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“Ahmadis are Muslims, If They Say They are Muslims and No One, Not Even the Sovereign Legislature, has the Right to Say Otherwise.” – Muhammad Ali Jinnah, 05 May 1944.
“I have been asked a disturbing question, as to who among the Muslims can be a member of the Muslim Conference. It has been asked with particular reference to the Qadianis (Ahmadis). My reply is that, as far as the constitution of the All-India Muslim League is concerned, it stipulates that any Muslim, without distinction of creed or sect, can become a member, provided he accepts the views, policy and programme of the Muslim League, signs the form of membership and pays the subscription. I appeal to the Muslims of Jammu and Kashmir not to raise sectarian questions, but instead to unite on one platform under one banner. In this lies the welfare of the Muslims. In this way, not only can Muslims make political and social progress effectively, but so can other communities, and so also can the state of Kashmir as a whole. What right have I to declare a person non-Muslim, when he claims to be a Muslim.” – Muhammad Ali Jinnah, 23rd May, 1944, Srinagar
Sources:
Tahrik Huriyyat Kashmir (History of Independence Movements in Kashmir), volume 2, 1936 – 1945, page 291)
good for you . no human can live in this hell . wish more bans and totally banned to travel like NK .
Didn't these same fundos even declared MAJ kafir?
That's all I needed to know.So what Jinnah is saying is true
what is the legal status of ahmedis in bangladesh and indonesia (where there was some violence) @Jaanbaz
I have one question. I don't mean to be offensive.
Can an Ahmedi be a Sunni?
You can refrain from answering if you find it inappropriate, in which case let me know, I will apologize and remove this post.
so what do you exist for, what kind of khilafat do you want to establish in Pakistan that your abba/hazur rants about every other day? and do you really think that Ahmediyya cult when in majority anywhere, wont pursue political power? come on.. look at moulana fazlu, he begs for power... if your ahmadiyya cult is strong enough like Fazlu, believe me you are so fanatically religious that your religious leaders would be no less than Fazlu in character !
yeah like rest of them are having feast every day with blondes and red head bitcchess..............acha sorry
If mainstream Muslims consider us Non-Muslims then please do so because all Sects of Islam declare each other as Kafirs anyway. But by having discriminatory laws only takes your nation back.The fire of takfir that Pakistanis started is now engulfing whole of Pakistan. Now Sunni extremists are demanding that Shia too be declared kafirs.
Why should we declare ourselves kafirs? To make you happy? What nation on earth has laws to discriminate people based on sect or religion?
You can disagree with Ahmadis and call us Non-Muslims but a state has no right to interfere with personal beliefs of people. No wonder Pakistan is so messed up, Pakistanis are just not ready to accept that they can ever be wrong.
Bwahahahahahaha........ @ this thread.
Ok... carry on
What others think is of no use and should be of no value for anyone. These people are Pakistani and they have been wronged.
Why should we declare ourselves kafirs? To make you happy? What nation on earth has laws to discriminate people based on sect or religion?
You can disagree with Ahmadis and call us Non-Muslims but a state has no right to interfere with personal beliefs of people. No wonder Pakistan is so messed up, Pakistanis are just not ready to accept that they can ever be wrong.
i got nothing against Ahmedi's & i fully support their right to practice their religion in Pakistan as its their fundamental right, but lets not forget that Ahmedi's are defying the very basic of being Muslim by not accepting Muhammad(PBUH) the last prophet etc...
It is simply because in Pakistan it is stated Ahmadi on your passport as OP already explained (maybe reading the OP will be helpful) however this is prob not the case in other "civilized" countries where they dont write that word on your passport hence you can enter mecca and madina using those passports @Jaanbazcan any pakistani who says ahmedis as non muslims respond to this curious case. I understand there are some minimum critera to call oneself muslim (repeated here many times) but saudis are no fools to allow them. @Leader
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and I feel sorry for these Yinduzzzz as well, no khrishna, no bhagwan, no cow![]()
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