I mean your country is in internal mess... Facing huge threat from militants... And the terrorists targeting your military installation... Lack of proper education and economic growth looking at ground.. People travelling to other countries seeking medical treatment...

On topics... ISRO earning more than it spending... You don't have right to say.. What we should do.. What we don't... Space exploration gives more info about future threats from outer space like asteroids etc... Yes Mars mission makes sense.... You are forgetting one thing... You are from a country... Who says we will eat gross but we will make nuke... Your country spending billion dollars in defence which came from foreign aid... Do you know... We have mid day meals programme to kids.... And state governments giving free education from KG to PG let it be engg or medicine or another..
 

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